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Aero Yassavi
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Posted - 2014.03.22 03:52:00 -
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Sigberct Amni wrote:How does 1.8 fix faction warfare?
Well technically last week's update to PC and FW is being classified as part of Uprising 1.8 in the patch notes. Notice how the 100% strange hold finally ended? Factions are now able to capture a district and not expected to defend that single district match after match after match after match until the inevitably lose it again. Amarr and Caldari are slowly working their way back up.
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Aero Yassavi
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Posted - 2014.03.22 03:55:00 -
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JIMvc2 wrote:Soldiersaint wrote:Nope im gonna join the gallente and minmatar and rep them non stop in my minnie logi. i will out rep your dps and bring victory for my gallante people and minmatar allies. i will make sure that the caldari and amarr tryhards who only care about score and kills will never win again in fw. I agree. Add me JIMvc2 Every Caldari try hard who has 600+ shields will pay and I will get my full revenge on the corp officer that kicked me ----> Bane 843 Gallente and Minmatar players, show no mercy, use whatever you can. I will deal with Amarr later.
I absolutely love how there is no Gallente FW players or Minmatar FW players, it's always "I do Gallente and Minmatar FW." That's cute 
Also find it funny that you list Amarr and Caldari as the tryhards who only care about score, because if they was they case they would play for Gallente and Minmatar easy mode. And 600+ shield? Please, just look at how much armor nearly everyone on your team is running with. 
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Aero Yassavi
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Posted - 2014.03.22 04:28:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:I absolutely love how there is no Gallente FW players or Minmatar FW players, it's always "I do Gallente and Minmatar FW." That's cute [ citation needed] Don't remember playing a GalFW (except those times when I called in HAVs to get my team kicked lol) Aero Yassavi wrote:Also find it funny that you list Amarr and Caldari as the tryhards who only care about score, because if they was they case they would play for Gallente and Minmatar easy mode. And 600+ shield? Please, just look at how much armor nearly everyone on your team is running with. What's even funnier is listening to AmarrFW players cry about people q-syncing in MinFW, but then clap loudly when the Imperial Death March comes. Oh, and who can forget the fact that when the Amarr had 99% sovereignty during that event, they refused to believe that they had the 99% b/c of people flocking towards them. But when the Matari hold the 99%, it's simply because everyone flocked over to us for EZ-Mode. Did I forget to mention how most ppl who play AmarrFW listed us as tryhards?   1. I'm going with True Adamance's statement that there are very few players who could be described as "Minmatar loyalist" or "Gallente loyalist." Most split there time a lot between the two. Obviously not all.
2. When were the Amarr crying about q-syncers? We simply don't like the newberries that get placed on our team because more people are queuing up for the other side, but we deal with it. Also during that event it was debatable at first because the explanations for the 99% ownership largely implied that the mechanics don't allow for a faction to feasibly exit the stranglehold, so seeing everything start flipping was unusual. However, towards the midle/end of the event and of course well after most people accepted that the large ownership was because of the same issue. Luckily that issue has been resolved since last Tuesday and we're finally starting to see real fluctuation in the star map.
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Aero Yassavi
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Posted - 2014.03.22 04:30:00 -
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John Demonsbane wrote:Atiim wrote:John Demonsbane wrote:
Yeah, so Aero totally pointed out the flaw in the way defense/attack was being set up back when the Amarr held 100%.
Just wanted to point that out so we are clear on who is thinking about fair mechanics even when it favors them.
And I also want to clear up the fact that I've done the same, and even requested it's removal. Are you implying that the Matari don't? I'm not implying anything, I'm directly pointing out that you are making a broad and incorrect generalization about how the Amarr handle being on the winning side.
All John's trying to say is let's not point fingers here! We all want a competitive game and when trying to provide feedback it is best to leave the smack talk on the battlefield.
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Aero Yassavi
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Posted - 2014.03.22 04:35:00 -
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pseudosnipre wrote:True Adamance wrote:pseudosnipre wrote:Sigberct Amni wrote:How does 1.8 fix faction warfare? His argument is that loyalty magsecs and uplinks will improve support to the historically inferior Amarr and Caldari. Add to that the busted AR and the scanner nerf and we may see more parity in G/C warfare as players seek out Caldari RRs and magsecs. On the other hand, CR and anti slavery sentiment are strongly in the Minmatar's favor. Unfortunately, 3 second uplinks may turn many an abolitionist against his former duct tape clad brother. Expect Amarr FW to be the new EZ mode for PC-oriented corps. Non-PC corps may want to go color in the corner that will be G/C FW. Historically inferior? Have you Dust bunnies bothered to look up? Who do you think owns those skies? I'll give you a hint. We like Gold. Comment was made regarding Dust only... But since you brought it up, what IS the conversion rate for gold-to-wins? Looking at the FW district ownership numbers, you guys must not have enough...
