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Hynox Xitio Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 857	Posted - 2014.03.23 23:44:00 - [1] - Quote Laser Rifle Pros: Full Auto might be good in 1.8 More fun to use Better at long range 'Dat Reload animation Cons: Gives me Chromosome flashbacks. Useless up close Higher TTK than Scrambler Rifle Could still suck in 1.8 Lower ammo Scrambler Rifle Pros All the ammo in the world Can one shot Plays like Samus's gun from Metroid Prime Looks cooler Not useless in CQC Cons Generally a scumbag weapon Not as cool of a name Less Range Also if I were to get one of these two, just assume I would by default get proficiency 3-5 DISCUSS! Unleash the Fogwoggler
Rusty Shallows 1209	Posted - 2014.03.23 23:50:00 - [2] - Quote It is those two weapons that has me mildly interesting in the Amar Commando. Here, have some candy and a Like. :-) Forums > Game
Delanus Turgias Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 326	Posted - 2014.03.23 23:53:00 - [3] - Quote Go Amarr Assault if you plan to use either. I personally prefer ScR, since you get a CQC assault version and a ranged tactical version from the same skill, while the Laser kinda locks you into a fairly narrow engagement range. This may change with the upcoming laser buffs, but I'd hold off for now and see when the patch drops. Closed Beta Vet since May, 2012 TEST Alliance Best Alliance Proud owner of essentially every BPO in Dust
Hynox Xitio Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 857	Posted - 2014.03.23 23:55:00 - [4] - Quote Delanus Turgias wrote: Go Amarr Assault if you plan to use either. I personally prefer ScR, since you get a CQC assault version and a ranged tactical version from the same skill, while the Laser kinda locks you into a fairly narrow engagement range. This may change with the upcoming laser buffs, but I'd hold off for now and see when the patch drops. lolI'maheavy. Unleash the Fogwoggler
Greasepalms Ahrendee Mercenaries 508	Posted - 2014.03.23 23:58:00 - [5] - Quote "Generally a scumbag weapon" Bah! I will hunt you down myself if you tinge the Imperial Rifle with your foul words ever again.
Delanus Turgias Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 326	Posted - 2014.03.23 23:58:00 - [6] - Quote Hynox Xitio wrote: Delanus Turgias wrote: Go Amarr Assault if you plan to use either. I personally prefer ScR, since you get a CQC assault version and a ranged tactical version from the same skill, while the Laser kinda locks you into a fairly narrow engagement range. This may change with the upcoming laser buffs, but I'd hold off for now and see when the patch drops. lolI'maheavy. You are scum of the earth if you plan to use either of these on the Sentinel. On a Commando, it just isn't worth it since the 10% Damage bonus is not as useful as 25% more damage before overheat. You can do more damage, but you can't shoot as much. If you aren't using it on Amarr Commando or Amarr Assault, you're insane. Closed Beta Vet since May, 2012 TEST Alliance Best Alliance Proud owner of essentially every BPO in Dust
Scheneighnay McBob Endless Hatred Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 4479	Posted - 2014.03.24 00:04:00 - [7] - Quote Depends on how you're playing. Lasers always were a good area-denial weapon. Saw someone else using a laser rifle today. Unfortunately, said person was a blueberry in Caldari FW, and was firing it from about 10m at a protobear with aim assist wielding a breach AR I am your scan error.
