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Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 126	Posted - 2014.03.24 18:01:00 - [1] - Quote At least vs armor. (it should get rof nerf,not really dmg)
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 6089	Posted - 2014.03.24 18:02:00 - [2] - Quote Sniper Rifle needs a ROF nerf? Are you high? The Snack That Smiles Back! "Swarmers" [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Viktor Hadah Jr Critical-Impact 3150	Posted - 2014.03.24 18:03:00 - [3] - Quote . Selling Templar BPO's Last of the BPO's(Click link) I feed off your tears
Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 126	Posted - 2014.03.24 18:04:00 - [4] - Quote Atiim wrote: Sniper Rifle needs a ROF nerf? Are you high? Im talking about Scrambles. Maybe i should write ScR
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1681	Posted - 2014.03.24 18:04:00 - [5] - Quote OP wants SRs to have the same RoF as PCs.
Jax Saurian GunFall Mobilization 182	Posted - 2014.03.24 18:06:00 - [6] - Quote 1.8 list of OPness Tanks Heavies ScR "and when they catch you, they will kill you... ...but first they must catch you" motto of the scouts Closed Beta Vet
Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 126	Posted - 2014.03.24 18:06:00 - [7] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: OP wants SRs to have the same RoF as PCs. ...Thats not my words. And btw they have rof almost like AR. (modded controlers, and fast tapping)
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 6089	Posted - 2014.03.24 18:08:00 - [8] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: Atiim wrote: Sniper Rifle needs a ROF nerf? Are you high? Im talking about Scrambles. Maybe i should write ScR I hope all of the rifles suffer in 1.8 Something that's hit-scan should not have the TTK of a drunkard on an expressway, while being effective at anywhere between 1-100m. The Snack That Smiles Back! "Swarmers" [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Aisha Ctarl Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4126	Posted - 2014.03.24 18:09:00 - [9] - Quote Went 46/6 with the Viziam ScR this morning...umad? I could list the ways how we Amarr are better than you, but your lesser mind wouldn't comprehend it.
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster 1100	Posted - 2014.03.24 18:10:00 - [10] - Quote As much as people armor tank and with the explosion of Gallente and Amarr sentinels we'll likely see on Tuesday, combined with proficiency change to shield damage bonus only, I think you'll see so few ScRs on the battlefield OP you will no longer care. Only hardcore Amaarians like True Adamance are going to be running them with any regularity. The rest of us will only run them occasionally to change things up or if we are facing shield tankers. I know I already pulled the AScR off of my Gal logi fits and replaced them with the ARR in preparation for 1.8 Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.

Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 6089	Posted - 2014.03.24 18:10:00 - [11] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: Went 46/6 with the Viziam ScR this morning...umad? Not mad. Educated. Here's to a non-EZ SCR in 1.8 *Tosses Mej0 a drink* The Snack That Smiles Back! "Swarmers" [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Dauth Jenkins Ultramarine Corp 279	Posted - 2014.03.24 18:10:00 - [12] - Quote Nope, I use my visiam to kill rooftop campers Sees prototompers... Sees blueberries start to snipe... Pulls out commando suit with laser rifle and swarm launcher...
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 11652	Posted - 2014.03.24 18:11:00 - [13] - Quote Jax Saurian wrote: 1.8 list of OPness Tanks Heavies RR/CR, as per 1.7 Fixed. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Zero Harpuia Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 1486	Posted - 2014.03.24 18:11:00 - [14] - Quote The ScR, as a Laser weapon, will suffer quite horribly. With the changes in damage mods and proficiency, getting the Armor damage profile up will be almost impossible if you want an optimal fitting. So will the ScP and LR, all have an 80% damage profile towards Armor. You'll drop their shields, but you're gonna want to have an anti-armor partner or a sure hand with a sidearm to get decently fast kills. The RR will suffer as well, to a lesser extent, as Rail-Tech is the flipside of Laser-Tech. The only reason they suffer less is because most suits outside of Caldari have less shields than armor, and Rail-Tech can make up for the deficiency with absurd range. Shields as Weapons Zelda Dynasty Warriors is a real thing.
