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al nize mk2
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.03.24 15:34:00 -
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and wetting my pants at all the talk of Vet's going full proto and waves of tanks in 1.8
I'm at the 10mSP point, I'm fair to middling to downright laughable - I only have assault and the command respec won't give me sh**. I also missed the event at the weekend.
If you were me - what tactics would you now use?
GÇ£All that I know most surely about morality and obligations I owe to football.GÇ¥
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Onesimus Tarsus
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
1695
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Posted - 2014.03.24 15:36:00 -
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Hide.
And lots of it.
Unless you're just addicted to wetsuit paperdolls...
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al nize mk2
DUST University
Ivy League
49
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Posted - 2014.03.24 15:39:00 -
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Onesimus Tarsus wrote:Hide.
And lots of it.
haha yes that had occurred
GÇ£All that I know most surely about morality and obligations I owe to football.GÇ¥
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M McManus
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Posted - 2014.03.24 15:40:00 -
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Hopefully the new TTK will make it easier on you guys... |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
3434
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Posted - 2014.03.24 15:40:00 -
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Nobody knows how it'll work out until it hits so for now its just talk. Don't judge the release on the first week or two as it'll be chaos and pain. Lots of pain and experimentation.
10 mil SP is plenty to fight other infantry. Just go where the tanks can't go.
Adapt or Die // Republic Lance Commander // @ReesNoturana
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xSivartx
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
35
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Posted - 2014.03.24 15:41:00 -
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Find a couple of blue dots that seem to know what they are doing and follow their lead. |
CaoticFox
Axis of Chaos
200
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Posted - 2014.03.24 15:42:00 -
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M McManus wrote:Hopefully the new TTK will make it easier on you guys...
read it enough to get frustrated... What is TTK?
Im on the FORUMS because im P!$$ED off @ the game.
as of 1920 CST USA 02-03-14 i have...
53,765,260 SP
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Darken-Soul
BIG BAD W0LVES
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
1572
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Posted - 2014.03.24 15:42:00 -
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M McManus wrote:Hopefully the new TTK will make it easier on you guys...
lol. CCP got worked again. This happens when you know nothing about designing shooters.
Who wants some?
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CaoticFox
Axis of Chaos
200
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Posted - 2014.03.24 15:43:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:Nobody knows how it'll work out until it hits so for now its just talk. Don't judge the release on the first week or two as it'll be chaos and pain. Lots of pain and experimentation.
10 mil SP is plenty to fight other infantry. Just go where the tanks can't go.
dont judge by the first week... how about the last 4 months?
Im on the FORUMS because im P!$$ED off @ the game.
as of 1920 CST USA 02-03-14 i have...
53,765,260 SP
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al nize mk2
DUST University
Ivy League
49
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Posted - 2014.03.24 15:44:00 -
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CaoticFox wrote:read it enough to get frustrated... What is TTK?
I believe this means Time To Kill - literally the amount of time it takes to kill an opponent once you engage them/hit them
GÇ£All that I know most surely about morality and obligations I owe to football.GÇ¥
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.03.24 15:45:00 -
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Onesimus Tarsus wrote:Hide.
And lots of it.
Cloak in the corner?
Closed beta vet
Tears, sweet delicious tears
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LittleCuteBunny
381
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Posted - 2014.03.24 15:45:00 -
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You should be more worried about Heavy Dropsuits, because they will be rampant across new eden. Since there will be more Heavy Dropsuits, the amount of forge guns will increase exponentially and tanks will see forges from every direction hit their tank.
Recruiter Link
Retired.
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Lanius Pulvis
Bullet Cluster
205
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Posted - 2014.03.24 15:47:00 -
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I don't know whether you're a shield or armor based assault, but it looks on the surface like the longer TTK might make shield tanking viable (you might actually make it to cover to recharge). I figure I'll try actually being a hit and run flanker again. With almost all my SP in Dropships, I only have a fairly basic Cal Assault though.
Not new, just new to you.
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Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
809
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Posted - 2014.03.24 15:48:00 -
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M McManus wrote:Hopefully the new TTK will make it easier on you guys...
Higher TTK will benefit chars with better gear and higher SP way more then fresh or middle aged chars, so if that brings changes it will be way harder for newer players to bring down proto suits... |
CaoticFox
Axis of Chaos
200
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Posted - 2014.03.24 15:48:00 -
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al nize mk2 wrote:CaoticFox wrote:read it enough to get frustrated... What is TTK? I believe this means Time To Kill - literally the amount of time it takes to kill an opponent once you engage them/hit them
in PC or PUBS? cuz... "I've seen things..." O.o
Im on the FORUMS because im P!$$ED off @ the game.
as of 1920 CST USA 02-03-14 i have...
