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Ansiiis The Trustworthy Mocking Bird Inc. 897	Posted - 2014.03.21 20:05:00 - [1] - Quote Is anyone else planning to try out the MagSec on the gallente? NK Scout, you ask if I need ISK every week but I never seem to get any.
Squagga The State Protectorate 307	Posted - 2014.03.21 20:08:00 - [2] - Quote I'm gonna try out the mag sec on everything that moves Reloading, the silent killer.
Nocturnal Soul Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2418	Posted - 2014.03.21 20:20:00 - [3] - Quote lol no it doesn't Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
Soldiersaint Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 733	Posted - 2014.03.21 20:22:00 - [4] - Quote Nope im gonna join the gallente and minmatar and rep them non stop in my minnie logi. i will out rep your dps and bring victory for my gallante people and minmatar allies. i will make sure that the caldari and amarr tryhards who only care about score and kills will never win again in fw.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 11565	Posted - 2014.03.21 20:27:00 - [5] - Quote Who isn't going to try what looks to be the best sidearm? You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Sigberct Amni Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 479	Posted - 2014.03.21 20:51:00 - [6] - Quote How does 1.8 fix faction warfare?
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 5984	Posted - 2014.03.21 20:52:00 - [7] - Quote I see what you did there. AV > HAV > INF > AV \| Not: HAV > AV GëÑ INF [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Ansiiis The Trustworthy Mocking Bird Inc. 897	Posted - 2014.03.22 00:49:00 - [8] - Quote It now fixes the balance between attacks launched in FW. That means that all the Caldari supporters won't have to play defensive battles which win no districts. That way FW will stabilize in the middle. NK Scout, you ask if I need ISK every week but I never seem to get any.
JIMvc2 UNREAL WARRIORS 38	Posted - 2014.03.22 03:43:00 - [9] - Quote Soldiersaint wrote: Nope im gonna join the gallente and minmatar and rep them non stop in my minnie logi. i will out rep your dps and bring victory for my gallante people and minmatar allies. i will make sure that the caldari and amarr tryhards who only care about score and kills will never win again in fw. I agree. Add me JIMvc2 Every Caldari try hard who has 600+ shields will pay and I will get my full revenge on the corp officer that kicked me ----> Bane 843 Gallente and Minmatar players, show no mercy, use whatever you can. I will deal with Amarr later. If you run proto gear, prepare to suffer the consequences. You've been warned.
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7720	Posted - 2014.03.22 03:52:00 - [10] - Quote Sigberct Amni wrote: How does 1.8 fix faction warfare? Well technically last week's update to PC and FW is being classified as part of Uprising 1.8 in the patch notes. Notice how the 100% strange hold finally ended? Factions are now able to capture a district and not expected to defend that single district match after match after match after match until the inevitably lose it again. Amarr and Caldari are slowly working their way back up. Amarr Victor

Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7720	Posted - 2014.03.22 03:55:00 - [11] - Quote JIMvc2 wrote: Soldiersaint wrote: Nope im gonna join the gallente and minmatar and rep them non stop in my minnie logi. i will out rep your dps and bring victory for my gallante people and minmatar allies. i will make sure that the caldari and amarr tryhards who only care about score and kills will never win again in fw. I agree. Add me JIMvc2 Every Caldari try hard who has 600+ shields will pay and I will get my full revenge on the corp officer that kicked me ----> Bane 843 Gallente and Minmatar players, show no mercy, use whatever you can. I will deal with Amarr later. I absolutely love how there is no Gallente FW players or Minmatar FW players, it's always "I do Gallente and Minmatar FW." That's cute Also find it funny that you list Amarr and Caldari as the tryhards who only care about score, because if they was they case they would play for Gallente and Minmatar easy mode. And 600+ shield? Please, just look at how much armor nearly everyone on your team is running with. Amarr Victor
pseudosnipre 605	Posted - 2014.03.22 04:11:00 - [12] - Quote Sigberct Amni wrote: How does 1.8 fix faction warfare? His argument is that loyalty magsecs and uplinks will improve support to the historically inferior Amarr and Caldari. Add to that the busted AR and the scanner nerf and we may see more parity in G/C warfare as players seek out Caldari RRs and magsecs. On the other hand, CR and anti slavery sentiment are strongly in the Minmatar's favor. Unfortunately, 3 second uplinks may turn many an abolitionist against his former duct tape clad brother. Expect Amarr FW to be the new EZ mode for PC-oriented corps. Non-PC corps may want to go color in the corner that will be G/C FW. Today is the sort of day where the sun only comes up to humiliate you.