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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
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Posted - 2014.03.21 06:18:00 -
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In the Gal-Matar, Cal-Amarr sense, not the player sense.
From my limited understanding of the lore, the Gallente and Amarr have been at loggerheads since they met each other.
The Caldari and Gallente have been at war for centuries.
Why is the general political situation of New Eden so stagnant?
I would have liked to see, for example, even somewhere in the lore, a place where the Caldari and Gallente had even a temporary ceasefire and worked together against, say, the Amarr. Who may or may not have been involved with the Minmatar in a less shackles-and-chains sense. Now, I don't mean that New Eden should suddenly become lovey-dovey and full of 'carebears', but hat the political situations in each empire are so stagnant?
I just reread Empyrean Age and Templar One (don't ask me why. I regret it already) and it seems that each faction has it's own organisation, either official or otherwise, that is psychopathically hell-bent on the utter ruin of their opposition. (e.g. Templis Dragonaurs)
Why is there no opposite faction, for example?
Why are there so few actually and actively committed to military peace in New Eden? In a real sense, not in an 'Emperor Heideran' sense - despite his good wishes Amarr are still in a cataclysmic war with the Minmatar.
I don't buy that.
I can't think of any point in actual history where a civilisation has been so utterly set against another. Ever.
I can't see how such a situation could exist. Eventually, universally, something breaks. One side loses its drive, or both. One side overwhelms the other, or a peace occurs.
But it doesn't seem like that's the case in New Eden.
Am I missing something? Or are the loremasters of EVE just bad writers?
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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.03.21 06:20:00 -
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I stopped reading after you said Gallente and Caldari should have a cease fire. Do you not know what the Gallente has done to the Caldari? The Caldari will NEVER forget that.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
2233
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Posted - 2014.03.21 06:26:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:I stopped reading after you said Gallente and Caldari should have a cease fire. Do you not know what the Gallente has done to the Caldari? The Caldari will NEVER forget that.
I don't care about your lore.
There is no such thing as an 'unrightable wrong'. There is no such thing as 'we will never forget that'. Eventually someone smooths it over because pointless, irrational hatred is a waste of time.
If you actually finished reading, I don't care about your alliance.
I want to know, after hundreds and hundreds of years, why one side or both is not utterly, utterly tired of war. That is not reasonable.
That is not human.
That is breaking my suspension of reality, and prevents me from taking this lore seriously.
New Eden's history is written like "oh hey guys, wouldn't it be cool if we had these guys who used robots to fight? Oh, and they fucked these other guys right off, so much that they're gonna fight for like, ever, man. Woah, wouldn't that be sweet as?"
Please, give me a reason that isn't your ridiculous 'no but Gallente ate my baby! Twice!'.
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
1594
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Posted - 2014.03.21 06:29:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Michael Arck wrote:I stopped reading after you said Gallente and Caldari should have a cease fire. Do you not know what the Gallente has done to the Caldari? The Caldari will NEVER forget that. I don't care about your lore. There is no such thing as an 'unrightable wrong'. There is no such thing as 'we will never forget that'. Eventually someone smooths it over because pointless, irrational hatred is a waste of time. If you actually finished reading, I don't care about your alliance. I want to know, after hundreds and hundreds of years, why one side or both is not utterly, utterly tired of war. That is not reasonable. That is not human. That is breaking my suspension of reality, and prevents me from taking this lore seriously. New Eden's history is written like "oh hey guys, wouldn't it be cool if we had these guys who used robots to fight? Oh, and they fu cked these other guys right off, so much that they're gonna fight for like, ever, man. Woah, wouldn't that be sweet as?" Please, give me a reason that isn't your ridiculous 'no but Gallente ate my baby! Twice!'.
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SPESHULz
The Southern Legion
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Posted - 2014.03.21 06:30:00 -
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As always Independence day provides the answer.
Amarr are the glorious aliens invading
Minmatar all the people getting blown up by lasers
Galente are the government asking for peace when there can be no peace
And the caldari are the corporations making all the money with mercenaries and rebuliding \fter the movie finishes
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Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
830
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Posted - 2014.03.21 06:32:00 -
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Peace, Kirjuun. I will answer his question.
Lorhak, The reason is because this is not like modern Earth. We have an unstable variety, because w have unstable governments.
The governments in New Eden are stable. They change very little in the centuries. So, their hatreds will survive for ages.
As for Cal-Gal war, there have been cease-fires and every time, the Gallente has tried to turn us into something we are not. Instead of following their own tenet of respectiing other cultures, they try to destroy ours.
