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Zahle Undt wrote:

Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:

Squagga wrote:

It's not so much that tanks are OP it's that tanks are so cheap to not only aquire but be able to purchase over and over again. One big problem I have with AV is having to fight off the entire enemy team while I'm fighting off a tank. The only weapon I've never used to take down a tank is plasma launcher cause that weapon is fuuuuuucken broken. Not to mention it's Gallente. Also I have to put more points into AV when I'm already skilling into other things, most importantly assault, for me. Again the biggest problem, in my eyes, is the cost. It costs more for a dropsuit loadout than most tanks? The fucks up with that?

I can agree with that . But militia tanks are cheep and a price increase needs to be in order also a change to the performance of militia vehicle mods . I don't wan't militia tanks to be glass cannons but they should not be able to compete if that same person has not invested a single skill point into vehicles , now that's just wrong .

A zero investment shouldn't be able to compete with a player who has invested millions and much less thousands of skill points into vehicle usage .

So cheap tanks are currently part of our problem, but yet at the same time I don't think we need to return to overly expensive tanks either. I know a lot of my buddies that would run vehicles in beta were ALWAYS broke because vehicles were too expensive. So they would have to run a bunch of game as infantry (which they hated) to be able to afford to use tanks until one got blown up, and then the cycle would repeat.

I would like to see tanking be viable for someone who likes it to be able to do it every match, they just are too dang powerful right now. Unless their are other tanks or actual skilled AV players on the field even a vehicle scrub like me is OP in a militia tank.

So lets buff AV, then lets make it so the real tankers have a real advantage over scrub tankers. Until we have another viable option to tanks than other tanks we shouldn't mess too much with militia tanks, but after, then weaken the militia tanks so that people that invest into the role definitely have the advantage.

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Squagga The State Protectorate 307	Posted - 2014.03.21 19:50:00 - [1] - Quote It's not so much that tanks are OP it's that tanks are so cheap to not only aquire but be able to purchase over and over again. One big problem I have with AV is having to fight off the entire enemy team while I'm fighting off a tank. The only weapon I've never used to take down a tank is plasma launcher cause that weapon is fuuuuuucken broken. Not to mention it's Gallente. Also I have to put more points into AV when I'm already skilling into other things, most importantly assault, for me. Again the biggest problem, in my eyes, is the cost. It costs more for a dropsuit loadout than most tanks? The fucks up with that? Reloading, the silent killer.
Squagga The State Protectorate 307	Posted - 2014.03.21 20:06:00 - [2] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Squagga wrote: It's not so much that tanks are OP it's that tanks are so cheap to not only aquire but be able to purchase over and over again. One big problem I have with AV is having to fight off the entire enemy team while I'm fighting off a tank. The only weapon I've never used to take down a tank is plasma launcher cause that weapon is fuuuuuucken broken. Not to mention it's Gallente. Also I have to put more points into AV when I'm already skilling into other things, most importantly assault, for me. Again the biggest problem, in my eyes, is the cost. It costs more for a dropsuit loadout than most tanks? The fucks up with that? I can agree with that . But militia tanks are cheep and a price increase needs to be in order also a change to the performance of militia vehicle mods . I don't wan't militia tanks to be glass cannons but they should not be able to compete if that same person has not invested a single skill point into vehicles , now that's just wrong . A zero investment shouldn't be able to compete with a player who has invested millions and much less thousands of skill points into vehicle usage . While I do agree with that it shouldn't be just a tank that can take out another tank. What would be the point of having AV? You should't need PRO AV gear to take down a militia tank. Right now being an AV player is just a thankless thankless job. I can't recall who said this earlier in this thread but yes. REs are the only real effective way to take down a tank. Then the tank pilot is so upset because someone was able to knock them off their stupid perch of fighting everyone by themselves with little to no skill involved Reloading, the silent killer.
Squagga The State Protectorate 307	Posted - 2014.03.21 20:17:00 - [3] - Quote Zahle Undt wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Squagga wrote: It's not so much that tanks are OP it's that tanks are so cheap to not only aquire but be able to purchase over and over again. One big problem I have with AV is having to fight off the entire enemy team while I'm fighting off a tank. The only weapon I've never used to take down a tank is plasma launcher cause that weapon is fuuuuuucken broken. Not to mention it's Gallente. Also I have to put more points into AV when I'm already skilling into other things, most importantly assault, for me. Again the biggest problem, in my eyes, is the cost. It costs more for a dropsuit loadout than most tanks? The fucks up with that? I can agree with that . But militia tanks are cheep and a price increase needs to be in order also a change to the performance of militia vehicle mods . I don't wan't militia tanks to be glass cannons but they should not be able to compete if that same person has not invested a single skill point into vehicles , now that's just wrong . A zero investment shouldn't be able to compete with a player who has invested millions and much less thousands of skill points into vehicle usage . So cheap tanks are currently part of our problem, but yet at the same time I don't think we need to return to overly expensive tanks either. I know a lot of my buddies that would run vehicles in beta were ALWAYS broke because vehicles were too expensive. So they would have to run a bunch of game as infantry (which they hated) to be able to afford to use tanks until one got blown up, and then the cycle would repeat. I would like to see tanking be viable for someone who likes it to be able to do it every match, they just are too dang powerful right now. Unless their are other tanks or actual skilled AV players on the field even a vehicle scrub like me is OP in a militia tank. So lets buff AV, then lets make it so the real tankers have a real advantage over scrub tankers. Until we have another viable option to tanks than other tanks we shouldn't mess too much with militia tanks, but after, then weaken the militia tanks so that people that invest into the role definitely have the advantage. I believe that people who invest the majority of their sp into something should be rewarded with their health and damage. This needs to be balanced, especially concerning the militia gear. This goes for tankers and AVers Reloading, the silent killer.