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VECTORS ABROAD FACTION WARFARE ARMY FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE 0	Posted - 2014.03.22 02:58:00 - [1] - Quote I have thought a lot about BPO's were influential to the game. It saves the user a lot of isk for later fights. All of them are pre made and are not exactly comfortable to the user. I think that there should be something where you could pay 30,000-100,000 aurum to make the users fit a bpo fit so it never runs out. I mean that the fit they have built would become like a prebuilt fit so it doesn't run out. I think it would be a good reason to buy aurum. Please leave any comments or suggest alternative ideas thanks.
tander09 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 57	Posted - 2014.03.22 05:08:00 - [2] - Quote make it 1,000,000-10,000,000 aurum, no scrubs shall not have a BPO fit! Touch my BPO Gear, and you shall perish in the thrusters of a AMARR TITAN!!!!!!! AMARRIAN4LYFE!
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2795	Posted - 2014.03.22 06:45:00 - [3] - Quote Couldn't we just sublet out lease on the BPOs? I'll rent my BPOs for 5 million a month. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Baltazar Pontain Phantom Universe Task Force Die Fremdenlegion 98	Posted - 2014.03.22 07:28:00 - [4] - Quote I would invest a lot of aurum to fetch some BPO. In the past I spend already a great amount of money to get all BPO's in game. I am no fan of the current transaction model. I will never ever buy stuff for a battle that I can lose in blink of a second. Even if a rifle would only cost 1 aurum. I will never. The only stuff I would buy (if I would not be so pissed about Tank514 and other stuff) would be a passive booster. But back to the topic: CCP if you want make money introduce BPO's again. Make them expensive no problem, but that would be something I will buy. Not this **** you offer at the moment.
medomai grey WarRavens League of Infamy 457	Posted - 2014.03.22 09:47:00 - [5] - Quote Current way BPOs function would negatively impact the free market whenever CCP decides to finish it. Infinite supply of goods kind of ruins the whole supply and demand model. In order for BPOs to get reintroduced to the market, CCP has to change the mechanics of BPOs. My personal favorite solution is to have BPOs generate a set amount of stuff over time with a maximum limit of stuff your allowed to store. Vetors, what you propose does not address the issue mentioned above and would ** off BPO holders due to the loss of flexibility in how they can use their BPOs. But yes, bringing back BPOs, a paint bucket system, or etc. would increase aurum sales. I've been told that people prefer fake smiles over the honest expressions of their fellow men. : )**
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 1073	Posted - 2014.03.22 11:05:00 - [6] - Quote I do believe there is a problem with changing bpo's which were bought using real money (not aur) because lawsuits or something. Join the Channel - CPM1 Candidates - Get to know who's running. Delt for CPM1
Xaviah Reaper Nyain San 287	Posted - 2014.03.22 11:26:00 - [7] - Quote VECTORS ABROAD wrote: I have thought a lot about BPO's were influential to the game. It saves the user a lot of isk for later fights. All of them are pre made and are not exactly comfortable to the user. I think that there should be something where you could pay 30,000-100,000 aurum to make the users fit a bpo fit so it never runs out. I mean that the fit they have built would become like a prebuilt fit so it doesn't run out. I think it would be a good reason to buy aurum. Please leave any comments or suggest alternative ideas thanks. things wrong with this idea.. BPOs ruin the ingame economy (when its released) BPOs are seen as pay to win because isk is not an issue Making a BPO of whatever you want is just.... no BPOs should never have been introduced and will not be reintroduced Best game with a Python: 33kills 1 death (1.6) 24kills 1 death (1.7)
Ivy Zalinto Bobbit's Hangmen 338	Posted - 2014.03.22 16:33:00 - [8] - Quote Bpo's are available on eve for nearly every type of ship and the economy is fine there. Though they do work in slightly different ways, the balance is that in this you die significantly more. Dont change bpo's but introduce more for basic level equipment would be fine I think. Basic suits only save 3k per fitting. Even if I die a thousand times, big deal. Its my money to spend on a permanent suit. Dedicated Stealth Scout. Scout instructor; Learning Coalition Sidearms are terribly underestimated.
Joey-Number1 Maniacal Miners INC No Safe Haven 72	Posted - 2014.03.22 16:46:00 - [9] - Quote BPOs will soon not be usable as items I think, they are supposed to be blueprints to manufacture items from. They are just schematics in the end.
KA24DERT TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 539	Posted - 2014.03.22 16:55:00 - [10] - Quote Dust BPOs will go away eventually and be replaced with Eve BPOs, and CCP is going to have to offer AUR refunds and figure out ways to deal with the upset customers. The idea was terrible to begin with and is a hinderance to the integration of Eve and Dust.

