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Faquira Bleuetta
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.20 20:03:00 -
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amarr scout is a joke suit mainly for tryhard to bragging right.
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Faquira Bleuetta
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.20 22:28:00 -
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Drapedup Drippedout wrote:True Adamance wrote:Luna Angelo wrote:Because the Amarr ARE fighters. They are SUPPOSED to stand toe-to-toe with things better than the other races.
BTW, Caldari will be the best Hunter-Killer. That is not at all our racial design. Our racial design is endurance, this bonus reflects that, but in terms of in game balance the numbers do not stack up. But with only 30 more HP, less than one round, low speed, etc how do we stand up to them better? Amarr have almost all the same ship variants any other race does in EVE and are not necessarily designed more of less for combat. In other words, "why are the amarr not the best at everything?" Quit the QQ. You have the best assault suit, the best CQC heavy, the single most important logi (uplinks), and now you are demanding the best scout? HTFU. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_HT09oh7Jzwk/TQ5BFHnovHI/AAAAAAAAAWs/h2KquhgDevQ/s1600/stfu2.jpg#Stfu%20meme
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Faquira Bleuetta
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.20 22:29:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote:True Adamance wrote:Luna Angelo wrote:True Adamance wrote:Luna Angelo wrote:Because the Amarr ARE fighters. They are SUPPOSED to stand toe-to-toe with things better than the other races.
BTW, Caldari will be the best Hunter-Killer. That is not at all our racial design. Our racial design is endurance, this bonus reflects that, but in terms of in game balance the numbers do not stack up. But with only 30 more HP, less than one round, low speed, etc how do we stand up to them better? Amarr have almost all the same ship variants any other race does in EVE and are not necessarily designed more of less for combat. No, that IS your racial design. Best toe-to-toe Logi, best toe-to-toe Heavy, arguably the best toe-to-toe Assault, and best toe-to-toe Scout. The bonus makes no sense, but there it is. So you are saying you believe all Amarr content needs to be relegated to combat and not given specialist roles like the other 3 racial groups. Never said that. You still HAVE the specialist role. You're still a scout, you're just better suited than the other scouts to combat. What's to stop you from doing other things with it. Caldari will be the best Hunter-Killer, like it will be with it's other suits (exception of Logi, which will be best for restocking ammo), Gallentes are best at CQC, no matter the class, and Minmatar are the fastest, no matter the class. Amarr will just be the strongest combatants. Nothing more or less than that was my point. And, like I said, the bonus doesn't fit with the philosophy. Remember, Amarr fight for their God, they fight on the front for that reason. Caldari are utilitarian, so they are longer range, as it's more efficient (not effective, but efficient), Gallente prefer being personal, so they will be, and are, the kings of CQC, and Minmatar use hit-and-run, skirmishing tactics, and thus are the fastest suits for that. One-on-one, Min wins, more than that, Amarr will win. Long-range, Caldari wins, up close, Gallente reigns supreme. TL;DR: Amarr are fighters, Caldari are snipers (not the class, the playstyle), Gallentes are CQC, and Minmatar are skirmishers. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_HT09oh7Jzwk/TQ5BFHnovHI/AAAAAAAAAWs/h2KquhgDevQ/s1600/stfu2.jpg#Stfu%20meme
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Faquira Bleuetta
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
300
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Posted - 2014.03.20 22:31:00 -
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Korvin Lomont wrote:To be honest the Amarr scout WILL be a scout, it still has scanrange and more stealth than any assault suit. It is also faster than most suits (only other racial scouts are faster and the most fragile assault suit is marginally faster all other suits are slower).
On top of that the Amarr has by far the best stamina and stamina recovery (even without the skill). And the bonus is incredible usefull if you know what you are doing, my gal scout is always low on stamina as I use stamina 95% the time I am in battle.
So the amarr scout is still a scout it is just more focussed in combat.
The gal comes close but will lack overall mobility in exchange for more long term survivability.
The gals scout bonus is also more situational. The dampening skill is only needed if someone is using a protoscanner or against the gal logi. All basic and std scanners will be beaten by any scout as well as all passive scans (apart from the cal scout with skill bonus).
The gals scan range buff is only halfway usefull as he is lacking precision.
The cal scout will be the walking scanner and perfect skirmisher. His bonuses work well together and strenghten each other. Compared to the gal scout they are more powerful because of that.
The minni scout will be the fast hacker (I still don't know how the knife bonus fits in here this should be switched with the gal scan range bonus or against a sprintspeed bonus).
Out of all scouts the hacking seems to be the most usefull bonus in terms of battle importance (well as long as you play PCG/Skirm or Dom in an ambush this bonus is utterly useless).
So every scout suit bonus is somewhat limited in its usage apart from the amarr bonus as long as you move you can make good use of that bonus....
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Faquira Bleuetta
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
300
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Posted - 2014.03.20 22:35:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:If amarr scout was to be more combat oriented, I would of liked more than 30 +hp or a combat oriented bonus... Like scrambler pistol bonus ! 100 sheild 170 armor 5.39 movement speed 7.55 sprint speed and 5% bonus to stamina ,stamina regen
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Faquira Bleuetta
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
300
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Posted - 2014.03.20 22:40:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote:Faquira Bleuetta wrote:Korvin Lomont wrote:To be honest the Amarr scout WILL be a scout, it still has scanrange and more stealth than any assault suit. It is also faster than most suits (only other racial scouts are faster and the most fragile assault suit is marginally faster all other suits are slower).
On top of that the Amarr has by far the best stamina and stamina recovery (even without the skill). And the bonus is incredible usefull if you know what you are doing, my gal scout is always low on stamina as I use stamina 95% the time I am in battle.
So the amarr scout is still a scout it is just more focussed in combat.
The gal comes close but will lack overall mobility in exchange for more long term survivability.
The gals scout bonus is also more situational. The dampening skill is only needed if someone is using a protoscanner or against the gal logi. All basic and std scanners will be beaten by any scout as well as all passive scans (apart from the cal scout with skill bonus).
The gals scan range buff is only halfway usefull as he is lacking precision.
The cal scout will be the walking scanner and perfect skirmisher. His bonuses work well together and strenghten each other. Compared to the gal scout they are more powerful because of that.
The minni scout will be the fast hacker (I still don't know how the knife bonus fits in here this should be switched with the gal scan range bonus or against a sprintspeed bonus).
Out of all scouts the hacking seems to be the most usefull bonus in terms of battle importance (well as long as you play PCG/Skirm or Dom in an ambush this bonus is utterly useless).
So every scout suit bonus is somewhat limited in its usage apart from the amarr bonus as long as you move you can make good use of that bonus....
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_HT09oh7Jzwk/TQ5BFHnovHI/AAAAAAAAAWs/h2KquhgDevQ/s1600/stfu2.jpg#Stfu%20meme If you're going to be rude, rather than listen to our reasons and THINK (shocking concept, I know), perhaps you shouldn't complain to begin with. I understand your concerns. I even mentioned that the bonus made no sense given the Amarr philosophy. But instead of refuting me, with logic and reason (another shocking concept, I know), you tell me to stfu? How petty. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_HT09oh7Jzwk/TQ5BFHnovHI/AAAAAAAAAWs/h2KquhgDevQ/s1600/stfu2.jpg#Stfu%20meme
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