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Posted - 2014.03.24 17:01:00 -
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I can only think of 2 options, if there is another then I'm just not creative enough right now. (assume all suits are proto level, I'll give the scenario and the 2 resulting options after)
You place an uplink with your amarrlogi. Switch suits at a depot to a callogi. Place several hives with the callogi, then switch again to a Minlogi. What are the equipment values being used?
1) All have same value at the end as when they were placed. This means that the bonus applies to the suit that placed it, not the suit you are currently in.
2) All equipment is behaving as if there is no, and never was a, bonus applied to them. This means that it is based on the suit you are currently wearing. If this is the answer, I also need to know what happens to that equipment if you switch back to a cal/amarrlogi?
I am hoping that it is #1, but worried that it will actually be #2. Any dev or official word would be wonderful. Saw several threads like this, but no official decree in them. I just wanna know before placing that all-important SP tomorrow. |
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Posted - 2014.03.25 01:40:00 -
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THUNDERGROOVE wrote:Pretty certain that it'll be the first.
It'll likely just store what suit you were using as you deploy the equipment and use that to apply the bonus. This would make the most sense as how would it look up what suit you're in if you're dead for example.
Almost my exact thoughts, and since we are dealing with CCP, just wanted to see if this had actually been answered or not yet. |
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Posted - 2014.03.31 16:00:00 -
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Looks like we know now, just wish I coulda gotten confirmation ANYWHERE before release, as I wouldn't haveI dumped a mountain of SP into 3 logi's. Still can suicide to keep active benefit (to my understanding), but that will likely be taken away as well.
I just need to suck it up and deal I guess, CCP must've decided to give me a "Welcome to New Eden". Sucks when it happens, and even more so when I predicted it and saw no response beforehand so went ahead and did it (idiodically thinking that this would be important enough info that they would've included in patch notes and specifically noted this info).
I wasted some SP but I already had 2 proto, the 3rd was my only addition, so I minimized my losses but ~2.5mil SP is a bit much to gather up again to make up for it. |
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Posted - 2014.04.01 04:11:00 -
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Me and a buddy did some testing, here's what we have come up with so far, in the order we did things.
1) While wearing Proto Callogi suit I dropped 1 standalone Ishukone Guaged, 1 Ishukone Guaged + 1 Wyrkomi Triage, and single Wyrkomi Triage.
2) my friend had an SMG they were using, burned through couple hundred rounds then stepped into the standalone hive. (+171 ammo)
3) He repeated action for dual hive and also tested repair. by cooking nades in his hands to guage rate of repair. (+171 ammo, +77 armor**)
4) I switched suits (proto Amlogi, then proto minlogi to same effect) and we repeated the tests after a short period *there is a cooldown on suit effectiveness as I will cover at the end* (+151 ammo, +67 armor**)
5) Switched back to Callogi, all hives returned to pre-switch numbers. (+171 ammo, +77 armor**)
So in summation, your current suit is what bonus you get, regardless of switchout (with a delay*). We are looking into whether the suit that drops it matters, and will require more experimentation, but early tests lead me to believe that the suit that places matters less/none compared to the suit you are currently in.
* When you switch suits, the equipment ability switch is not instantaneous. There is a lag, similar to, and directly corrrelated to the loss of passives when using a hive or switching suits. When the passives started, all bonuses ramped down, or up as mentioned earlier, to their standard level.
**might have been 80, but pretty sure wasn't, and the minimum was also possibly 57-70 but sure the 67 is accurate (science sux when you misplace the paper you wrote it down on)
More testing to come, with actual numbers for hives as well as uplinks. May take awhile on uplinks tho, need several peeps ready to burn through the spawns with worthless alts. |
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Posted - 2014.04.04 15:14:00 -
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haven't forgotten about this. Probably gonna run more tests this weekend, RL and friends availability is an issue. |
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Posted - 2014.04.07 01:46:00 -
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New post with stats can be found Here
Sorry took a bit, hope those of you interested find it useful. |
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