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8622	Posted - 2014.03.22 04:12:00 - [13] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: JIMvc2 wrote: Soldiersaint wrote: Nope im gonna join the gallente and minmatar and rep them non stop in my minnie logi. i will out rep your dps and bring victory for my gallante people and minmatar allies. i will make sure that the caldari and amarr tryhards who only care about score and kills will never win again in fw. I agree. Add me JIMvc2 Every Caldari try hard who has 600+ shields will pay and I will get my full revenge on the corp officer that kicked me ----> Bane 843 Gallente and Minmatar players, show no mercy, use whatever you can. I will deal with Amarr later. I absolutely love how there is no Gallente FW players or Minmatar FW players, it's always "I do Gallente and Minmatar FW." That's cute Also find it funny that you list Amarr and Caldari as the tryhards who only care about score, because if they was they case they would play for Gallente and Minmatar easy mode. And 600+ shield? Please, just look at how much armor nearly everyone on your team is running with. Indeed the Minmatar and Gallente have no dedicated players.....which to me is rather sad, no players willing to commit the fullest of their time and efforts to their own faction. I would consider only a few people worthy of the term Loyalist on the Minmatar and Gallente side. Everyone else are fair weather mercenaries. Either way the Amarr will bring Light and justice to the peoples of New Eden. They will bring about and age of peace and understand amongst all such peoples. And during that time our Empress will reign supreme. And when those who have accepted God are ready they too will be made free citizens of the Amarr Empire. "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
jerrmy12 kahoalii 590	Posted - 2014.03.22 04:13:00 - [14] - Quote Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote: Is anyone else planning to try out the MagSec on the gallente? Im all caldari Closed beta vet Logi, Heavy, Python, Scout. Dark souls 2 new game plus.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 2464	Posted - 2014.03.22 04:16:00 - [15] - Quote pseudosnipre wrote: Sigberct Amni wrote: How does 1.8 fix faction warfare? His argument is that loyalty magsecs and uplinks will improve support to the historically inferior Amarr and Caldari. Add to that the busted AR and the scanner nerf and we may see more parity in G/C warfare as players seek out Caldari RRs and magsecs. On the other hand, CR and anti slavery sentiment are strongly in the Minmatar's favor. Unfortunately, 3 second uplinks may turn many an abolitionist against his former duct tape clad brother. Expect Amarr FW to be the new EZ mode for PC-oriented corps. Non-PC corps may want to go color in the corner that will be G/C FW. If the RR didn't get people into Caldari I don't see what will. Also, "historically" is a term you are using rather loosely. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.2 Amarr victor!
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8622	Posted - 2014.03.22 04:18:00 - [16] - Quote pseudosnipre wrote: Sigberct Amni wrote: How does 1.8 fix faction warfare? His argument is that loyalty magsecs and uplinks will improve support to the historically inferior Amarr and Caldari. Add to that the busted AR and the scanner nerf and we may see more parity in G/C warfare as players seek out Caldari RRs and magsecs. On the other hand, CR and anti slavery sentiment are strongly in the Minmatar's favor. Unfortunately, 3 second uplinks may turn many an abolitionist against his former duct tape clad brother. Expect Amarr FW to be the new EZ mode for PC-oriented corps. Non-PC corps may want to go color in the corner that will be G/C FW. Historically inferior? Have you Dust bunnies bothered to look up? Who do you think owns those skies? I'll give you a hint. We like Gold. "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 5997	Posted - 2014.03.22 04:20:00 - [17] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: I absolutely love how there is no Gallente FW players or Minmatar FW players, it's always "I do Gallente and Minmatar FW." That's cute [citation needed] Don't remember playing a GalFW (except those times when I called in HAVs to get my team kicked lol) Aero Yassavi wrote: Also find it funny that you list Amarr and Caldari as the tryhards who only care about score, because if they was they case they would play for Gallente and Minmatar easy mode. And 600+ shield? Please, just look at how much armor nearly everyone on your team is running with. What's even funnier is listening to AmarrFW players cry about people q-syncing in MinFW, but then clap loudly when the Imperial Death March comes. Oh, and who can forget the fact that when the Amarr had 99% sovereignty during that event, they refused to believe that they had the 99% b/c of people flocking towards them. But when the Matari hold the 99%, it's simply because everyone flocked over to us for EZ-Mode. Did I forget to mention how most ppl who play AmarrFW listed us as tryhards? AV > HAV > INF > AV \| Not: HAV > AV GëÑ INF [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 2465	Posted - 2014.03.22 04:23:00 - [18] - Quote Atiim wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: I absolutely love how there is no Gallente FW players or Minmatar FW players, it's always "I do Gallente and Minmatar FW." That's cute [citation needed] Don't remember playing a GalFW (except those