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KalOfTheRathi
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Posted - 2014.03.22 01:44:00 -
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Want to guess what the announcements are going to be focused on during Fan Fest?
I am not willing to take any bets against EVE VR
http://www.polygon.com/2014/3/21/5531820/eve-valkyrie-is-a-rift-exclusive-a-playstation-4-exclusive-and-an
Pretty clear that the big bet will be EVE VR and they will include similar limitations to play styles that they are forcing on Dust514. Single player will be an option but CCP believes that griefing is much easier when regular EVE players can gun you down, shoot you in the back or scan New Berries. Thus multiplayer will be where the real focus is. More likely single player or PvE will never be delivered, just like in Dust514.
And so it goes.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
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Posted - 2014.03.22 02:29:00 -
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How many devs does DUST have?
Like ten or something?
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Defy Gravity
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Posted - 2014.03.22 02:40:00 -
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What really upsets me is how they put resources toward BULL **** !!!! Fix Dust before you make another broken game  Eve VR looks like s-h-i-t anyways
Edit: I just watched the new gameplay trailer the new one and it looks even more like s-h-i-t.
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Posted - 2014.03.22 02:50:00 -
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Defy Gravity wrote:What really upsets me is how they put resources toward BULL **** !!!! Fix Dust before you make another broken game Eve VR looks like s-h-i-t anyways Edit: I just watched the new gameplay trailer the new one and it looks even more like s-h-i-t.
Ha, I don't really care for your opinion, just wanted to point out that's exactly what most eve players have been saying about dust. |
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Posted - 2014.03.22 02:59:00 -
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Defy Gravity wrote:What really upsets me is how they put resources toward BULL **** !!!! Fix Dust before you make another broken game Eve VR looks like s-h-i-t anyways Edit: I just watched the new gameplay trailer the new one and it looks even more like s-h-i-t.
EVE players said this about dust I am pretty sure..
Edit: beaten to it haha
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Godin Thekiller
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Posted - 2014.03.22 03:22:00 -
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Why EVR? Valkyrie seems cooler to talk about; hell, they even jump started on the lore already for it......
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Raylon Mortien
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Posted - 2014.03.22 03:35:00 -
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the pictures make it look like they fitted tiny TV's to headsets..... underwhelming yet again...
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dent 308
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Posted - 2014.03.22 04:09:00 -
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Valkyrie looks like a pile of fun. VR fighter combat in space, great. Getting huge turnout everywhere they setup gear to demo it.
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Posted - 2014.03.22 04:09:00 -
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Does this mean they might announce dust 514 for the ps4 as well? Considering they are now developing for it...
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Hynox Xitio
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Posted - 2014.03.22 04:10:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Why EVR? Valkyrie seems cooler to talk about; hell, they even jump started on the lore already for it......
psst, pssssssst. EVR is Valkrie.
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Posted - 2014.03.22 04:35:00 -
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Defy Gravity wrote:What really upsets me is how they put resources toward BULL **** !!!! Fix Dust before you make another broken game Eve VR looks like s-h-i-t anyways Edit: I just watched the new gameplay trailer the new one and it looks even more like s-h-i-t.
Judgement based on a trailer...Have you tried it? I have. EVE Valkyrie is awesome.
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Silas Swakhammer
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Posted - 2014.03.22 05:59:00 -
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Fun fact: this thread is a toilet.
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Rusty Shallows
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Posted - 2014.03.22 06:09:00 -
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Pvt Numnutz wrote:Defy Gravity wrote:What really upsets me is how they put resources toward BULL **** !!!! Fix Dust before you make another broken game Eve VR looks like s-h-i-t anyways Edit: I just watched the new gameplay trailer the new one and it looks even more like s-h-i-t. Ha, I don't really care for your opinion, just wanted to point out that's exactly what most eve players have been saying about dust.
Once upon a time Eve Online and Dust 514 were supposed to be part of the same game. A great many Eve Pilots do not like this one bit with any loss of control. Besides Valkyrie looks like a stand alone. Which is a pity since manned Fighter & Fighter Bombers could have been cool.
Here, have some candy and a Like. :-)
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DeeJay One
Guardian Solutions
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Posted - 2014.03.22 09:47:00 -
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Rusty Shallows wrote:Once upon a time Eve Online and Dust 514 were supposed to be part of the same game. A great many Eve Pilots do not like this one bit with any loss of control. Besides Valkyrie looks like a stand alone. Which is a pity since manned Fighter & Fighter Bombers could have been cool.
Yup, Valkyrie will be stand alone and not connected to EVE for the time being, which makes development like a 1000 times easier as you don't have to touch the pile of legacy code that EVE is... |
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Posted - 2014.03.22 09:50:00 -
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You do understand DUST has more developers right?
