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N1ck Comeau
Ahrendee Mercenaries
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.20 21:59:00 -
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Alright, so yes, i'm bringing up that topic. Yes, i'm beating a dead horse,but i'm doing it anyways.
So, my first thoughts on these, well, pretty much everyone's first thought when they hear "flashbang" is, a device that impairs vision and hearing.
In a game like dust, where deaths matter more than just on the stat page not being able to see, or hear for a period of time may be considered "OP"
Let me provide you with my personal definition of a flashbang.
A flashbang is a device that is required to be thrown, either exploding on impact, or requiring to be "cooked" like a frag grenade. Often used to give you the edge in a 1v1 firefight, or for breaching and clearing a room. They make things like this more tactical. A room may seem impossible to get into, but throw a flashbang, and the situation changes.
I propose multiple variants of a flashbang. A contact flashbang, not as much "bang" but is faster.
A "cooking" variant. More bang, slower boom time.
I definitely don't want these devices to be spammable. Slow to use, and to throw. Takes 2-3 from the time of hitting the trigger for the time it hits the ground.
Basic flashes will flash for only 1 second before vision is 100% normal.
Advanced flashes will stun for 2.5 seconds before vision is 100% normal.
Proto flashes add in a hearing discharge effect. 3.5 seconds of impaired vision, along with 5-10 seconds on loud high pitched ringing in your ears.
All flash bangs have a 8 meter radius. Effects are more powerful near the center, if it blows up in your face, it amplifies the effect by double. The farther away you are though, the weaker the effects. when in the 3 meter edge radius, flashbangs only do 50% efficiency.
Flashbangs will be pretty high in CPU, around 20 for basic, 35, for advanced, 50 for proto, but pretty low for PG. 2, 5, 8.
Additional info
You can stun yourself if too close. within 4 meters of the explosion.
You can bounce them off walls.
They go in the grenade slot.
You can only carry 2.
[*] Replenished from nanohives and supply depots.
Tankers- 'Hit us when are hardeners are down"
Proceeds to run three hardeners.
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N1ck Comeau
Ahrendee Mercenaries
General Tso's Alliance
2335
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Posted - 2014.03.20 22:30:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:Since we are fully enclosed in dropsuits that can screen out such things as flashbangs and limit how much they impact our hearing, they wouldn't really be effective against us.
That said, some kind of EWAR system that makes our screens short out for a few seconds would be within reason.
Not just one aspect of technology advances. The suits got more advanced. So would flashbangs.
They wouldn't even have to be called flashbangs, just something that mimics the effects i listed.
Tankers- 'Hit us when are hardeners are down"
Proceeds to run three hardeners.
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N1ck Comeau
Ahrendee Mercenaries
General Tso's Alliance
2336
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Posted - 2014.03.21 02:39:00 -
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safura trotsky wrote:No thanks. I'd rather not have a headache and strain my eyes
haha, it's not gonna kill you.
Tankers- 'Hit us when are hardeners are down"
Proceeds to run three hardeners.
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N1ck Comeau
Ahrendee Mercenaries
General Tso's Alliance
2336
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Posted - 2014.03.21 03:07:00 -
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MoonEagle A wrote:They were so annoying in MAG!
Never played, there annoying in call of duty, but balanced due to long throw time
Tankers- 'Hit us when are hardeners are down"
Proceeds to run three hardeners.
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N1ck Comeau
Ahrendee Mercenaries
General Tso's Alliance
2336
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Posted - 2014.03.21 03:23:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:1 second of blindness is nothing. By the time I pull me gun up they would have there vision back
It should be 5 seconds for all versions and blast radius increases by tier.
5 seconds is crazy long. 1 second is a quick stun. I mean total blindness for 1 second. It may not seem long, but it can win a gunfight for you.
Tankers- 'Hit us when are hardeners are down"
Proceeds to run three hardeners.
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N1ck Comeau
Ahrendee Mercenaries
General Tso's Alliance
2337
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Posted - 2014.03.21 05:30:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:N1ck Comeau wrote:Dexter307 wrote:1 second of blindness is nothing. By the time I pull me gun up they would have there vision back
It should be 5 seconds for all versions and blast radius increases by tier. 5 seconds is crazy long. 1 second is a quick stun. I mean total blindness for 1 second. It may not seem long, but it can win a gunfight for you. You would have to be right next to them to have it be any useHitting them with a locus or flux grenade would help in a 1v1 more
Just more of a reason to use advanced level or higher.
Tankers- 'Hit us when are hardeners are down"
Proceeds to run three hardeners.
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N1ck Comeau
Ahrendee Mercenaries
General Tso's Alliance
2337
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Posted - 2014.03.21 15:29:00 -
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Thank you.
Tankers- 'Hit us when are hardeners are down"
Proceeds to run three hardeners.
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N1ck Comeau
Ahrendee Mercenaries
General Tso's Alliance
2338
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Posted - 2014.03.21 16:36:00 -
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noob cavman wrote:1 second? *pats shotgun* Il take 50 
haha. Some think one second is to short, but, it's a long time in a multiplayer game. Especially with guns that can kill you in less time.
Tankers- 'Hit us when are hardeners are down"
Proceeds to run three hardeners.
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N1ck Comeau
Ahrendee Mercenaries
2340
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Posted - 2014.03.23 16:41:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:Wouldn't our suits negate effectiveness of a flash-bang in general, not knocking the idea but I think our suits wouldn't allow something like that to actually get to the user's eyes in the first place.
They found a way to get through. Don't question it.
Tankers- 'Hit us when are hardeners are down"
Proceeds to run three hardeners.
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N1ck Comeau
Ahrendee Mercenaries
2341
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Posted - 2014.03.23 20:30:00 -
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wiseguy12 wrote:N1ck Comeau wrote:noob cavman wrote:1 second? *pats shotgun* Il take 50 haha. Some think one second is to short, but, it's a long time in a multiplayer game. Especially with guns that can kill you in less time. TTK is getting increased in 1.8. But i would say that grenade that causes a visor malfunction would be more believable and they would be made by minmatar
I don't care about the lore of the grenade or how it would logically make sense to affect our suit.
Tankers- 'Hit us when are hardeners are down"
Proceeds to run three hardeners.
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N1ck Comeau
Ahrendee Mercenaries
2341
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Posted - 2014.03.23 20:54:00 -
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Scalesdini wrote:I'd like to see flashbangs and smoke grenades put in personally.
I'll be making a thread on Smoke grenades sometime this week.
I love them as well
Tankers- 'Hit us when are hardeners are down"
Proceeds to run three hardeners.
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N1ck Comeau
Ahrendee Mercenaries
2355
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Posted - 2014.03.24 09:49:00 -
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wiseguy12 wrote:N1ck Comeau wrote:wiseguy12 wrote:N1ck Comeau wrote:noob cavman wrote:1 second? *pats shotgun* Il take 50 haha. Some think one second is to short, but, it's a long time in a multiplayer game. Especially with guns that can kill you in less time. TTK is getting increased in 1.8. But i would say that grenade that causes a visor malfunction would be more believable and they would be made by minmatar I don't care about the lore of the grenade or how it would logically make sense to affect our suit. I was saying that simply for when a dev would read it and help them out. Also i would call them scrambler grenades.
Most things scrambler are amarr.
Tankers- 'Hit us when are hardeners are down"
Proceeds to run three hardeners.
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