times when I called in HAVs to get my team kicked lol) Aero Yassavi wrote: Also find it funny that you list Amarr and Caldari as the tryhards who only care about score, because if they was they case they would play for Gallente and Minmatar easy mode. And 600+ shield? Please, just look at how much armor nearly everyone on your team is running with. What's even funnier is listening to AmarrFW players cry about people q-syncing in MinFW, but then clap loudly when the Imperial Death March comes. Oh, and who can forget the fact that when the Amarr had 99% sovereignty during that event, they refused to believe that they had the 99% b/c of people flocking towards them. But when the Matari hold the 99%, it's simply because everyone flocked over to us for EZ-Mode. Did I forget to mention how most ppl who play AmarrFW listed us as tryhards? Yeah, so Aero totally pointed out the flaw in the way defense/attack was being set up back when the Amarr held 100%. Just wanted to mention that so we are clear on who is thinking about fair mechanics even when it favors them. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.2 Amarr victor!
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 5997	Posted - 2014.03.22 04:25:00 - [19] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: Yeah, so Aero totally pointed out the flaw in the way defense/attack was being set up back when the Amarr held 100%. Just wanted to point that out so we are clear on who is thinking about fair mechanics even when it favors them. And I also want to clear up the fact that I've done the same, and even requested it's removal. Are you implying that the Matari don't? AV > HAV > INF > AV \| Not: HAV > AV GëÑ INF [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8624	Posted - 2014.03.22 04:26:00 - [20] - Quote Atiim wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: Yeah, so Aero totally pointed out the flaw in the way defense/attack was being set up back when the Amarr held 100%. Just wanted to point that out so we are clear on who is thinking about fair mechanics even when it favors them. And I also want to clear up the fact that I've done the same, and even requested it's removal. Are you implying that the Matari don't? We'll I certainly don't remember seeing you in the Skype chats where we were discussing these aspects of gameplay with Hans and Arkena last year...... "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two

Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7727	Posted - 2014.03.22 04:28:00 - [21] - Quote Atiim wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: I absolutely love how there is no Gallente FW players or Minmatar FW players, it's always "I do Gallente and Minmatar FW." That's cute [citation needed] Don't remember playing a GalFW (except those times when I called in HAVs to get my team kicked lol) Aero Yassavi wrote: Also find it funny that you list Amarr and Caldari as the tryhards who only care about score, because if they was they case they would play for Gallente and Minmatar easy mode. And 600+ shield? Please, just look at how much armor nearly everyone on your team is running with. What's even funnier is listening to AmarrFW players cry about people q-syncing in MinFW, but then clap loudly when the Imperial Death March comes. Oh, and who can forget the fact that when the Amarr had 99% sovereignty during that event, they refused to believe that they had the 99% b/c of people flocking towards them. But when the Matari hold the 99%, it's simply because everyone flocked over to us for EZ-Mode. Did I forget to mention how most ppl who play AmarrFW listed us as tryhards? 1. I'm going with True Adamance's statement that there are very few players who could be described as "Minmatar loyalist" or "Gallente loyalist." Most split there time a lot between the two. Obviously not all. 2. When were the Amarr crying about q-syncers? We simply don't like the newberries that get placed on our team because more people are queuing up for the other side, but we deal with it. Also during that event it was debatable at first because the explanations for the 99% ownership largely implied that the mechanics don't allow for a faction to feasibly exit the stranglehold, so seeing everything start flipping was unusual. However, towards the midle/end of the event and of course well after most people accepted that the large ownership was because of the same issue. Luckily that issue has been resolved since last Tuesday and we're finally starting to see real fluctuation in the star map. Amarr Victor
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 2467	Posted - 2014.03.22 04:28:00 - [22] - Quote Atiim wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: Yeah, so Aero totally pointed out the flaw in the way defense/attack was being set up back when the Amarr held 100%. Just wanted to point that out so we are clear on who is thinking about fair mechanics even when it favors them. And I also want to clear up the fact that I've done the same, and even requested it's removal. Are you implying that the Matari don't? I'm not implying anything, I'm directly pointing out that you are making a broad and incorrect generalization about how the Amarr handle being on the winning side. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.2 Amarr victor!