THUNDERGROOVE ZionTCD 569	Posted - 2014.03.24 18:11:00 - [15] - Quote ScR is the most balanced weapon in the game. Most people have too much HP to kill before overheating unless you're using a Viziam. Don't be mad because you got alpha'd too many times by someone who is much better than you. Amarr Logi \| Amarr Sentinel Projects: TDBS \| SDETool
Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 126	Posted - 2014.03.24 18:12:00 - [16] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: Went 46/6 with the Viziam ScR this morning...umad? 6deaths? Pretty decent :p
Vell0cet SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1234	Posted - 2014.03.24 18:13:00 - [17] - Quote Overheat will be rough in a higher TTK game. Amarr assault and commandos are likely the only suits that can run them reliably. I'll be running damage mods (even with the nerf) with mine, just to make getting through armor less ridiculous. Best PvE idea ever!
Aisha Ctarl Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4126	Posted - 2014.03.24 18:14:00 - [18] - Quote Atiim wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: Went 46/6 with the Viziam ScR this morning...umad? Not mad. Educated. Here's to a non-EZ SCR in 1.8 *Tosses Mej0 a drink* Well sorry my assault suit has a heat sink built into it making it and the weapon live a happy symbiotic relationship. It amuses me when people say the ScR is EZ MODE...you wanna know what makes it EZ MODE: people standing stark still in the open doing jack s* then b***** about it on the forums. I could list the ways how we Amarr are better than you, but your lesser mind wouldn't comprehend it.
Aisha Ctarl Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4126	Posted - 2014.03.24 18:16:00 - [19] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: Went 46/6 with the Viziam ScR this morning...umad? 6deaths? Pretty decent :p Damned sneaky scout and then a heavy the other times lol I could list the ways how we Amarr are better than you, but your lesser mind wouldn't comprehend it.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 10123	Posted - 2014.03.24 18:17:00 - [20] - Quote Nay, hell nay! Do you know how awful it feels to have a semi-automatic weapon that can't keep up with your trigger finger? I'd much rather get a damage reduction just like all the other racial rifles are getting getting in 1.8 (which the SCR is getting). Damage mods are getting nerfed hard, it already does -20% against armor (so it already suffers against armor) and proficiency changes mean the bonus damage won't apply to armor, so its already getting worse against armor. Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+

Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 11654	Posted - 2014.03.24 18:20:00 - [21] - Quote On a more serious note, the SCR is the hardest hit of the rifles due to the proficiency changes. Armour is going to be exceedingly common and dual tanking will be very prevalent, so you're almost guaranteed to come up against several strong armour tanks a match, especially with the new heavies arriving. So we have: -10% from the direct damage nerf -15% from the proficiency changes - this is a lot more important on the SCR than the other rifles, as it's laser based. -5-15% from the damage mod changes So against armour, you could be looking at 40% less damage. That's disastrous for a weapon that's already very weak against armour, even more so when you consider that the SCR is far worse at sustained damage than any other rifle. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 6090	Posted - 2014.03.24 18:21:00 - [22] - Quote Zero Harpuia wrote: The RR will suffer as well, to a lesser extent, as Rail-Tech is the flipside of Laser-Tech. The only reason they suffer less is because most suits outside of Caldari have less shields than armor, and Rail-Tech can make up for the deficiency with absurd range. Actually, Explosive Weaponry is the "flip side" of Laser Weaponry. Damage Profiles: Laser +20% Shield Damage -20% Armor Damage Explosive +20% Armor Damage -20% Shield Damage Hybrid - Rail +10% Armor Damage -10% Shield Damage Hybrid - Blaster +10% Shield Damage -10% Armor Damage Projectile +10% Armor Damage -5% Shield Damage Projectile weaponry won't suffer too much (5% is nothing), and the Hybrid Weapon users may have a hard time, but they won't have nearly as hard a time as Laser & Projectile weaponry. Though the Laser users really got the short end of the stick on this, because even a STD Flux Grenade can wipe the shields of any dropsuit. I feel kinda bad for ~~them.~~ Laser Rifle users. The Snack That Smiles Back! "Swarmers" [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Smooth Assassin Stardust Incorporation IMMORTAL REGIME 1052	Posted - 2014.03.24 18:22:00 - [23] - Quote Jax Saurian wrote: 1.8 list of OPness Tanks Heavies ScR The ScR fits in nicely. *Assassination is my thing.*