They're also hiring like crazy.
CCP went into overdrive to fix this game.
CCP Rouge is just one of many.
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KalOfTheRathi
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Posted - 2014.03.22 11:35:00 -
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DeeJay One wrote:Rusty Shallows wrote:Once upon a time Eve Online and Dust 514 were supposed to be part of the same game. A great many Eve Pilots do not like this one bit with any loss of control. Besides Valkyrie looks like a stand alone. Which is a pity since manned Fighter & Fighter Bombers could have been cool. Yup, Valkyrie will be stand alone and not connected to EVE for the time being, which makes development like a 1000 times easier as you don't have to touch the pile of legacy code that EVE is... The article I linked has some CCP quotes and one is very familiar to Dust players. EVR, Dust and EVE are all in New Eden. The lore is tied together and the games will as well although we have seen first hand how that might or might not be a good thing.
And so it goes.
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R F Gyro
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Posted - 2014.03.22 16:07:00 -
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DeeJay One wrote:Rusty Shallows wrote:Once upon a time Eve Online and Dust 514 were supposed to be part of the same game. A great many Eve Pilots do not like this one bit with any loss of control. Besides Valkyrie looks like a stand alone. Which is a pity since manned Fighter & Fighter Bombers could have been cool. Yup, Valkyrie will be stand alone and not connected to EVE for the time being, which makes development like a 1000 times easier as you don't have to touch the pile of legacy code that EVE is...
Do you have a source for that?
My bet is that Valk will use the same approach that Dust does: dedicated regional battle servers for the main game, plus use of the CREST API for accessing inventory, market, corps, etc.
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DeeJay One
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Posted - 2014.03.22 16:16:00 -
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R F Gyro wrote:DeeJay One wrote:Rusty Shallows wrote:Once upon a time Eve Online and Dust 514 were supposed to be part of the same game. A great many Eve Pilots do not like this one bit with any loss of control. Besides Valkyrie looks like a stand alone. Which is a pity since manned Fighter & Fighter Bombers could have been cool. Yup, Valkyrie will be stand alone and not connected to EVE for the time being, which makes development like a 1000 times easier as you don't have to touch the pile of legacy code that EVE is... Do you have a source for that? My bet is that Valk will use the same approach that Dust does: dedicated regional battle servers for the main game, plus use of the CREST API for accessing inventory, market, corps, etc.
For the codebase or not connected? As for the latter
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-12/24/eve-valkyrie and a few other interviews. Of course fanfest may surprise us with warbarges being able to move around (code which could be needed for any significant integration of Valkyrie, especially that Valkyrie can't hide on planets out of capsuleers reach like we do).
As for codebase stuff: CREST should be out there at least a year ago, POS code hasn't seen any improvements because of being a mess and so on... |
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Posted - 2014.03.22 16:20:00 -
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Silas Swakhammer wrote:Fun fact: this Forum is a toilet.
Fixed it for you.
Anyone getting annoyed by reading of the above post should consider the following.
I don't care so neither should you :)
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Johnny Guilt
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Posted - 2014.03.22 16:30:00 -
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quality over quantity,when it comes to making good games just ask valve or insominc games
A strange game.
The only winning move is
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R F Gyro
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Posted - 2014.03.22 19:23:00 -
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DeeJay One wrote:R F Gyro wrote:DeeJay One wrote:Rusty Shallows wrote:Once upon a time Eve Online and Dust 514 were supposed to be part of the same game. A great many Eve Pilots do not like this one bit with any loss of control. Besides Valkyrie looks like a stand alone. Which is a pity since manned Fighter & Fighter Bombers could have been cool. Yup, Valkyrie will be stand alone and not connected to EVE for the time being, which makes development like a 1000 times easier as you don't have to touch the pile of legacy code that EVE is... Do you have a source for that? My bet is that Valk will use the same approach that Dust does: dedicated regional battle servers for the main game, plus use of the CREST API for accessing inventory, market, corps, etc. For the codebase or not connected? As for the latter http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-12/24/eve-valkyrie and a few other interviews. Of course fanfest may surprise us with warbarges being able to move around (code which could be needed for any significant integration of Valkyrie, especially that Valkyrie can't hide on planets out of capsuleers reach like we do). As for codebase stuff: CREST should be out there at least a year ago, POS code hasn't seen any improvements because of being a mess and so on...
That interview doesn't say there won't be any integration, it just says they aren't going to do a lot of linking the games. I imagine they'll do basic stuff like being able to join the same corps, and shared chat. I could be wrong of course.
