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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.03.23 02:30:00 -
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i think yes. In addition to sprint charging for 1.5 seconds, they need 0 fitting reqs, and slightly higher damage with a wider slash arc
Kills-Archduke Ferdinand
Balance!
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Tectonic Fusion
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Posted - 2014.03.23 02:42:00 -
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Only the militia ones. Munch.
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Nocturnal Soul
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.23 02:44:00 -
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For a weapon that conducts electricity and can 1 hit KO just about any suit? I think not.
Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
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Vapor Forseti
THE-TITANS
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Posted - 2014.03.23 02:44:00 -
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>Slightly higher damage
lol.
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.03.23 02:46:00 -
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oh are nova knives OP now? lol sorry i guess they are
Kills-Archduke Ferdinand
Balance!
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Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.03.23 03:02:00 -
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:oh are nova knives OP now? lol sorry i guess they are
They aren't exactly UP either.
Fairly well balanced actually, just a bit harder to use, and that difficulty is rewarded with the ability to OHK almost any suit.
Fizzer94 // Forum Warrior Operation II // MAG Vet
Gallente Neutron Rifle
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Roy Ventus
Axis of Chaos
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Posted - 2014.03.23 03:05:00 -
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Troll is obvious
0 Fitting Requirement for the ONE weapon that doesn't operate on the resistance logic table.
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Patrlck 56
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Posted - 2014.03.23 03:14:00 -
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Zero? So it's like having no weapon fitted, except you do.
I can already hear the QQ....
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.23 03:15:00 -
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No more "charged" shots and you can keep your 0 fitting requirement.
Until that happens, no. |
Denn Maell
PIanet Express
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
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Posted - 2014.03.23 04:01:00 -
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Nova Knives are a technologically advanced melee weapon (Like the Gallente ShotgunGǪ) so no, there is no reason they should have 0 fitting requirements.
Minmatar Ballistic Knives on the other handGǪlets just say I see an argument could be made there.
The most OP weapon on the Dust Battle Field:
One good logi, one rep tool, and a heavy.
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Tupni
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.03.23 04:19:00 -
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>Grenades taking CPU/PG
>Equipment designed to function independently of a suit needing CPU/PG
>Twin blades that use some kind of, perhaps electrical, charge that deals more damage than most guns yet seemingly lack an internal power source needing to at all rely on the suit for PG/CPU
>Anything needing CPU/PG
It's all just a bunch of meta level BS to fabricate difficulty and the illusion of growth man. |
Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.03.23 04:28:00 -
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Tupni wrote:>Grenades taking CPU/PG
>Equipment designed to function independently of a suit needing CPU/PG
>Twin blades that use some kind of, perhaps electrical, charge that deals more damage than most guns yet seemingly lack an internal power source needing to at all rely on the suit for PG/CPU
>Anything needing CPU/PG
It's all just a bunch of meta level BS to fabricate difficulty and the illusion of growth man.
Or, you know, actual choices. "Hmm, I could put in a Prototype Weapon but then I will be short on PG/CPU and not be able to use a Sidearm/Grenades." |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.03.23 04:30:00 -
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If any knife should be zero fitting it should be the minmatar one (unless its rocket powered)
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LUGMOS
YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE
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Posted - 2014.03.23 05:51:00 -
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Tupni wrote:>Grenades taking CPU/PG
>Equipment designed to function independently of a suit needing CPU/PG
>Twin blades that use some kind of, perhaps electrical, charge that deals more damage than most guns yet seemingly lack an internal power source needing to at all rely on the suit for PG/CPU
>Anything needing CPU/PG
It's all just a bunch of meta level BS to fabricate difficulty and the illusion of growth man.
'Tis plasma, not electricity. Check description.
The biggest threat to my scout is everything.
There is no them, only us.
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axINVICTUSxa
BIG BAD W0LVES
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
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Posted - 2014.03.23 05:54:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:Tupni wrote:>Grenades taking CPU/PG
>Equipment designed to function independently of a suit needing CPU/PG
>Twin blades that use some kind of, perhaps electrical, charge that deals more damage than most guns yet seemingly lack an internal power source needing to at all rely on the suit for PG/CPU
>Anything needing CPU/PG
It's all just a bunch of meta level BS to fabricate difficulty and the illusion of growth man. 'Tis plasma, not electricity. Check description.
WELL...comrade Lugmos I do believe Plasma is produced through high amounts of electricity? If I am wrong please correct me...