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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.03.21 06:39:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Michael Arck wrote:I stopped reading after you said Gallente and Caldari should have a cease fire. Do you not know what the Gallente has done to the Caldari? The Caldari will NEVER forget that. I don't care about your lore. There is no such thing as an 'unrightable wrong'. There is no such thing as 'we will never forget that'. Eventually someone smooths it over because pointless, irrational hatred is a waste of time. If you actually finished reading, I don't care about your alliance. I want to know, after hundreds and hundreds of years, why one side or both is not utterly, utterly tired of war. That is not reasonable. That is not human. That is breaking my suspension of reality, and prevents me from taking this lore seriously. New Eden's history is written like "oh hey guys, wouldn't it be cool if we had these guys who used robots to fight? Oh, and they fu cked these other guys right off, so much that they're gonna fight for like, ever, man. Woah, wouldn't that be sweet as?" Please, give me a reason that isn't your ridiculous 'no but Gallente ate my baby! Twice!'.
It's not my lore, brainchild, its theirs. And if you know anything about the Caldari, then you would know that Gallente and Caldari would never align.
I don't need to give you a reason, really, just who heck are you?
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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.03.21 06:44:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote:Peace, Kirjuun. I will answer his question.
Lorhak, The reason is because this is not like modern Earth. We have an unstable variety, because w have unstable governments.
The governments in New Eden are stable. They change very little in the centuries. So, their hatreds will survive for ages.
As for Cal-Gal war, there have been cease-fires and every time, the Gallente has tried to turn us into something we are not. Instead of following their own tenet of respectiing other cultures, they try to destroy ours.
ROFL! Learning the way of Arck, eh?
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Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
832
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Posted - 2014.03.21 06:45:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Luna Angelo wrote:Peace, Kirjuun. I will answer his question.
Lorhak, The reason is because this is not like modern Earth. We have an unstable variety, because w have unstable governments.
The governments in New Eden are stable. They change very little in the centuries. So, their hatreds will survive for ages.
As for Cal-Gal war, there have been cease-fires and every time, the Gallente has tried to turn us into something we are not. Instead of following their own tenet of respectiing other cultures, they try to destroy ours. ROFL! Learning the way of Arck, eh? No, Brother, but the way of the pirate. I am now claiming my right as an immortal to be a privateer for the Caldari military.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
2233
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Posted - 2014.03.21 07:07:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote:Peace, Kirjuun. I will answer his question.
Lorhak, The reason is because this is not like modern Earth. We have an unstable variety, because w have unstable governments.
The governments in New Eden are stable. They change very little in the centuries. So, their hatreds will survive for ages.
As for Cal-Gal war, there have been cease-fires and every time, the Gallente has tried to turn us into something we are not. Instead of following their own tenet of respectiing other cultures, they try to destroy ours.
I appreciate that, but it isn't even related to governmental stability.
I'm talking about factional stability. The Roman Empire lasted for centuries, but its political attitudes changed all the time, as was expedient.
I just don't see how it's reasonable that the factions are so static.
I apologise for my brusqueness, Michael, it wasn't what I intended to say.
But what I'm talking about isn't directly lore related. I'm referring more to the underpinnings of the lore, and what it is exactly that somehow in a galaxy far far away we have not one, but four civilisations that are implausibly stable and irrationally focused on a single goal, that being the total subjugation of a particular other faction.
That just seems really weak from a literary perspective.
I suppose it could be justified by saying 'but Jove' or something, and there is an example of supposed divine interaction deep in the Amarr history which could imply direction beyond the empires' explicit influences, but even so, that just seems like hand waving.
I suppose that my complaint is that the lore is like a brackish pool; it looks like it could be deep, because you can't see the bottom, but when you put your foot in... it's only knee deep. It just seems like a really lazy justification of the state of (controlled, I know) total war we have currently in New Eden.
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Oswald Rehnquist
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Posted - 2014.03.21 07:09:00 -
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The only thing you have that I agree with is that, no one will fall, give up, or fracture in this fictional war, but considering the implications of that in game (not saying you were wanting this), it would make things a bit awkward.
In regards to the continuous conflict (until destroyed), it makes perfect sense to me at any rate, from a real world international relations standpoint.
An environment (was about to say world) with 2 super powers consistently spells out war until one breaks. An environment consisting of 3 (or 1) super powers generally opts for peace. Peace is not so much an ideological concept more so than international stability, that no one is wanting to challenge the power structure.
