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Varoth Drac
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.03.21 12:35:00 -
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I can see the OP's point of view but there are a few reasons why I believe he's incorrect.
As you have stated you are using a more assault-scout style. There is nothing wrong with that. However, firstly it shouldn't be the only way to play as a scout, and secondly there are a couple of issues that need considering about assault scouts.
Firstly - strafing
Aim assist has been toned down recently making it more possible for scouts to avoid damage than it used to be. So the situation is a bit better for scouts now than in the past and this is one reason there is less scout QQ.
More importantly, scout's strafe advantage is amplified by players that are particularly good at strafing. I'd wager you are one of those players, which is great but a more average player such as myself will struggle much more with an assault scout than you simply because I don't have excellent strafing skills, leading you to believe the suit is balanced when it isn't.
Secondly - basic plates/brick tanking.
I believe basic plates are too easy to fit and have too little speed penalty. This means that there is almost no point fitting anything else in your low slots. Everyone should just be a moderately brick tanked assault suit with a rep hive. You can use a scout suit if you like and you will do well trading some hp for strafe speed and scanner avoidance. Trouble is this is boring, people want to play with different styles using different low slots. Scout should be an excellent suit for facilitating use of play styles other than assault. I agree that killing is the primary goal of most players but it's the way that is achieved I am talking about. For example, instead of your very successful scout-assault build someone might want to fit biotics and dampeners, flank round behind the enemy, shotgun them in the back and then escape before retaliation. These kinds of alternative play-styles that scouts should be good at are underpowered.
So in summary:
- It would be nice if the suit rewarded brains as well as just great controller skill that isn't available to the majority of players.
- Play-styles/fitting other than brick-assault-assaults/logis/scouts should be viable.
Additional note on sp cost:
This issue of being skill intensive is to do with scanning and being scanned. Not such a problem if you are an assault-scout, but if you want to play the stealth game as many do, you need a high amount of sp to remain hidden from scanners and be able to detect others. 1.8 is addressing these issues. What 1.8 is not helping is the high sp cost of biotics, shields (you need complex) and cloaks (you need scout level 4/5), but well, you can't have everything I guess.
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Varoth Drac
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.03.21 15:05:00 -
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You don't seem to have acknowledged the points about alternative play styles. But anyway, I think the only thing to do is to get a proto Gal scout, armor up, get a rifle and see how I get on. I suspect the results will be underwhelming.
At least you acknowledge that min scouts look UP. |
Varoth Drac
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.03.22 14:45:00 -
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So I did as I said, I skilled into galente scout, stuck 3 enhanced plates and a repper on it and combat rifled people. Went 25-8. Not bad for me, though not amazing considering it was a proto suit against mostly std and adv. Was a close game though so they weren't noobs. Also I had loads of fitting space left since I don't have a proto rifle, repper or nanohive.
I didnt feel like the strafing was great though, neither was the speed. Stealth, passive scan and stamina were good though. Ironically I found myself particularly vulnerable to shotgun min scouts.
Obviously I need to play more games but I don't think the suit was any better than an assault, which could probably do the job more effectively. I think the real conclusions are that rifles, armor tanking and the assault role are op compared to more stealth and speed play. Not that scouts are fine. The proto gelente scout does make a great stealth assault suit though. As would a cal assault with a dampener and a cardiac regulator. I normally play minmatar scout with a shotgun, a play style that is more distinct from assault and is slightly underpowered. This is the reason for the scout buff, not because scouts can't be light assaults. |
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