CREST is out there, right now, being used for the Eve/Dust integration. They don't need to build anything new Eve side to reuse the stuff that Dust have for Valk.
POS code in Eve is the classic example of CCP legacy code, but don't assume it is typical. It is used as an example precisely because it is unusually complex and unwieldy. Crimewatch was worse, apparently, and they fixed that.
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Defy Gravity
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Posted - 2014.03.22 23:38:00 -
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Pvt Numnutz wrote:Defy Gravity wrote:What really upsets me is how they put resources toward BULL **** !!!! Fix Dust before you make another broken game Eve VR looks like s-h-i-t anyways Edit: I just watched the new gameplay trailer the new one and it looks even more like s-h-i-t. Ha, I don't really care for your opinion, just wanted to point out that's exactly what most eve players have been saying about dust.
And I didn't ask you to care for my opinion.... Scrub xD
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Godin Thekiller
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Posted - 2014.03.23 06:00:00 -
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Hynox Xitio wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:Why EVR? Valkyrie seems cooler to talk about; hell, they even jump started on the lore already for it...... psst, pssssssst. EVR is Valkrie.
No, no it isn't. EVR is VR for EVE. Valkyrie is fighter drones manned with immortals. Two different things.
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Godin Thekiller
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Posted - 2014.03.23 06:02:00 -
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DeeJay One wrote:R F Gyro wrote:DeeJay One wrote:Rusty Shallows wrote:Once upon a time Eve Online and Dust 514 were supposed to be part of the same game. A great many Eve Pilots do not like this one bit with any loss of control. Besides Valkyrie looks like a stand alone. Which is a pity since manned Fighter & Fighter Bombers could have been cool. Yup, Valkyrie will be stand alone and not connected to EVE for the time being, which makes development like a 1000 times easier as you don't have to touch the pile of legacy code that EVE is... Do you have a source for that? My bet is that Valk will use the same approach that Dust does: dedicated regional battle servers for the main game, plus use of the CREST API for accessing inventory, market, corps, etc. For the codebase or not connected? As for the latter http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-12/24/eve-valkyrie and a few other interviews. Of course fanfest may surprise us with warbarges being able to move around (code which could be needed for any significant integration of Valkyrie, especially that Valkyrie can't hide on planets out of capsuleers reach like we do). As for codebase stuff: CREST should be out there at least a year ago, POS code hasn't seen any improvements because of being a mess and so on...
They said that it'll eventually connect to EVE like Dust has.
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LT Dans Legs
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Posted - 2014.03.23 06:13:00 -
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Hmm? Maybe we were never meant to get the fighter jets that are on the loading screen. Maybe Valkyrie will fly down and kill us all. Hmm? 
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Mobius Wyvern
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Posted - 2014.03.23 06:15:00 -
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LT Dans Legs wrote:Hmm? Maybe we were never meant to get the fighter jets that are on the loading screen. Maybe Valkyrie will fly down and kill us all. Hmm?
No integration with either game. They already said that in an interview.
They wanted to just make a small, fun game that showed off what VR can do, and that's what they did. Making them integrated would have taken a LOT more work and require they redid their server code over from the ground up.
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General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.23 06:21:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:LT Dans Legs wrote:Hmm? Maybe we were never meant to get the fighter jets that are on the loading screen. Maybe Valkyrie will fly down and kill us all. Hmm? No integration with either game. They already said that in an interview. They wanted to just make a small, fun game that showed off what VR can do, and that's what they did. Making them integrated would have taken a LOT more work and require they redid their server code over from the ground up.
They did say that and it is in one of the fanfest demo videos. I don't think that Valk will ever be connected to EVE like people want because as a fighter/bomber you have one assigned target that may be a large ship moving very slowly, not many people want to orbit on big ship in 10% TiDi just to be forcefully recalled to the hanger or blown up by a bomb.
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Posted - 2014.03.23 06:31:00 -
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Valkyrie will not be connected at the start; the door is not shut on this though.
EVR was renamed to Valkyrie
There are not that many new art assets outside the cockpits of fighters and effects most are existing in eve already.
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Posted - 2014.03.23 06:53:00 -
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dent 308 wrote:Valkyrie looks like a pile of fun. VR fighter combat in space, great. Getting huge turnout everywhere they setup gear to demo it.
is it point click?
Who wants some?
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Godin Thekiller
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Posted - 2014.03.23 07:00:00 -
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LT Dans Legs wrote:Hmm? Maybe we were never meant to get the fighter jets that are on the loading screen. Maybe Valkyrie will fly down and kill us all. Hmm?
Those aren't the same type of fighters. the Valkyrie ones are much bigger.
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