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axINVICTUSxa
BIG BAD W0LVES
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
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Posted - 2014.03.23 05:55:00 -
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Denn Maell wrote:Nova Knives are a technologically advanced melee weapon (Like the Gallente ShotgunGǪ) so no, there is no reason they should have 0 fitting requirements. Minmatar Ballistic Knives on the other handGǪlets just say I see an argument could be made there.
Minmatar get BALLISTIC KNIVES?!???
Spetsnaz time!
Magsec SMG (supp) and Nova Knives leggo!!!!
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.23 06:13:00 -
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why does everyone seem to be assuming the nova knives are electric
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Sana Rayya
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.03.23 11:11:00 -
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SInce they have no PG reduction skill I'd like to see them with a lower PG number, like the flaylock or the plasma cannon. |
straya fox
Sad Panda Solutions
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Posted - 2014.03.23 11:21:00 -
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While we are at it may as well have no fitting requirements for the Kaali RR. |
Medic 1879
Forsaken Immortals
Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.03.23 11:21:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:If any knife should be zero fitting it should be the minmatar one (unless its rocket powered)
I always pictured the Minmatar ones being "throwing knives" however in true Min fashion the method of getting them back with science! is tying a bit of string to them before throwing.
Edit or lacking string they should be like this
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KalOfTheRathi
Nec Tributis
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Posted - 2014.03.23 11:23:00 -
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Nothing in Dust514 should have 0 fitting requirements.
Everything costs. SP, ISK, LP or AUR all Mercs have to pay. Otherwise it wouldn't be free to play. 
And so it goes.
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Lightning Bolt2
Binary Mercs
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Posted - 2014.03.23 21:53:00 -
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:i think yes. In addition to sprint charging for 1.5 seconds, they need 0 fitting reqs, and slightly higher damage with a wider slash arc
lol? as a scout knifer I feel they should take some kind of fitting requirement, so it isn't just a way to fill that sidearm slot as a brick tanked assault.
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Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
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Posted - 2014.03.24 02:01:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:Tupni wrote:>Grenades taking CPU/PG
>Equipment designed to function independently of a suit needing CPU/PG
>Twin blades that use some kind of, perhaps electrical, charge that deals more damage than most guns yet seemingly lack an internal power source needing to at all rely on the suit for PG/CPU
>Anything needing CPU/PG
It's all just a bunch of meta level BS to fabricate difficulty and the illusion of growth man. 'Tis plasma, not electricity. Check description.
Uh. Electricity is needed to make plasma in most cases.
Unless the knife is being swung so fast that it is being ionized by friction as it passes through the atmosphere, I would say it uses electricity. Probably conducted from the fusion reactor, through the palms of the dropsuit, and into the knife.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.03.24 02:09:00 -
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As an expert ninja knifer, yes they need CPU and PG requirements. These are not prison shanks. They are electronic cutting machines that utilize plasma of some form to assist in cutting down even heavies. To want to make them have no fitting requirements is just being needy.
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.03.24 02:11:00 -
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good points everyone--what about lower pg reqs so that it easily fits on the minmitar scout? (who was designed to use it)
Kills-Archduke Ferdinand
Balance!
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2014.03.24 02:28:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:why does everyone seem to be assuming the nova knives are electric
They super heat the edge with plasma. I looked into it a couple of days ago because I figured being a Temple Knight at our orders Temple of Amarr Atash I should probably have some kind of ceremonial weapon for time when I am not touring the combat zones.
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Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.24 08:59:00 -
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:i think yes. In addition to sprint charging for 1.5 seconds, they need 0 fitting reqs, and slightly higher damage with a wider slash arc
Or they could be just built in in scout suits.... |
Alena Ventrallis
The Neutral Zone
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Posted - 2014.03.24 09:44:00 -
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They need to hold charge while sprinting, and they'll be good.
Best PVE idea I've seen.
Fixed link.
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Master Smurf
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2014.03.24 17:01:00 -
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Only thing wrong (stat-wise) with knives are basics dont do enough damage
Mechanics-wise: FOV issues and the ability of enemies to pass through you instead of occupying a physical space as your allies do.
OP, hopefully Minmatar knives will be out soon with reduced PG. I expect them to be like the Flaylock or lower than the SMG at adv and proto levels
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.03.24 17:57:00 -
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A good alternative is to introduce the rest of the racial knives. Currently we only have one race represented. Caldari nova knives.
The only weapons I can see that probably wouldn't require any CPU or PG is either the Amarr gladius or the Minmatar prison shank. But each knife will need to have its own style and mechanics to compensate.
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
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