Artificer Ghost Learning Coalition College 1307	Posted - 2014.03.22 16:58:00 - [11] - Quote Ivy Zalinto wrote: Bpo's are available on eve for nearly every type of ship and the economy is fine there. Though they do work in slightly different ways, the balance is that in this you die significantly more. Dont change bpo's but introduce more for basic level equipment would be fine I think. Basic suits only save 3k per fitting. Even if I die a thousand times, big deal. Its my money to spend on a permanent suit. The fact that you said BPOs are in EVE and work in 'slightly' different ways annoys me. I'm sorry, but it does. I could give an explanation, but it wouldn't be 100% reliable as I wasn't an Industry nut. I was an explorer and on the side, a Rohk nuke, and a Megathron Logi. The TL;DR was that you can actually lose money using EVE BPOs, and they're infinitely more expensive. ~Art, CEO and DoE at Learning Coalition College, Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition Maken Tosch = 1000th Like!
J'Hiera Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 59	Posted - 2014.03.22 20:15:00 - [12] - Quote With EVEs paintjobs, Im pretty sure they will be turned into never expiring paint jobs you apply to a suit of the same value. While BPOs will be reintroduced as schematics for production instead.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7588	Posted - 2014.03.22 20:42:00 - [13] - Quote Artificer Ghost wrote: Ivy Zalinto wrote: Bpo's are available on eve for nearly every type of ship and the economy is fine there. Though they do work in slightly different ways, the balance is that in this you die significantly more. Dont change bpo's but introduce more for basic level equipment would be fine I think. Basic suits only save 3k per fitting. Even if I die a thousand times, big deal. Its my money to spend on a permanent suit. The fact that you said BPOs are in EVE and work in 'slightly' different ways annoys me. I'm sorry, but it does. I could give an explanation, but it wouldn't be 100% reliable as I wasn't an Industry nut. I was an explorer and on the side, a Rohk nuke, and a Megathron Logi. The TL;DR was that you can actually lose money using EVE BPOs, and they're infinitely more expensive. I have to agree. I have dabbled in manufacturing, mining, and other parts of the industrial side of Eve Online. To state that the BPOs in Eve Online are "slightly" different from the BPOs in Dust is a gross mistake at best. In Eve Online, a BPO costs only ISK which is usually purchased straight from the NPC corp. Some NPCs however only sell certain originals in null-sec regions of space. After that you can trade it for ISK with another player at another system or you can use it to manufacture things. If you choose to manufacture with it, you have to spend time and ISK gathering the materials needed for production. During that time you have to research the BPOs so they can be less resource intensive which also takes time (as in days or weeks). And if you really want to maximize your efficiency, you'll need to build up your standings with the NPC corp that owns the station you're going to manufacture in which requires you to grind through a lot of missions. Even after all that you then have to account for the production fees and available slots. If you don't own your own POS tower, you'll find yourself waiting in queue for the next available slot if you're in a busy system. You can find empty slots in more remote systems but you'll have to haul that stuff to the main hubs if you want to most profit and even then you have to watch out for suicide gankers if you're carrying expensive cargo. Now let's compare that to Dust's BPOs. In Dust, a BPO is an AUR item. It doesn't require any production fees, no minerals to produce, and it creates an infinite supply of said item at no further cost which practically undermines industry in general. That's it. Eve and Dust BPOs are no where near similar and are vastly different. Due to the above comparison, Dust BPOs are a threat to the industry aspect of Dust should industry ever be introduced. That said, I don't see CCP bringing them back into the NPC primary market. They are now just collectibles. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
General12912 Gallente Marine Corps 133	Posted - 2014.03.22 20:45:00 - [14] - Quote Ivy Zalinto wrote: Bpo's are available on eve for nearly every type of ship and the economy is fine there. Though they do work in slightly different ways, the balance is that in this you die significantly more. Dont change bpo's but introduce more for basic level equipment would be fine I think. Basic suits only save 3k per fitting. Even if I die a thousand times, big deal. Its my money to spend on a permanent suit. only saves 3k??? a lot more than that. my 'shock assault' duplicate i made with the dragonfly assault, toxin AR and toxin smg only costs me about 5k per suit. because im only paying for the equipment. my assault G-1 with toxin AR/smg costs me 11k. over twice as much, and the ony ly bpo i dont use in that one is, obviously, the dragon assault. and its possible to make infinite fits that are basically starter fits, given you have enough BPOs. Assault Gk.0 Gallente Federation Patriot General of the Gallente Marine Corps. Look us up if you want to join.
neolutumus The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 2	Posted - 2014.03.22 22:17:00 - [15] - Quote I think the only bpo's allowed at this time should be the "special" bpo's already put out, and "militia" bpo sets (ie a sniper set, or a medic set, etc, where the entire fit is militia on a "free" suit (ie of the race you chose when you started). I think that asking 20k aurum for one set would be ok, and not affect any industrial activities in the future.
Slen Kaleth BlackWater Liquidations INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 118	Posted - 2014.03.22 23:16:00 - [16] - Quote I think BPOs should simple reduce the cost of a suit, not provide it for free. That would simulate the material/install cost.


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