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John Demonsbane
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Posted - 2014.03.22 04:16:00 -
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pseudosnipre wrote:Sigberct Amni wrote:How does 1.8 fix faction warfare? His argument is that loyalty magsecs and uplinks will improve support to the historically inferior Amarr and Caldari. Add to that the busted AR and the scanner nerf and we may see more parity in G/C warfare as players seek out Caldari RRs and magsecs. On the other hand, CR and anti slavery sentiment are strongly in the Minmatar's favor. Unfortunately, 3 second uplinks may turn many an abolitionist against his former duct tape clad brother. Expect Amarr FW to be the new EZ mode for PC-oriented corps. Non-PC corps may want to go color in the corner that will be G/C FW.
If the RR didn't get people into Caldari I don't see what will. Also, "historically" is a term you are using rather loosely.
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
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John Demonsbane
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Posted - 2014.03.22 04:23:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:I absolutely love how there is no Gallente FW players or Minmatar FW players, it's always "I do Gallente and Minmatar FW." That's cute  [ citation needed] Don't remember playing a GalFW (except those times when I called in HAVs to get my team kicked lol) Aero Yassavi wrote:Also find it funny that you list Amarr and Caldari as the tryhards who only care about score, because if they was they case they would play for Gallente and Minmatar easy mode. And 600+ shield? Please, just look at how much armor nearly everyone on your team is running with.  What's even funnier is listening to AmarrFW players cry about people q-syncing in MinFW, but then clap loudly when the Imperial Death March comes. Oh, and who can forget the fact that when the Amarr had 99% sovereignty during that event, they refused to believe that they had the 99% b/c of people flocking towards them. But when the Matari hold the 99%, it's simply because everyone flocked over to us for EZ-Mode. Did I forget to mention how most ppl who play AmarrFW listed us as tryhards?  
Yeah, so Aero totally pointed out the flaw in the way defense/attack was being set up back when the Amarr held 100%.
Just wanted to mention that so we are clear on who is thinking about fair mechanics even when it favors them.
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
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John Demonsbane
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Posted - 2014.03.22 04:28:00 -
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Atiim wrote:John Demonsbane wrote:
Yeah, so Aero totally pointed out the flaw in the way defense/attack was being set up back when the Amarr held 100%.
Just wanted to point that out so we are clear on who is thinking about fair mechanics even when it favors them.
And I also want to clear up the fact that I've done the same, and even requested it's removal. Are you implying that the Matari don't?
I'm not implying anything, I'm directly pointing out that you are making a broad and incorrect generalization about how the Amarr handle being on the winning side.
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
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John Demonsbane
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Posted - 2014.03.22 04:40:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:John Demonsbane wrote:Atiim wrote:John Demonsbane wrote:
Yeah, so Aero totally pointed out the flaw in the way defense/attack was being set up back when the Amarr held 100%.
Just wanted to point that out so we are clear on who is thinking about fair mechanics even when it favors them.
And I also want to clear up the fact that I've done the same, and even requested it's removal. Are you implying that the Matari don't? I'm not implying anything, I'm directly pointing out that you are making a broad and incorrect generalization about how the Amarr handle being on the winning side. All John's trying to say is let's not point fingers here! We all want a competitive game and when trying to provide feedback it is best to leave the smack talk on the battlefield.
Lol. That's a slightly more diplomatic way of putting it than I probably would at the moment, but accurate.
Another example, go ahead and q-sync all you want, it's not the act of doing it we b!tch about, it's the fact that we can't compete with several q-synced squads across several matches with our legions of random blueberries who don't even know which faction they picked.
It's a pain in the ass and I feel rightly annoyed when my alt that I used to grief in FW for a single weekend managed to get to level 3 in minmatar standings despite actively trying to lose. (As opposed to my main who took like 2 months to get there by fighting tooth and nail every time). It's made 1000% worse by the fact that I then have to defend that district for the next 4 battles straight.
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
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John Demonsbane
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Posted - 2014.03.22 04:47:00 -
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pseudosnipre wrote:
Agree with everything you have said and look forward to 1.8...just trolling TA a bit before bed. :3
Honest question: do you guys RP hard in squad chat? Like, which PIE guy can quote the most scripture?
They do not. It was a little disappointing at first, tbh.
No, wait. I didn't say that, It's a glorious rhetorical masterpiece every time. Their oratorial skills are unmatched.
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
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John Demonsbane
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Posted - 2014.03.22 04:52:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:
1. I'm going with True Adamance's statement that there are very few players who could be described as "Minmatar loyalist" or "Gallente loyalist." Most split there time a lot between the two. Obviously not all.
2. When were the Amarr crying about q-syncers? We simply don't like the newberries that get placed on our team because more people are queuing up for the other side, but we deal with it. Also during that event it was debatable at first because the explanations for the 99% ownership largely implied that the mechanics don't allow for a faction to feasibly exit the stranglehold, so seeing everything start flipping was unusual. However, towards the midle/end of the event and of course well after most people accepted that the large ownership was because of the same issue. Luckily that issue has been resolved since last Tuesday and we're finally starting to see real fluctuation in the star map.
I specifically remember a thread where Mr. Machine Guns and a group of others were talking about how MinFW was EZ-Mode where people q-sync when they get tired of being stomped into the ground, and want to stomp themselves. I'd link the thread, but It's 12am and I'm not fishing through my favorites bin for it. I'm just trying to prevent people from creating generalizations and falsifications that favor them.
Guns is probably not the right person to use as your representative sample.
(Oh, and True, I meant can't compete in a global sense. Our loyalist squads can go toe to toe with anyone, naturally, but the unwashed masses that fill the rest of our battles simply cannot. )
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
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John Demonsbane
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Posted - 2014.03.22 04:55:00 -
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pseudosnipre wrote:John Demonsbane wrote:Their oratorial skills are unmatched.
I've heard something similar... 
Not touching that one...
(EDIT: or the one where you comment on what I just said, realized it right as I posted it)
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
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