Aisha Ctarl Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4127	Posted - 2014.03.24 18:23:00 - [24] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: On a more serious note, the SCR is the hardest hit of the rifles due to the proficiency changes. Armour is going to be exceedingly common and dual tanking will be very prevalent, so you're almost guaranteed to come up against several strong armour tanks a match, especially with the new heavies arriving. So we have: -10% from the direct damage nerf -15% from the proficiency changes - this is a lot more important on the SCR than the other rifles, as it's laser based. -5-15% from the damage mod changes So against armour, you could be looking at 40% less damage. That's disastrous for a weapon that's already very weak against armour, even more so when you consider that the SCR is far worse at sustained damage than any other rifle. Unfortunately CCP doesn't think like this. I feel that they didn't look at individual weapon numbers and instead simply applied a blanket nerf. I could list the ways how we Amarr are better than you, but your lesser mind wouldn't comprehend it.
GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR Ahrendee Mercenaries 1159	Posted - 2014.03.24 18:24:00 - [25] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: At least vs armor. (it should get rof nerf,not really dmg) no i will make u suffer for saying that. 30 Mil SP VET , TANK / DS PILOT CLICK HERE FOR ACTIVE DUST 514 YOUTUBE VIDEOS
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 11654	Posted - 2014.03.24 18:27:00 - [26] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: Unfortunately CCP doesn't think like this. I feel that they didn't look at individual weapon numbers and instead simply applied a blanket nerf. I suspect some marginal thought was given to it, as it had the lowest damage nerf. But those differences are a few %. I predict the RR/CR will still be king of the rifle class come 1.8. Also... looks at breach assault rifle You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Aisha Ctarl Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4127	Posted - 2014.03.24 18:28:00 - [27] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: Unfortunately CCP doesn't think like this. I feel that they didn't look at individual weapon numbers and instead simply applied a blanket nerf. I suspect some marginal thought was given to it, as it had the lowest damage nerf. But those differences are a few %. I predict the RR/CR will still be king of the rifle class come 1.8. Also... looks at breach assault rifle I predict the CR will actually come out as king with the RR and Magsec closely behind. From there I would say PR, SMG, ScR, ScRP, then LR. I could list the ways how we Amarr are better than you, but your lesser mind wouldn't comprehend it.
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION 1130	Posted - 2014.03.24 18:29:00 - [28] - Quote The scrambler rifle (The charge shot ScR) has needed a RoF nerf for the longest time. Still users of said op weapon (when and only when combined with the Amarr assault suit) will come out to defend it. Look at the dreadful state the TAC AR was left in..... yet you think the ScR rifle is balanced? LMAO b0llocks game. Oh and by the way, the ScR has never been a weapon with sustained dmg.... it has a ridiculous burst damage and because of the level of its burst dmg being so high (Up untill 1.8 the ScR is nigh on par with HMG dps ... at least in bursts) it can kill everything and sustain its damage by being immediately able to move on to the next targets. But lets not single out the ScR. This whole game is f**king broken in terms of balance. What was once an amazing game is slowly but very surely going down the crapper. Investigate 9/11
RendonaSix SWAMPERIUM 24	Posted - 2014.03.24 18:30:00 - [29] - Quote Yeah because scr needs to be nerfed in line with spray and pray trash. I am not Tech.
DESTROYER OF GALAXIES Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 1	Posted - 2014.03.24 18:35:00 - [30] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: Went 46/6 with the Viziam ScR this morning...umad? lol that's it?



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