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7727	Posted - 2014.03.22 04:30:00 - [23] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: Atiim wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: Yeah, so Aero totally pointed out the flaw in the way defense/attack was being set up back when the Amarr held 100%. Just wanted to point that out so we are clear on who is thinking about fair mechanics even when it favors them. And I also want to clear up the fact that I've done the same, and even requested it's removal. Are you implying that the Matari don't? I'm not implying anything, I'm directly pointing out that you are making a broad and incorrect generalization about how the Amarr handle being on the winning side. All John's trying to say is let's not point fingers here! We all want a competitive game and when trying to provide feedback it is best to leave the smack talk on the battlefield. Amarr Victor
pseudosnipre 606	Posted - 2014.03.22 04:30:00 - [24] - Quote True Adamance wrote: pseudosnipre wrote: Sigberct Amni wrote: How does 1.8 fix faction warfare? His argument is that loyalty magsecs and uplinks will improve support to the historically inferior Amarr and Caldari. Add to that the busted AR and the scanner nerf and we may see more parity in G/C warfare as players seek out Caldari RRs and magsecs. On the other hand, CR and anti slavery sentiment are strongly in the Minmatar's favor. Unfortunately, 3 second uplinks may turn many an abolitionist against his former duct tape clad brother. Expect Amarr FW to be the new EZ mode for PC-oriented corps. Non-PC corps may want to go color in the corner that will be G/C FW. Historically inferior? Have you Dust bunnies bothered to look up? Who do you think owns those skies? I'll give you a hint. We like Gold. Comment was made regarding Dust only... But since you brought it up, what IS the conversion rate for gold-to-wins? Looking at the FW district ownership numbers, you guys must not have enough... Today is the sort of day where the sun only comes up to humiliate you.
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7727	Posted - 2014.03.22 04:35:00 - [25] - Quote pseudosnipre wrote: True Adamance wrote: pseudosnipre wrote: Sigberct Amni wrote: How does 1.8 fix faction warfare? His argument is that loyalty magsecs and uplinks will improve support to the historically inferior Amarr and Caldari. Add to that the busted AR and the scanner nerf and we may see more parity in G/C warfare as players seek out Caldari RRs and magsecs. On the other hand, CR and anti slavery sentiment are strongly in the Minmatar's favor. Unfortunately, 3 second uplinks may turn many an abolitionist against his former duct tape clad brother. Expect Amarr FW to be the new EZ mode for PC-oriented corps. Non-PC corps may want to go color in the corner that will be G/C FW. Historically inferior? Have you Dust bunnies bothered to look up? Who do you think owns those skies? I'll give you a hint. We like Gold. Comment was made regarding Dust only... But since you brought it up, what IS the conversion rate for gold-to-wins? Looking at the FW district ownership numbers, you guys must not have enough... Well to be fair the Minmatar still have a larger population of players who support them, so when people start queuing up all those newberries who have all four factions checked will get thrown on the Amarr side more often then not in order to get matches started. Though not taking anything away from the Minmatar, you guys are certainly winning more matches (even if I'm personally on something like a 30-2 streak [) Regarding the star map, keep in mind this is all less than one week of CCP fixing how attack and defense contracts should spawn, with the Minmatar starting out with 0 districts. I'm not expecting the Amarr to take over 50% of the districts with the larger collection of battles are playing out, but I certainly expect it to slowly climb for a while, with the rate of climb gradually slowing and slowing until it stabilizes. Amarr Victor
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8628	Posted - 2014.03.22 04:39:00 - [26] - Quote pseudosnipre wrote: True Adamance wrote: pseudosnipre wrote: Sigberct Amni wrote: How does 1.8 fix faction warfare? His argument is that loyalty magsecs and uplinks will improve support to the historically inferior Amarr and Caldari. Add to that the busted AR and the scanner nerf and we may see more parity in G/C warfare as players seek out Caldari RRs and magsecs. On the other hand, CR and anti slavery sentiment are strongly in the Minmatar's favor. Unfortunately, 3 second uplinks may turn many an abolitionist against his former duct tape clad brother. Expect Amarr FW to be the new EZ mode for PC-oriented corps. Non-PC corps may want to go color in the corner that will be G/C FW. Historically inferior? Have you Dust bunnies bothered to look up? Who do you think owns those skies? I'll give you a hint. We like Gold. Comment was made regarding Dust only... But since you brought it up, what IS the conversion rate for gold-to-wins? Looking at the FW district ownership numbers, you guys must not have enough... Looking at system ownership I would say it doesn't really matter. The only by products of winning Dust side FW are system bonuses