Hynox Xitio Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 858	Posted - 2014.03.24 00:08:00 - [8] - Quote Delanus Turgias wrote: You are scum of the earth if you plan to use either of these on the Sentinel. On a Commando, it just isn't worth it since the 10% Damage bonus is not as useful as 25% more damage before overheat. You can do more damage, but you can't shoot as much. If you aren't using it on Amarr Commando or Amarr Assault, you're insane. Wait, I can't use them on my proto sentinel? Unleash the Fogwoggler
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8697	Posted - 2014.03.24 00:16:00 - [9] - Quote Hynox Xitio wrote: Laser Rifle Pros: Full Auto might be good in 1.8 More fun to use Better at long range 'Dat Reload animation Cons: Gives me Chromosome flashbacks. Useless up close Higher TTK than Scrambler Rifle Could still suck in 1.8 Lower ammo Scrambler Rifle Pros All the ammo in the world Can one shot Plays like Samus's gun from Metroid Prime Looks cooler Not useless in CQC Cons Generally a scumbag weapon Not as cool of a name Less Range Also if I were to get one of these two, just assume I would by default get proficiency 3-5 DISCUSS! Edit: I'm serious, this is what Chromosome looked like. Both simple as that. If you aren't Amarr you are a heathen.... if you are a heathen..... you will be punished lest you repent. "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
Delanus Turgias Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 331	Posted - 2014.03.24 00:22:00 - [10] - Quote Hynox Xitio wrote: Delanus Turgias wrote: You are scum of the earth if you plan to use either of these on the Sentinel. On a Commando, it just isn't worth it since the 10% Damage bonus is not as useful as 25% more damage before overheat. You can do more damage, but you can't shoot as much. If you aren't using it on Amarr Commando or Amarr Assault, you're insane. Wait, I can't use them on my proto sentinel? You sick bastard. Please never use photobucket again, we have Imgur now, which doesn't have an insane amount of ads and loads relatively fast. This isn't 2004. Closed Beta Vet since May, 2012 TEST Alliance Best Alliance Proud owner of essentially every BPO in Dust

Hynox Xitio Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 859	Posted - 2014.03.24 00:23:00 - [11] - Quote Delanus Turgias wrote: You sick bastard. Please never use photobucket again, we have Imgur now, which doesn't have an insane amount of ads and loads relatively fast. This isn't 2004. I know :) Unleash the Fogwoggler
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3665	Posted - 2014.03.24 00:46:00 - [12] - Quote Delanus Turgias wrote: Go Amarr Assault if you plan to use either. I personally prefer ScR, since you get a CQC assault version and a ranged tactical version from the same skill, while the Laser kinda locks you into a fairly narrow engagement range. This may change with the upcoming laser buffs, but I'd hold off for now and see when the patch drops. That narrow engagement range is more familiarly known as the distance at which a space station can be confused for a moon. No.
Louis Domi Pradox One Proficiency V. 87	Posted - 2014.03.24 01:08:00 - [13] - Quote Hynox Xitio wrote: Laser Rifle Pros: Full Auto might be good in 1.8 More fun to use Better at long range 'Dat Reload animation Cons: Gives me Chromosome flashbacks. Useless up close Higher TTK than Scrambler Rifle Could still suck in 1.8 Lower ammo Scrambler Rifle Pros All the ammo in the world Can one shot Plays like Samus's gun from Metroid Prime Looks cooler Not useless in CQC Cons Generally a scumbag weapon Not as cool of a name Less Range Also if I were to get one of these two, just assume I would by default get proficiency 3-5 DISCUSS! Edit: I'm serious, this is what Chromosome looked like. Laser rifle never sucked... Its just not as effective as other weapons, i specced into it a while ago, the only reason i stopped using it was the feedback damage and that i already had scramblers at prof 4... I might use it tomorrow just to show that its still good pre buff
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 1876	Posted - 2014.03.24 01:14:00 - [14] - Quote Plasma Cannon This weapon is crazy OP. It's also Gallente.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8702	Posted - 2014.03.24 01:15:00 - [15] - Quote Louis Domi wrote: Hynox Xitio wrote: Laser Rifle Pros: Full Auto might be good in 1.8 More fun to use Better at long range 'Dat Reload animation Cons: Gives me Chromosome flashbacks. Useless up close Higher TTK than Scrambler Rifle Could still suck in 1.8 Lower ammo Scrambler Rifle Pros All the ammo in the world Can one shot Plays like Samus's gun from Metroid Prime Looks cooler Not useless in CQC Cons Generally a scumbag weapon Not as cool of a name Less Range Also if I were to get one of these two, just assume I would by default get proficiency 3-5 DISCUSS! Edit: I'm serious, this is what Chromosome looked like. Laser rifle never sucked... Its just not as effective as other weapons, i specced into it a while ago, the only reason i stopped using it was the feedback damage and that i already had scramblers at prof 4... I might use it tomorrow just to show that its still good pre buff You are right. The laser is a fantastic long range weapon. "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
Mauren NOON The Exemplars Top Men. 296	Posted - 2014.03.24 02:36:00 - [16] - Quote Hynox Xitio wrote: Laser Rifle Pros: Full Auto might be good in 1.8 More fun to use Better at long range 'Dat Reload animation Cons: Gives me Chromosome flashbacks. Useless up close Higher TTK than Scrambler Rifle Could still suck in 1.8 Lower ammo Scrambler Rifle Pros All the ammo in the world Can one shot Plays like Samus's gun from Metroid Prime Looks cooler Not useless in CQC Cons Generally a scumbag weapon Not as cool of a name Less Range Also if I were to get one of these two, just assume I would by default get proficiency 3-5 DISCUSS! Edit: I'm serious, this is what Chromosome looked like. Both :D proto amarr commando Scr and commando enthusiast. A commando is not just a suit, but a way of life... "The only thing to fear is fear itself"
Tectonic Fusion 1288	Posted - 2014.03.24 02:37:00 - [17] - Quote I'll use the laser a lot more. Solo Player Squad status: Locked
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 2478	Posted - 2014.03.24 02:39:00 - [18] - Quote Laz0rz!!1!!!1!!!!11!!1 (fun>all. Plus, my God the Templar LR is a freaking work of art!) "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.2 Amarr victor!