New Eden is dominated by the Ammar/Cal super alliance and the Gal/Min Super alliance which would spell out war. You'd have to break this into 3 very threatening and independent factions, or one clear cut winner.
I think the perfect example of this would be the cold war (2 super power world), compared to either the Roman Empire or the current dominance of the US, which on a relative scale were peaceful, not that a few fingers weren't cracked every so often but the massive energy to war was/is not needed (and thus peace is highly advocated)
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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.03.21 07:09:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Luna Angelo wrote:Peace, Kirjuun. I will answer his question.
Lorhak, The reason is because this is not like modern Earth. We have an unstable variety, because w have unstable governments.
The governments in New Eden are stable. They change very little in the centuries. So, their hatreds will survive for ages.
As for Cal-Gal war, there have been cease-fires and every time, the Gallente has tried to turn us into something we are not. Instead of following their own tenet of respectiing other cultures, they try to destroy ours. I appreciate that, but it isn't even related to governmental stability. I'm talking about factional stability. The Roman Empire lasted for centuries, but its political attitudes changed all the time, as was expedient. I just don't see how it's reasonable that the factions are so static. I apologise for my brusqueness, Michael, it wasn't what I intended to say. But what I'm talking about isn't directly lore related. I'm referring more to the underpinnings of the lore, and what it is exactly that somehow in a galaxy far far away we have not one, but four civilisations that are implausibly stable and irrationally focused on a single goal, that being the total subjugation of a particular other faction. That just seems really weak from a literary perspective. I suppose it could be justified by saying 'but Jove' or something, and there is an example of supposed divine interaction deep in the Amarr history which could imply direction beyond the empires' explicit influences, but even so, that just seems like hand waving. I suppose that my complaint is that the lore is like a brackish pool; it looks like it could be deep, because you can't see the bottom, but when you put your foot in... it's only knee deep. It just seems like a really lazy justification of the state of (controlled, I know) total war we have currently in New Eden.
Excuse my confusion Lorhak. The meaning was lost in context.
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Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
832
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Posted - 2014.03.21 07:11:00 -
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Ok, another statement, then. The US and Great Britain are allies but didn't used to be. That is your scenario.
My scenario is the US and France. When the US was not the US yet,, we were at war, but since we became independent, France has been our ally. That is over 200 years ago. And it has not changed, at all, in that time. That is the alliances in New Eden.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
8572
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Posted - 2014.03.21 07:16:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:In the Gal-Matar, Cal-Amarr sense, not the player sense.
From my limited understanding of the lore, the Gallente and Amarr have been at loggerheads since they met each other.
The Caldari and Gallente have been at war for centuries.
Why is the general political situation of New Eden so stagnant?
I would have liked to see, for example, even somewhere in the lore, a place where the Caldari and Gallente had even a temporary ceasefire and worked together against, say, the Amarr. Who may or may not have been involved with the Minmatar in a less shackles-and-chains sense. Now, I don't mean that New Eden should suddenly become lovey-dovey and full of 'carebears', but hat the political situations in each empire are so stagnant?
I just reread Empyrean Age and Templar One (don't ask me why. I regret it already) and it seems that each faction has it's own organisation, either official or otherwise, that is psychopathically hell-bent on the utter ruin of their opposition. (e.g. Templis Dragonaurs)
Why is there no opposite faction, for example?
Why are there so few actually and actively committed to military peace in New Eden? In a real sense, not in an 'Emperor Heideran' sense - despite his good wishes Amarr are still in a cataclysmic war with the Minmatar.
I don't buy that.
I can't think of any point in actual history where a civilisation has been so utterly set against another. Ever.
I can't see how such a situation could exist. Eventually, universally, something breaks. One side loses its drive, or both. One side overwhelms the other, or a peace occurs.
But it doesn't seem like that's the case in New Eden.
Am I missing something? Or are the loremasters of EVE just bad writers?
Its not so simply as one side allying with another Lorhak.
If any one side makes a move or play it is not just a matter of retuning things to normal a few month later......... even the single slightest political shift in power that gives one Empire more of less power, and an opportune moment to use it would trigger a massive cluster wide conflict that could rage of decades.......and in the midst if that kind of chaos......who else would take advantage.
The main point I am trying to make is that there is no benefit to inciting such a conflict......it would drag out for a long time.....and what would be left?
Could one Empire garner enough power to ensure their victory? No....no they could not.
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.03.21 07:17:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:In the Gal-Matar, Cal-Amarr sense, not the player sense.
From my limited understanding of the lore, the Gallente and Amarr have been at loggerheads since they met each other.