for EVE pilots......and Amarrian pilots have been beating Min pilots for months now even negatively affected. Since the recent alteration to the FW system that prevents the winning team exploiting a broken system has only seen Amarrian influence spread as those who have been loyal only rewarded for staying with their faction. And through all this time certain players form certain corporations have remained loyal to ONE specific faction and those associated ideals. We are the loyalists. Those others are mere mercenaries. "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 2468	Posted - 2014.03.22 04:40:00 - [27] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: Atiim wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: Yeah, so Aero totally pointed out the flaw in the way defense/attack was being set up back when the Amarr held 100%. Just wanted to point that out so we are clear on who is thinking about fair mechanics even when it favors them. And I also want to clear up the fact that I've done the same, and even requested it's removal. Are you implying that the Matari don't? I'm not implying anything, I'm directly pointing out that you are making a broad and incorrect generalization about how the Amarr handle being on the winning side. All John's trying to say is let's not point fingers here! We all want a competitive game and when trying to provide feedback it is best to leave the smack talk on the battlefield. Lol. That's a slightly more diplomatic way of putting it than I probably would at the moment, but accurate. Another example, go ahead and q-sync all you want, it's not the act of doing it we b!tch about, it's the fact that we can't compete with several q-synced squads across several matches with our legions of random blueberries who don't even know which faction they picked. It's a pain in the ass and I feel rightly annoyed when my alt that I used to grief in FW for a single weekend managed to get to level 3 in minmatar standings despite actively trying to lose. (As opposed to my main who took like 2 months to get there by fighting tooth and nail every time). It's made 1000% worse by the fact that I then have to defend that district for the next 4 battles straight. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.2 Amarr victor!
pseudosnipre 606	Posted - 2014.03.22 04:42:00 - [28] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: pseudosnipre wrote: True Adamance wrote: pseudosnipre wrote: Sigberct Amni wrote: How does 1.8 fix faction warfare? His argument is that loyalty magsecs and uplinks will improve support to the historically inferior Amarr and Caldari. Add to that the busted AR and the scanner nerf and we may see more parity in G/C warfare as players seek out Caldari RRs and magsecs. On the other hand, CR and anti slavery sentiment are strongly in the Minmatar's favor. Unfortunately, 3 second uplinks may turn many an abolitionist against his former duct tape clad brother. Expect Amarr FW to be the new EZ mode for PC-oriented corps. Non-PC corps may want to go color in the corner that will be G/C FW. Historically inferior? Have you Dust bunnies bothered to look up? Who do you think owns those skies? I'll give you a hint. We like Gold. Comment was made regarding Dust only... But since you brought it up, what IS the conversion rate for gold-to-wins? Looking at the FW district ownership numbers, you guys must not have enough... Well to be fair the Minmatar still have a larger population of players who support them, so when people start queuing up all those newberries who have all four factions checked will get thrown on the Amarr side more often then not in order to get matches started. Though not taking anything away from the Minmatar, you guys are certainly winning more matches (even if I'm personally on something like a 30-2 streak [) Regarding the star map, keep in mind this is all less than one week of CCP fixing how attack and defense contracts should spawn, with the Minmatar starting out with 0 districts. I'm not expecting the Amarr to take over 50% of the districts with the larger collection of battles are playing out, but I certainly expect it to slowly climb for a while, with the rate of climb gradually slowing and slowing until it stabilizes. Agree with everything you have said and look forward to 1.8...just trolling TA a bit before bed. :3 Honest question: do you guys RP hard in squad chat? Like, which PIE guy can quote the most scripture? Today is the sort of day where the sun only comes up to humiliate you.