53,765,260 SP
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al nize mk2
DUST University
Ivy League
49
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Posted - 2014.03.24 15:49:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:Nobody knows how it'll work out until it hits so for now its just talk. Don't judge the release on the first week or two as it'll be chaos and pain. Lots of pain and experimentation.
10 mil SP is plenty to fight other infantry. Just go where the tanks can't go.
I'm sure I'm going to enjoy it - but in all honesty I am feeling a bit cynical about 1.8. Worried it will be a great boost for the already deadly and another kick in the teeth for late starters. Maybe the company have decided if they ain't getting enough new players they should just stroke the long timers instead?
But these are a quivering cowards observations and like you say - the proof will be in playing it, the rest is just talk!
GÇ£All that I know most surely about morality and obligations I owe to football.GÇ¥
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calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
2207
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Posted - 2014.03.24 15:50:00 -
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al nize mk2 wrote:and wetting my pants at all the talk of Vet's going full proto and waves of tanks in 1.8
I'm at the 10mSP point, I'm fair to middling to downright laughable - I only have assault and the command respec won't give me sh**. I also missed the event at the weekend.
If you were me - what tactics would you now use?
let's see....i'd suggest remote explosives but those won't work on heavies in 1.8, guns won't work, soloing won't work, sniping will be ****, av will be ****.
so long story short I suggest you start rail tanking from the red line....or die. |
Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
Dirt Nap Squad.
1441
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Posted - 2014.03.24 15:51:00 -
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al nize mk2 wrote:and wetting my pants at all the talk of Vet's going full proto and waves of tanks in 1.8
I'm at the 10mSP point, I'm fair to middling to downright laughable - I only have assault and the command respec won't give me sh**. I also missed the event at the weekend.
If you were me - what tactics would you now use?
Use Militia suits for the first week. It will suck.
Wait till you see whats strong and effective and what different player groups are using.
Then plan you skill point allocation based on the research..
Make sure your saving all this weeks and next weeks SP for allocation after research is complete. |
al nize mk2
DUST University
Ivy League
49
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Posted - 2014.03.24 15:53:00 -
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Lanius Pulvis wrote:I don't know whether you're a shield or armor based assault, but it looks on the surface like the longer TTK might make shield tanking viable (you might actually make it to cover to recharge). I figure I'll try actually being a hit and run flanker again. With almost all my SP in Dropships, I only have a fairly basic Cal Assault though.
Armour unfortunately - In fact I appear to have skilled into everything that people are saying is now virtually useless (AR, RR, Armour) so my pathetic fears could be well founded..
And just when I thought I was getting to grips with it!
GÇ£All that I know most surely about morality and obligations I owe to football.GÇ¥
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Scar Scrilla
UN1TED NATIONS
170
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Posted - 2014.03.24 15:54:00 -
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al nize mk2 wrote:and wetting my pants at all the talk of Vet's going full proto and waves of tanks in 1.8
I'm at the 10mSP point, I'm fair to middling to downright laughable - I only have assault and the command respec won't give me sh**. I also missed the event at the weekend.
If you were me - what tactics would you now use?
Concentrate on supporting your team with hives, reps and most important of all, uplinks. Nets you a lotta points with a little less risk than just playing assault.
"Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses"
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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
3436
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Posted - 2014.03.24 15:55:00 -
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al nize mk2 wrote:Reav Hannari wrote:Nobody knows how it'll work out until it hits so for now its just talk. Don't judge the release on the first week or two as it'll be chaos and pain. Lots of pain and experimentation.
10 mil SP is plenty to fight other infantry. Just go where the tanks can't go. I'm sure I'm going to enjoy it - but in all honesty I am feeling a bit cynical about 1.8. Worried it will be a great boost for the already deadly and another kick in the teeth for late starters. Maybe the company have decided if they ain't getting enough new players they should just stroke the long timers instead? But these are a quivering cowards observations and like you say - the proof will be in playing it, the rest is just talk!
It'll certainly be interesting. I have some tactical changes I'm going to resurrect to see if they work. Sentinels concern me but popping the flood of slow, sensor blind Commandos will be fun.
Your best bet is to avoid head on engagements.