The Caldari and Gallente have been at war for centuries.
Why is the general political situation of New Eden so stagnant?
I would have liked to see, for example, even somewhere in the lore, a place where the Caldari and Gallente had even a temporary ceasefire and worked together against, say, the Amarr. Who may or may not have been involved with the Minmatar in a less shackles-and-chains sense. Now, I don't mean that New Eden should suddenly become lovey-dovey and full of 'carebears', but hat the political situations in each empire are so stagnant?
I just reread Empyrean Age and Templar One (don't ask me why. I regret it already) and it seems that each faction has it's own organisation, either official or otherwise, that is psychopathically hell-bent on the utter ruin of their opposition. (e.g. Templis Dragonaurs)
Why is there no opposite faction, for example?
Why are there so few actually and actively committed to military peace in New Eden? In a real sense, not in an 'Emperor Heideran' sense - despite his good wishes Amarr are still in a cataclysmic war with the Minmatar.
I don't buy that.
I can't think of any point in actual history where a civilisation has been so utterly set against another. Ever.
I can't see how such a situation could exist. Eventually, universally, something breaks. One side loses its drive, or both. One side overwhelms the other, or a peace occurs.
But it doesn't seem like that's the case in New Eden.
Am I missing something? Or are the loremasters of EVE just bad writers? Its not so simply as one side allying with another Lorhak. If any one side makes a move or play it is not just a matter of retuning things to normal a few month later......... even the single slightest political shift in power that gives one Empire more of less power, and an opportune moment to use it would trigger a massive cluster wide conflict that could rage of decades.......and in the midst if that kind of chaos......who else would take advantage. The main point I am trying to make is that there is no benefit to inciting such a conflict......it would drag out for a long time.....and what would be left? Could one Empire garner enough power to ensure their victory? No....no they could not.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
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Posted - 2014.03.21 07:19:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote:Ok, another statement, then. The US and Great Britain are allies but didn't used to be. That is your scenario.
My scenario is the US and France. When the US was not the US yet,, we were at war, but since we became independent, France has been our ally. That is over 200 years ago. And it has not changed, at all, in that time. That is the alliances in New Eden.
This is true.
I'm not talking about alliances, though, not really. The fact that the intractable wars have continued for so long, really, is my bone of contention. I can't think of a situation where a war has carried on for such a long period of time.
Again, it's not really the alliances, but the fact that the civilisations have existed in such similar forms for tens of thousands of years. Now, I don't really have a problem with this per se, but it does seem implausible that four civilisations, let alone one, would achieve such complete and total mastery.
The Amarr has the least plausible backstory, in my opinion, where the Cal-Gal have a much more plausible one, so there is that.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.03.21 07:23:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Luna Angelo wrote:Ok, another statement, then. The US and Great Britain are allies but didn't used to be. That is your scenario.
My scenario is the US and France. When the US was not the US yet,, we were at war, but since we became independent, France has been our ally. That is over 200 years ago. And it has not changed, at all, in that time. That is the alliances in New Eden. This is true. I'm not talking about alliances, though, not really. The fact that the intractable wars have continued for so long, really, is my bone of contention. I can't think of a situation where a war has carried on for such a long period of time. Again, it's not really the alliances, but the fact that the civilisations have existed in such similar forms for tens of thousands of years. Now, I don't really have a problem with this per se, but it does seem implausible that four civilisations, let alone one, would achieve such complete and total mastery. The Amarr has the least plausible backstory, in my opinion, where the Cal-Gal have a much more plausible one, so there is that.
Lorhak none of New Edens societies can be directly compared to any of our own......we as players have comparatively little information presented to us about them in terms of culture......
As such we cannot disregard lore.
In an environment where we are educated in our respective cultures a cycle of hate is hard to break.....and contrary to what you think Lorhak yes there are many unforgivable actions that have happened in New Eden that given the cultural climate understandably could not be reconciled.
Remember Lorhak these are heroes of villans in New Eden.....they are just people. That's it. Nothing more and nothing less than people.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
2233
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Posted - 2014.03.21 07:25:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Luna Angelo wrote:Ok, another statement, then. The US and Great Britain are allies but didn't used to be. That is your scenario.