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8721	Posted - 2014.03.24 02:41:00 - [19] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: Laz0rz!!1!!!1!!!!11!!1 (fun>all. Plus, my God the Templar LR is a freaking work of art!) The red onez go fasta! "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
Yeeeuuuupppp 173	Posted - 2014.03.24 03:04:00 - [20] - Quote Both. CCP Saberwing: " War elephants for 1.9" I really want the templar set Feel the wrath of my troll

Hynox Xitio Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 865	Posted - 2014.03.24 03:13:00 - [21] - Quote Yeeeuuuupppp wrote: Both. +1'd for my war elephants/dinosaur post. Unleash the Fogwoggler
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1449	Posted - 2014.03.24 03:18:00 - [22] - Quote LaiZorzs Monday: kalakiota rail rifle spam and RR folks saying its balanced...lol. Tuesday: 1.8 sees rail rifle users from Monday and says remember me?? ZZZZZZZZZZZTTTTZZZZ...+50 +50 Gets mail from rail rifle users....LOL!! Looks foreward to rail rifle users on forums: WHAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!! my rifle no workz!! Hey CCP get a PS4 client Planetside 2 in June on PS4 Dust Deserters Alliance
Nevyn Tazinas Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2014.03.24 03:23:00 - [23] - Quote True Adamance wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: Laz0rz!!1!!!1!!!!11!!1 (fun>all. Plus, my God the Templar LR is a freaking work of art!) The red onez go fasta! I use it on my Templar Logi suit, mainly because it looks pretty. Though I've actually gotten decent with it. People will often ignore it to start with as initial damage is low, but if they take it lightly and ignore it, the damage ramp up catches them by surprise as they suddenly explode near the end of your burst. It's not exactly a great weapon overall though. 66m is the closest you can get currently before you start loosing efficiency. Will be interesting to see how far they drop that in 1.8 or if they have simply removed it utterly.
Vell0cet SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1232	Posted - 2014.03.24 04:44:00 - [24] - Quote Scrambler is versatile, requires good aim and smart timing. It is excellent in 1v1, but you could run into problems with multiple opponents. Overheating in the middle of a gunfight is typically a death sentence. This weapon should do well in the pop-in-and-out-of-cover style gunfights that are likely to be common in longer TTK gameplay due to the high alpha potential of the charged shot. Laser may or may not be viable in 1.8. If it can't consistently beat the RR at the edge of the LR's range it won't be worth using. If the 110 effective range is sufficient to do this, it will be viable. Be advised that the LR is like walking around the map with a giant "gank me" arrow pointing right at your location. Cloaked scouts will eat you for breakfast. If you position yourself well, you can put up a wall of light that will cook any enemies that try to break through. You will need to sit on a nanohive, because you'll be chewing through ammo. These should be a good counter to heavy spam, assuming you can get them out in the open. The huge penalty against armor is tough for both laser weapons. This is a case where stacking damage mods may be worth it (even with the reduced effectiveness) since it's the only way to improve your DPS vs. armor. Best PvE idea ever!


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