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8628	Posted - 2014.03.22 04:42:00 - [29] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: Atiim wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: Yeah, so Aero totally pointed out the flaw in the way defense/attack was being set up back when the Amarr held 100%. Just wanted to point that out so we are clear on who is thinking about fair mechanics even when it favors them. And I also want to clear up the fact that I've done the same, and even requested it's removal. Are you implying that the Matari don't? I'm not implying anything, I'm directly pointing out that you are making a broad and incorrect generalization about how the Amarr handle being on the winning side. All John's trying to say is let's not point fingers here! We all want a competitive game and when trying to provide feedback it is best to leave the smack talk on the battlefield. Lol. That's a slightly more diplomatic way if putting it than I probably would at the moment, but accurate. Another example, go ahead and q-sync all you want, it's not the act of doing it we b!tch about, it's the fact that we can't compete with several q-synced squads across several matches with our legions of random blueberries who don't even know which faction they picked. It's a pain in the ass and I feel rightly annoyed when my alt that I used to grief in FW for a single weekend managed to get to level 3 in minmatar standings despite actively trying to lose. (As opposed to my main who took like 2 months to get there by fighting tooth and nail every time). It's made 1000% worse by the fact that I then have to defend that district for the next 4 battles straight. Of course we can compete...and win. Aero will attest to our victory over a squad of Carbon 7 and Contract Hunters in FW (both comprising 11 members of their team) while us comprising 5 of ours. It was a fantastic fight. Best I have had out of the Minmatar lately. "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 2468	Posted - 2014.03.22 04:47:00 - [30] - Quote pseudosnipre wrote: Agree with everything you have said and look forward to 1.8...just trolling TA a bit before bed. :3 Honest question: do you guys RP hard in squad chat? Like, which PIE guy can quote the most scripture? They do not. It was a little disappointing at first, tbh. No, wait. I didn't say that, It's a glorious rhetorical masterpiece every time. Their oratorial skills are unmatched. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.2 Amarr victor!

True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8628	Posted - 2014.03.22 04:47:00 - [31] - Quote pseudosnipre wrote: Honest question: do you guys RP hard in squad chat? Like, which PIE guy can quote the most scripture? Hell no that's inefficient. "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7735	Posted - 2014.03.22 04:49:00 - [32] - Quote pseudosnipre wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Well to be fair the Minmatar still have a larger population of players who support them, so when people start queuing up all those newberries who have all four factions checked will get thrown on the Amarr side more often then not in order to get matches started. Though not taking anything away from the Minmatar, you guys are certainly winning more matches (even if I'm personally on something like a 30-2 streak [) Regarding the star map, keep in mind this is all less than one week of CCP fixing how attack and defense contracts should spawn, with the Minmatar starting out with 0 districts. I'm not expecting the Amarr to take over 50% of the districts with the larger collection of battles are playing out, but I certainly expect it to slowly climb for a while, with the rate of climb gradually slowing and slowing until it stabilizes. Agree with everything you have said and look forward to 1.8...just trolling TA a bit before bed. :3 Honest question: do you guys RP hard in squad chat? Like, which PIE guy can quote the most scripture? This is probably the most commonly asked question I get. The answer is simple: No. Why talk casually like everyone else in comms. However I would say True Adamance could quote most the scripture Amarr Victor
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 5998	Posted - 2014.03.22 04:49:00 - [33] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: 1. I'm going with True Adamance's statement that there are very few players who could be described as "Minmatar loyalist" or "Gallente loyalist." Most split there time a lot between the two. Obviously not all. 2. When were the Amarr crying about q-syncers? We simply don't like the newberries that get placed on our team because more people are queuing up for the other side, but we deal with it. Also during that event it was debatable at first because the explanations for the 99% ownership largely implied that the mechanics don't allow for a faction to feasibly exit the stranglehold, so seeing everything start flipping was unusual. However, towards the midle/end of the event and of course well after most people accepted that the large ownership was because of the same issue. Luckily that issue has been resolved since last Tuesday and we're finally starting to see real fluctuation in the star map. I specifically remember a thread where Mr. Machine Guns and a group of others were talking about how MinFW was EZ-Mode where people q-sync when they get tired of being stomped into the ground, and want to stomp themselves. I'd link the thread, but It's 12am and I'm not fishing through my favorites bin for it. I'm just trying to prevent people from creating generalizations and falsifications that favor them. AV > HAV > INF > AV \| Not: HAV > AV GëÑ INF [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