My scenario is the US and France. When the US was not the US yet,, we were at war, but since we became independent, France has been our ally. That is over 200 years ago. And it has not changed, at all, in that time. That is the alliances in New Eden. This is true. I'm not talking about alliances, though, not really. The fact that the intractable wars have continued for so long, really, is my bone of contention. I can't think of a situation where a war has carried on for such a long period of time. Again, it's not really the alliances, but the fact that the civilisations have existed in such similar forms for tens of thousands of years. Now, I don't really have a problem with this per se, but it does seem implausible that four civilisations, let alone one, would achieve such complete and total mastery. The Amarr has the least plausible backstory, in my opinion, where the Cal-Gal have a much more plausible one, so there is that. Lorhak none of New Edens societies can be directly compared to any of our own......we as players have comparatively little information presented to us about them in terms of culture...... As such we cannot disregard lore. In an environment where we are educated in our respective cultures a cycle of hate is hard to break.....and contrary to what you think Lorhak yes there are many unforgivable actions that have happened in New Eden that given the cultural climate understandably could not be reconciled. Remember Lorhak these are heroes of villans in New Eden.....they are just people. That's it. Nothing more and nothing less than people.
This is actually part of it, tbh.
It just seems like a hand waving of history to justify current events.
Anyway, sorry guys, I'm starting to get a bit confused as to what exactly I mean.
I'll think about it and come back later :) Maybe I'll have a more coherent argument then :P
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.03.21 07:29:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:True Adamance wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Luna Angelo wrote:Ok, another statement, then. The US and Great Britain are allies but didn't used to be. That is your scenario.
My scenario is the US and France. When the US was not the US yet,, we were at war, but since we became independent, France has been our ally. That is over 200 years ago. And it has not changed, at all, in that time. That is the alliances in New Eden. This is true. I'm not talking about alliances, though, not really. The fact that the intractable wars have continued for so long, really, is my bone of contention. I can't think of a situation where a war has carried on for such a long period of time. Again, it's not really the alliances, but the fact that the civilisations have existed in such similar forms for tens of thousands of years. Now, I don't really have a problem with this per se, but it does seem implausible that four civilisations, let alone one, would achieve such complete and total mastery. The Amarr has the least plausible backstory, in my opinion, where the Cal-Gal have a much more plausible one, so there is that. Lorhak none of New Edens societies can be directly compared to any of our own......we as players have comparatively little information presented to us about them in terms of culture...... As such we cannot disregard lore. In an environment where we are educated in our respective cultures a cycle of hate is hard to break.....and contrary to what you think Lorhak yes there are many unforgivable actions that have happened in New Eden that given the cultural climate understandably could not be reconciled. Remember Lorhak these are heroes of villans in New Eden.....they are just people. That's it. Nothing more and nothing less than people. This is actually part of it, tbh. It just seems like a hand waving of history to justify current events. Anyway, sorry guys, I'm starting to get a bit confused as to what exactly I mean. I'll think about it and come back later :) Maybe I'll have a more coherent argument then :P
Only thing I have more to contribute is that you cannot conceivably convince trillions of people to let go of their preconceived notions and beliefs over something so trivial as governments making nice with one another.
I mean if the country of Lorhakland invaded murdered and entire generation of people, tortured and ........, salted the earth, stuck babies on pikes and shat all over my car........ maybe 20 years the people of Adamantia would certainly not forgive of forget those wrongs simply because I told them to as their Emperor
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Rizlax Yazzax
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.21 07:59:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote:Peace, Kirjuun. I will answer his question.
Lorhak, The reason is because this is not like modern Earth. We have an unstable variety, because w have unstable governments.
The governments in New Eden are stable. They change very little in the centuries. So, their hatreds will survive for ages.
As for Cal-Gal war, there have been cease-fires and every time, the Gallente has tried to turn us into something we are not. Instead of following their own tenet of respectiing other cultures, they try to destroy ours.
Plus the fact that pretty much everyone fighting in the wars is immortal.Hard to let grudges go when there's no real loss of life and the enemy has been destroying your hard earned assets for years. |
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.03.21 09:22:00 -
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Its more complicated than that.
All the empires are at odds with each other but cannot move without being mincemeat to the other or the capsuleers.
Meanwhile business are business and will do their own thing despite government stance such as alloteck building everyone else's gear. Deep Core Mining having plenty of outposts in gallente space. Or Quafe becomming the most popular softdrink in all of new eden. Or how Iskhone is more sympathetic with the better parts of the Gallente nature and are more willing to work with them.
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Auris Lionesse
Capital Acquisitions LLC
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Posted - 2014.03.21 09:27:00 -
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Caldari should team with gallente and kick out the disgusting rustdwellers.
It's time for caldari to come home to the masterrace. Gray and blue green go together better than brown.
Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles!
Heroes in a half Gank!
TURTLE POWER!!!
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