Well to be fair the Minmatar still have a larger population of players who support them, so when people start queuing up all those newberries who have all four factions checked will get thrown on the Amarr side more often then not in order to get matches started. Though not taking anything away from the Minmatar, you guys are certainly winning more matches (even if I'm personally on something like a 30-2 streak [ )
Regarding the star map, keep in mind this is all less than one week of CCP fixing how attack and defense contracts should spawn, with the Minmatar starting out with 0 districts. I'm not expecting the Amarr to take over 50% of the districts with the larger collection of battles are playing out, but I certainly expect it to slowly climb for a while, with the rate of climb gradually slowing and slowing until it stabilizes.
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Aero Yassavi
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Posted - 2014.03.22 04:49:00 -
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pseudosnipre wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Well to be fair the Minmatar still have a larger population of players who support them, so when people start queuing up all those newberries who have all four factions checked will get thrown on the Amarr side more often then not in order to get matches started. Though not taking anything away from the Minmatar, you guys are certainly winning more matches (even if I'm personally on something like a 30-2 streak [ ) Regarding the star map, keep in mind this is all less than one week of CCP fixing how attack and defense contracts should spawn, with the Minmatar starting out with 0 districts. I'm not expecting the Amarr to take over 50% of the districts with the larger collection of battles are playing out, but I certainly expect it to slowly climb for a while, with the rate of climb gradually slowing and slowing until it stabilizes. Agree with everything you have said and look forward to 1.8...just trolling TA a bit before bed. :3 Honest question: do you guys RP hard in squad chat? Like, which PIE guy can quote the most scripture?
This is probably the most commonly asked question I get. The answer is simple: No. Why talk casually like everyone else in comms. However I would say True Adamance could quote most the scripture 
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Aero Yassavi
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Posted - 2014.03.22 04:53:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:
Of course we can compete...and win.
Aero will attest to our victory over a squad of Carbon 7 and Contract Hunters in FW (both comprising 11 members of their team) while us comprising 5 of ours.
It was a fantastic fight. Best I have had out of the Minmatar lately.
Don't forget WTF, Prima Gallicus, Ultramarines, and so on. We have beaten several q-synced Minmatar teams before with our own q-synced teams.
But yes that recent match with 11 people from two corps on the enemy team and when I look at our team it says "Squad 0: 5/6, No Squad: 11" was a very satisfying victory, all the way to the last tick.
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Aero Yassavi
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Posted - 2014.03.22 04:55:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:
All John's trying to say is let's not point fingers here! We all want a competitive game and when trying to provide feedback it is best to leave the smack talk on the battlefield.
My apologies. I thought you were trying to point fingers and stuff when I saw that post about their being no true Matari and Gallente loyalists. (Which would probably pi$$ off Sgt. Kirk, Cat Merc, and Arkena) Indeed.
Whenever I use an absolute term like "all" or "not any," that is usually always a hyperbole for "most" or "few," respectively. 
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Aero Yassavi
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Posted - 2014.03.22 05:02:00 -
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Atiim wrote:
I specifically remember a thread where Mr. Machine Guns and a group of others were talking about how MinFW was EZ-Mode where people q-sync when they get tired of being stomped into the ground, and want to stomp themselves.
I'd link the thread, but It's 12am and I'm not fishing through my favorites bin for it.
I'm just trying to prevent people from creating generalizations and falsifications that favor them.
The whole "easy mode" remark is absolutely nothing that can be blamed on anyone. Well, you could probably blame CCP if you want. Basically it's as stated, since most people specifically pick to fight for the Minmatar (or Gallente), all the newer player who have all four factions selected will more often then not go to the Amarr (and Caldari) sides in order to get matches started. This is primarily a user interface issue that is having a big impact on the gameplay. This could easily be solved in many ways, like making it more obvious how to choose what faction you fight for and/or making the default settings "No faction selected" and requiring you to manually select at least one faction if you want to play Faction Warfare.
Amarr Victor
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