pseudosnipre 606	Posted - 2014.03.22 04:50:00 - [34] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: Their oratorial skills are unmatched. I've heard something similar... Today is the sort of day where the sun only comes up to humiliate you.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 2470	Posted - 2014.03.22 04:52:00 - [35] - Quote Atiim wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: 1. I'm going with True Adamance's statement that there are very few players who could be described as "Minmatar loyalist" or "Gallente loyalist." Most split there time a lot between the two. Obviously not all. 2. When were the Amarr crying about q-syncers? We simply don't like the newberries that get placed on our team because more people are queuing up for the other side, but we deal with it. Also during that event it was debatable at first because the explanations for the 99% ownership largely implied that the mechanics don't allow for a faction to feasibly exit the stranglehold, so seeing everything start flipping was unusual. However, towards the midle/end of the event and of course well after most people accepted that the large ownership was because of the same issue. Luckily that issue has been resolved since last Tuesday and we're finally starting to see real fluctuation in the star map. I specifically remember a thread where Mr. Machine Guns and a group of others were talking about how MinFW was EZ-Mode where people q-sync when they get tired of being stomped into the ground, and want to stomp themselves. I'd link the thread, but It's 12am and I'm not fishing through my favorites bin for it. I'm just trying to prevent people from creating generalizations and falsifications that favor them. Guns is probably not the right person to use as your representative sample. (Oh, and True, I meant can't compete in a global sense. Our loyalist squads can go toe to toe with anyone, naturally, but the unwashed masses that fill the rest of our battles simply cannot. ) "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.2 Amarr victor!
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7735	Posted - 2014.03.22 04:53:00 - [36] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Of course we can compete...and win. Aero will attest to our victory over a squad of Carbon 7 and Contract Hunters in FW (both comprising 11 members of their team) while us comprising 5 of ours. It was a fantastic fight. Best I have had out of the Minmatar lately. Don't forget WTF, Prima Gallicus, Ultramarines, and so on. We have beaten several q-synced Minmatar teams before with our own q-synced teams. But yes that recent match with 11 people from two corps on the enemy team and when I look at our team it says "Squad 0: 5/6, No Squad: 11" was a very satisfying victory, all the way to the last tick. Amarr Victor
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 5998	Posted - 2014.03.22 04:53:00 - [37] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: All John's trying to say is let's not point fingers here! We all want a competitive game and when trying to provide feedback it is best to leave the smack talk on the battlefield. My apologies. I thought you were trying to point fingers and stuff when I saw that post about their being no true Matari and Gallente loyalists. (Which would probably pi$$ off Sgt. Kirk, Cat Merc, and Arkena) Indeed. AV > HAV > INF > AV \| Not: HAV > AV GëÑ INF [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 2470	Posted - 2014.03.22 04:55:00 - [38] - Quote pseudosnipre wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: Their oratorial skills are unmatched. I've heard something similar... Not touching that one... (EDIT: or the one where you comment on what I just said, realized it right as I posted it) "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.2 Amarr victor!
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7735	Posted - 2014.03.22 04:55:00 - [39] - Quote Atiim wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: All John's trying to say is let's not point fingers here! We all want a competitive game and when trying to provide feedback it is best to leave the smack talk on the battlefield. My apologies. I thought you were trying to point fingers and stuff when I saw that post about their being no true Matari and Gallente loyalists. (Which would probably pi$$ off Sgt. Kirk, Cat Merc, and Arkena) Indeed. Whenever I use an absolute term like "all" or "not any," that is usually always a hyperbole for "most" or "few," respectively. Amarr Victor
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7738	Posted - 2014.03.22 05:02:00 - [40] - Quote Atiim wrote: I specifically remember a thread where Mr. Machine Guns and a group of others were talking about how MinFW was EZ-Mode where people q-sync when they get tired of being stomped into the ground, and want to stomp themselves. I'd link the thread, but It's 12am and I'm not fishing through my favorites bin for it. I'm just trying to prevent people from creating generalizations and falsifications that favor them. The whole "easy mode" remark is absolutely nothing that can be blamed on anyone. Well, you could probably blame CCP if you want. Basically it's as stated, since most people specifically pick to fight for the Minmatar (or Gallente), all the newer player who have all four factions selected will more often then not go to the Amarr (and Caldari) sides in order to get matches started. This is primarily a user interface issue that is having a big impact on the gameplay. This could easily be solved in many ways, like making it more obvious how to choose what faction you fight for and/or making the default settings "No faction selected" and requiring you to manually select at least one faction if you want to play Faction Warfare. Amarr Victor

