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Evicer
THE HECATONCHIRES
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Posted - 2014.03.19 13:32:00 -
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A EVE corpmate in my corp informed me yesterday that in EVE our corp standings in relation to The Imperial Guard was a 3.5 . Im curious as to how this is because Last I checked Mine was an 8 or 9. Shouldn't this be higher ? Im just curious as to how this works in relation to my corps standings with Fw and these corps/standings toward each other.
I just thought that was kinda low and if so could he increase it by doing OB's but then again probably not because were in the militia and hes in the 24th. So IMG and Dust side. 24th and EVe side so the 3.5 should be dependent on the Dust players in my corp and there contribution to that number.
So it should be higher......me thinks.
Am I wrong .Thats why im asking and what the mechanics are involved.
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dent 308
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.03.19 13:35:00 -
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I don't think dust faction standings have any effect beyond the individual player, unlike in eve where the faction standing can aggregate for pilots / corps / alliances.
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Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
1320
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Posted - 2014.03.19 13:40:00 -
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And here I was thinking you were trying to request for corps and people to set their own standings on people.
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Evicer
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Posted - 2014.03.19 13:50:00 -
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dent 308 wrote:I don't think dust faction standings have any effect beyond the individual player, unlike in eve where the faction standing can aggregate for pilots / corps / alliances.
Why not .I think fighting and dieing over and over again should raise my corps standings to that empire in EVE>
Floating around a plex all day does .......Im also not speaking about individuals. im referring to The Hecs standings to the Imperial Guard as a whole and that its a 3.5 an d that doesn't correlate with 9 if its going off my efforts.Thats the confusing part.
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1853
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Posted - 2014.03.19 13:53:00 -
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Evicer wrote:dent 308 wrote:I don't think dust faction standings have any effect beyond the individual player, unlike in eve where the faction standing can aggregate for pilots / corps / alliances. Why not .I think fighting and dieing over and over again should raise my corps standings to that empire in EVE> Floating around a plex all day does ....... Yes, however, I would assume that standings towards Dust NPC corps is averaged just the same as they are for Eve NPC corps.
What kind of standings do the rest of your corp have towards Imperial Guard? They're probably dragging your standings down for purposes of corp standings.
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Evicer
THE HECATONCHIRES
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Posted - 2014.03.19 13:57:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Evicer wrote:dent 308 wrote:I don't think dust faction standings have any effect beyond the individual player, unlike in eve where the faction standing can aggregate for pilots / corps / alliances. Why not .I think fighting and dieing over and over again should raise my corps standings to that empire in EVE> Floating around a plex all day does ....... Yes, however, I would assume that standings towards Dust NPC corps is averaged just the same as they are for Eve NPC corps. What kind of standings do the rest of your corp have towards Imperial Guard? They're probably dragging your standings down for purposes of corp standings.
But there not fighting for anyone except the Guard so how is this bring this number down all fights should add to a plus not a negative
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Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
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Posted - 2014.03.19 14:00:00 -
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Evicer wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Evicer wrote:dent 308 wrote:I don't think dust faction standings have any effect beyond the individual player, unlike in eve where the faction standing can aggregate for pilots / corps / alliances. Why not .I think fighting and dieing over and over again should raise my corps standings to that empire in EVE> Floating around a plex all day does ....... Yes, however, I would assume that standings towards Dust NPC corps is averaged just the same as they are for Eve NPC corps. What kind of standings do the rest of your corp have towards Imperial Guard? They're probably dragging your standings down for purposes of corp standings. But there not fighting for anyone except the Guard so how is this bring this number down all fights should add to a plus not a negative Dust standings only relate to the player and have no effect on the corp and no effect on Eve standings.
If your corp has changed standings Eve-side, it 's because of something that your Eve guys have done.
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1853
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Posted - 2014.03.19 14:00:00 -
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Evicer wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Evicer wrote:dent 308 wrote:I don't think dust faction standings have any effect beyond the individual player, unlike in eve where the faction standing can aggregate for pilots / corps / alliances. Why not .I think fighting and dieing over and over again should raise my corps standings to that empire in EVE> Floating around a plex all day does ....... Yes, however, I would assume that standings towards Dust NPC corps is averaged just the same as they are for Eve NPC corps. What kind of standings do the rest of your corp have towards Imperial Guard? They're probably dragging your standings down for purposes of corp standings. But there not fighting for anyone except the Guard so how is this bring this number down all fights should add to a plus not a negative How many capsuleers does your corp have?