Adapt or Die // Republic Lance Commander // @ReesNoturana
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
7766
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Posted - 2014.03.24 16:01:00 -
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10 SP isn't actually that bad, you should be fine for the most part in public matches
Amarr Victor
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CommanderBolt
ACME SPECIAL FORCES
RISE of LEGION
1124
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Posted - 2014.03.24 16:03:00 -
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I would strongly suggest remote explosives on a scout suit or something quite fast. Granted this is only really fun in close quarters maps but Remotes do not discriminate. They will blow up 95%+ of proto suits just the same as blowing up new starters.
Investigate 9/11
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al nize mk2
DUST University
Ivy League
49
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Posted - 2014.03.24 16:03:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:
let's see....i'd suggest remote explosives but those won't work on heavies in 1.8, guns won't work, soloing won't work, sniping will be ****, av will be ****.
so long story short I suggest you start rail tanking from the red line....or die.
remotes won't work vs heavies? oh that's bad... remote blasting heavies is one of the games greatest pleasures!
GÇ£All that I know most surely about morality and obligations I owe to football.GÇ¥
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al nize mk2
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.03.24 16:05:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:I would strongly suggest remote explosives on a scout suit or something quite fast. Granted this is only really fun in close quarters maps but Remotes do not discriminate. They will blow up 95%+ of proto suits just the same as blowing up new starters.
Are we carrying fewer remotes like there's going to be fewer grenades?
GÇ£All that I know most surely about morality and obligations I owe to football.GÇ¥
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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
3436
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Posted - 2014.03.24 16:06:00 -
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al nize mk2 wrote:calisk galern wrote:
let's see....i'd suggest remote explosives but those won't work on heavies in 1.8, guns won't work, soloing won't work, sniping will be ****, av will be ****.
so long story short I suggest you start rail tanking from the red line....or die.
remotes won't work vs heavies? oh that's bad... remote blasting heavies is one of the games greatest pleasures!
25% blast resistance? Use another RE. Scouts will have 2 equipment slots so pack a nanohive to make it easier to reload or fit RE to your Logistics.
Adapt or Die // Republic Lance Commander // @ReesNoturana
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Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
2739
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Posted - 2014.03.24 16:08:00 -
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M McManus wrote:Hopefully the new TTK will make it easier on you guys...
How exactly is making us vets even harder to kill going to help someone newer to the game without all his stuff skilled up
I'll start my own war, with hookers, and blackjack!
In fact forget the war and the blackjack.
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al nize mk2
DUST University
Ivy League
49
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Posted - 2014.03.24 16:09:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:al nize mk2 wrote:calisk galern wrote:
let's see....i'd suggest remote explosives but those won't work on heavies in 1.8, guns won't work, soloing won't work, sniping will be ****, av will be ****.
so long story short I suggest you start rail tanking from the red line....or die.
remotes won't work vs heavies? oh that's bad... remote blasting heavies is one of the games greatest pleasures! 25% blast resistance? Use another RE. Scouts will have 2 equipment slots so pack a nanohive to make it easier to reload or fit RE to your Logistics.
Okay so that's making sense. I'm really really frustrated I sent my first character to the recycle as I had skilled all the way into Scout without bothering to check what the hell I was doing. Right now that would actually be really useful.
GÇ£All that I know most surely about morality and obligations I owe to football.GÇ¥
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
1885
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Posted - 2014.03.24 16:12:00 -
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You can do a decent scout fit with that much, I think.
Just get dampning up to 3 and put an enhanced in any scout. Use whatever Rifle or shotgun, militia kincats and whatever shield extender you can fit.
You'll die faster, but might not get scanned as much and it's fun. Hell, in matches where people don't scan at all, you can even do good with the militia light frame, militia modules and militia shotty.
I was running scout with Assault Scrambler Rifle at that time. I don't think I had any biotics or electronics. I think I used 2 militia damage mods, 1 militia kincat, and 1 militia dampner. No sidearm or equipment because I didn't have any cores either. |
Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
Dirt Nap Squad.
1443
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Posted - 2014.03.24 16:12:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:10 SP isn't actually that bad, you should be fine for the most part in public matches
Its pretty bad these days. you need some serious time on DUST to do something with it..
The more I play around with my low SP alt's the more I realize player skill isn't part of equations much anymore... It's skill points + AA and math = winner almost 90% of the time.
Now that End game players will have even more survivability.. The chance for those 10m Toons to drop them are very slight. Or reliant on the end game player complacency or mistakes.
Now Rewind your memory to Chromosome.. Everyone had near maxed skills(towards last few months).. It cost less to max out skills by design then.. You could make a brand new toon and compete with you friends on a Pub using your personal abilities and player skill you acquired playing DUST and other FPS's..
Now? a new toon even in the considered most talented players hands in DUST? Wouldnt' have a chance against a mediocre end game player.
GG AA. |
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