Dimitri Rascolovitch The Immortal Knights 132	Posted - 2014.03.22 05:23:00 - [41] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: True Adamance wrote: Of course we can compete...and win. Aero will attest to our victory over a squad of Carbon 7 and Contract Hunters in FW (both comprising 11 members of their team) while us comprising 5 of ours. It was a fantastic fight. Best I have had out of the Minmatar lately. Don't forget WTF, Prima Gallicus, Ultramarines, and so on. We have beaten several q-synced Minmatar teams before with our own q-synced teams. But yes that recent match with 11 people from two corps on the enemy team and when I look at our team it says "Squad 0: 5/6, No Squad: 11" was a very satisfying victory, all the way to the last tick. that battle was great, one of the reasons i love running with you guys in pie chat ...Yeah, i use a heavy machine gun, and I think i do a Damn good job at it. i eat babies forum warrior Lv0
Regis Blackbird DUST University Ivy League 128	Posted - 2014.03.22 07:26:00 - [42] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Sigberct Amni wrote: How does 1.8 fix faction warfare? Well technically last week's update to PC and FW is being classified as part of Uprising 1.8 in the patch notes. Notice how the 100% strange hold finally ended? Factions are now able to capture a district and not expected to defend that single district match after match after match after match until the inevitably lose it again. Amarr and Caldari are slowly working their way back up. This ^ The fix is already out which is very apparent if you look at the star map.
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3661	Posted - 2014.03.22 07:29:00 - [43] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Sigberct Amni wrote: How does 1.8 fix faction warfare? Well technically last week's update to PC and FW is being classified as part of Uprising 1.8 in the patch notes. Notice how the 100% strange hold finally ended? Factions are now able to capture a district and not expected to defend that single district match after match after match after match until the inevitably lose it again. Amarr and Caldari are slowly working their way back up. Which is GREAT IMO. I find it so much easier to get into FW matches now! BRB, gotta go slap some Amarr around Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face. I've got 3k likes, I'll double post if I want to dammit!
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8631	Posted - 2014.03.22 12:00:00 - [44] - Quote Atiim wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: All John's trying to say is let's not point fingers here! We all want a competitive game and when trying to provide feedback it is best to leave the smack talk on the battlefield. My apologies. I thought you were trying to point fingers and stuff when I saw that post about their being no true Matari and Gallente loyalists. (Which would probably pi$$ off Sgt. Kirk, Cat Merc, and Arkena) Indeed. I mentioned specific individuals however there are not truly representative and exclusive corporations as a whole dedicated to a single faction for either of the aforementioned. "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
Ansiiis The Trustworthy Mocking Bird Inc. 905	Posted - 2014.03.22 14:19:00 - [45] - Quote That explains why Caldari have more land. Played a few matches yesterday and it felt nice. Also @Atiim Sgt Kirk being Arkenai it is quite sad that Gallente have only 2 loyal players and everyone else is there to get free LP. Using the Thales
Moochie Cricket Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 605	Posted - 2014.03.22 14:43:00 - [46] - Quote Soldiersaint wrote: Nope im gonna join the gallente and minmatar and rep them non stop in my minnie logi. i will out rep your dps and bring victory for my gallante people and minmatar allies. i will make sure that the caldari and amarr tryhards who only care about score and kills will never win again in fw. True Caldarians only care about the advancement of the State. Once the great war machine of the Caldari people picks up steam, no one and nothing will be able to stand in its path. "Military training is preferable, but anyone who can fly a plane would be useful." "I can fly. I'm pilot."
843 Epidemic BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 563	Posted - 2014.03.22 16:52:00 - [47] - Quote JIMvc2 wrote: Soldiersaint wrote: Nope im gonna join the gallente and minmatar and rep them non stop in my minnie logi. i will out rep your dps and bring victory for my gallante people and minmatar allies. i will make sure that the caldari and amarr tryhards who only care about score and kills will never win again in fw. I agree. Add me JIMvc2 Every Caldari try hard who has 600+ shields will pay and I will get my full revenge on the corp officer that kicked me ----> Bane 843 Gallente and Minmatar players, show no mercy, use whatever you can. I will deal with Amarr later. lol. Twin brother of 843-BANE


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