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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2014.03.22 18:19:00 -
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NAV HIV wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Not, and I repeat, NOT aim assist.
It's the speed reduction on hit.
That's a stupid mechanic that HAS TO GO RIGHT NOW, like tomorrow, in a hotfix, gone, nobody will miss it.
It gives high fire rate weaponry too much of an advantage, it makes it so that a single hit means your speedy suit is dead.
HMG, Combat Rifle, Assault Combat Rifle, they all become absurd when this mechanic is brought in. Dont get shot may be ?
Yes.
Don't get shot.
In a frontline battle.
Go play PC and be an assault, your ROLE is to be a frontline combatant.
Good luck not being shot 
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
DUST514514
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.03.22 19:56:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Smooth Assassin wrote:Speed tanking will only be viable if TTK and aim assist are gone. Aim assist causes those bullet magnets which gets you those corner kills. Speed tanking should never be viable and its a broken idea, if everyone can run faster than we are mechanically able to track theres no point to playing at all since no one will kill anyone When I say speed tanking, I mean being able to run away faster than someone can kill you, not dancing and being invincible. This mechanic stops that from happening. That implies running faster than the current tracking speed IE broken BS To me though the problem really lies in map design, theres no popping in and out of air ducts and narrow passages the other suits cant fit into for a scout and something like that would really shake up encounters
No it does not imply running faster than tracking speed. The calculations have been done for all suits on these forums before - By Aeon iirc.
Easy to calculate: time rotation rate for suit+weapon, pick a range, and you'll see that no suit in the game can out strafe or out run gun tracking.
But some players can out-strafe other players by messing with their heads/expectations - the ability to do that is purely skill-based and does not happen without practice.
But speed-tanking as we're using it here is about getting from cover to cover and the ability to get the hell out of a bad spot pronto. That's it. The sloth mechanic is some magic slow spell that CCP applies whenever a suit is touched by an incoming round - it's flat out silly.
I support SP rollover.
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Scheneighnay McBob
Endless Hatred
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
4419
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Posted - 2014.03.22 19:58:00 -
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Once again: infantry should NOT be able to speed tank against other infantry. And this is coming from a scout.
Speed tanking should only work against slow-tracking turrets; in any other cases, it's just unrealistic and stupid.
I am your scan error.
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Rusty Shallows
1195
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Posted - 2014.03.22 20:12:00 -
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pseudosnipre wrote:That bullet magnetism, though.
Sssh keep quiet and stay three steps ahead everyone else.
Cody Sietz wrote:I'd say it's more in line with your guy box becoming bigger as you run and the bullet magnetism that pulls bullets to your body.
If it weren't for those 2 factors, Minmatar suits would have a interesting use on the battle field and be ultimate flanker suits.
CODY! Stop, please stop. I'm begging you. The general public might make the connection with bullet magnetism and Sniper Rifle head-shots.
... ruh-roe... I've said too much.
Here, have some candy and a Like. :-)
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Delta90212
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.03.22 20:15:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Once again: infantry should NOT be able to speed tank against other infantry. And this is coming from a scout.
Speed tanking should only work against slow-tracking turrets; in any other cases, it's just unrealistic and stupid.
balance > realism
Oh and this game has plasma rifles, railguns etc.
I think its safe to say this game wasn't realistic to begin with
Fear The Tribes // In Rust We Trust // Standings Minmatar 6 // Minmatar Logibro //
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.03.22 20:29:00 -
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yeah--theres no point in high move speed if you can get killed by a fool spraying until they hit you once so that you slow down and then lock onto you. HMG is by far the worst though. And glitches terrain is pretty ******* annoying too
Kills-Archduke Ferdinand
Balance!
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Tectonic Fusion
1271
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Posted - 2014.03.22 21:01:00 -
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All I know is if the slow-down effect and bullet magnetism were removed, then I could easily dodge aim assisted weapons.
Solo Player
Squad status: Locked
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ROMULUS H3X
research lab
87
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Posted - 2014.03.22 21:08:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Not, and I repeat, NOT aim assist.
It's the speed reduction on hit.
That's a stupid mechanic that HAS TO GO RIGHT NOW, like tomorrow, in a hotfix, gone, nobody will miss it.
It gives high fire rate weaponry too much of an advantage, it makes it so that a single hit means your speedy suit is dead.
HMG, Combat Rifle, Assault Combat Rifle, they all become absurd when this mechanic is brought in.
I couldn't agree more. This mechanic ruins the gameplay. I even tried to make a thread like this the first week they introduced this and a CPM tried to tell me that there is no Impulse effect that slows us down and that i am imagining this or that I was lagging.......... shows you how much CPMs actually play this game..
FORGE/FLAYLOCK/FISTS--NUFF SED
YOU SHALL NOT CATCH ME FOR I AM THE GINGERBREAD FATMAN
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Ivy Zalinto
Bobbit's Hangmen
339
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Posted - 2014.03.22 21:12:00 -
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We slow down when were hit? Is that why I die so much when i think im around a corner!?
Speed tanking should be a viable option in all honesty. Otherwise there really is no point in running a scout if everything is medium suit speed and slower.
Dedicated Stealth Scout.
Scout instructor; Learning Coalition
Sidearms are terribly underestimated.
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darkiller240
WarRavens
League of Infamy
616
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Posted - 2014.03.22 21:16:00 -
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remove
ONLY ON SCOUTS!
"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein
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Tectonic Fusion
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Posted - 2014.03.22 22:15:00 -
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darkiller240 wrote:remove
ONLY ON SCOUTS!
So kin cats would be pointless on medium frames? 
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Solo Player
Squad status: Locked
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Haerr
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
376
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Posted - 2014.03.22 22:29:00 -
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Snaring effects, sprint bugs and terrain glitches, I hate them all. Please make them go away.
Fun fact! The sprint bug is easily reproducible through these steps:
Hold down shift.
Hold down W.
Press the right mouse button.
Release the right mouse button.
Congratulations, you are now moving as fast as a heavy walks while your stamina is being drained! Oh this can happen when you fire a weapon or equipement as well. Fun stuff, fun stuff, no?
Before the "fix" to sprint-cancelling the post-fire animation of weapons and equipment (active scanners especially) you would just go back to sprinting.
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