They are what is dragging you down more than likely.
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Evicer
THE HECATONCHIRES
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Posted - 2014.03.19 14:00:00 -
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The Hecatonchires standing with The Caldari State are higher and we've fought less battles for them .Unless those standings were based on the Caldari Prime event.
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Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
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Posted - 2014.03.19 14:03:00 -
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Evicer wrote:The Hecatonchires standing with The Caldari State are higher and we've fought less battles for them .Unless those standings were based on the Caldari Prime event. Like I said, doesn't matter what you do Dust-side, your corp standing is entirely related to what your Eve guys do.
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Evicer
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Posted - 2014.03.19 14:03:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Evicer wrote:dent 308 wrote:I don't think dust faction standings have any effect beyond the individual player, unlike in eve where the faction standing can aggregate for pilots / corps / alliances. Why not .I think fighting and dieing over and over again should raise my corps standings to that empire in EVE> Floating around a plex all day does ....... Yes, however, I would assume that standings towards Dust NPC corps is averaged just the same as they are for Eve NPC corps. What kind of standings do the rest of your corp have towards Imperial Guard? They're probably dragging your standings down for purposes of corp standings. Thats the other thing I thought about.Do fighting in Pubs effect this number? As far as NPC Contractors.Say Blood Raiders for example
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Evicer
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Posted - 2014.03.19 14:04:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Evicer wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Evicer wrote:dent 308 wrote:I don't think dust faction standings have any effect beyond the individual player, unlike in eve where the faction standing can aggregate for pilots / corps / alliances. Why not .I think fighting and dieing over and over again should raise my corps standings to that empire in EVE> Floating around a plex all day does ....... Yes, however, I would assume that standings towards Dust NPC corps is averaged just the same as they are for Eve NPC corps. What kind of standings do the rest of your corp have towards Imperial Guard? They're probably dragging your standings down for purposes of corp standings. But there not fighting for anyone except the Guard so how is this bring this number down all fights should add to a plus not a negative How many capsuleers does your corp have? They are what is dragging you down more than likely. 2 both are in the militia one just mines and she stays out of trouble.
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Evicer
THE HECATONCHIRES
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Posted - 2014.03.19 14:10:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:Evicer wrote:The Hecatonchires standing with The Caldari State are higher and we've fought less battles for them .Unless those standings were based on the Caldari Prime event. Like I said, doesn't matter what you do Dust-side, your corp standing is entirely related to what your Eve guys do. ok I get THAT here is what your not understanding.IFTHATS THE CASE WHY IS A 3.5 ?
read the first post.
WHY IS HE SEEING A 3.5 TO THE GUARD IF NEITHER EFFECT EACH OTHER THAN IT SHOULD BE BASED OFF THE DUST PLAYER.HOW IN THE HELL COULD HE GET A 3.5 IN A NPC DUST FW CORP.
Hes not looking at personal standings he looking at corp standings.If corp standings are based off battles that those should be higher.....based off the DUSt players standing. and if ours are higher than that .Then why isnt the number hes seeing higher.?
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Evicer
THE HECATONCHIRES
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Posted - 2014.03.19 14:17:00 -
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Jeezus I hate these forums cnat ever get an answer from anyone official and subjected to mindless numbnuts with no reading comprehension posting in my threads
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dent 308
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.03.19 14:17:00 -
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Faction standing in eve are linked and can follow alliances. If your pilots run missions for a particular corp, this will also effect their faction standings. This same effect flows both ways.
Dust faction standings for mercs do not effect this system.
Many people have tried to explain this, do attempt to be less stupid in the future.
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Standings_mechanics
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Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
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Posted - 2014.03.19 14:44:00 -
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Evicer wrote:Django Quik wrote:Evicer wrote:The Hecatonchires standing with The Caldari State are higher and we've fought less battles for them .Unless those standings were based on the Caldari Prime event. Like I said, doesn't matter what you do Dust-side, your corp standing is entirely related to what your Eve guys do. ok I get THAT here is what your not understanding.IFTHATS THE CASE WHY IS A 3.5 ? read the first post. WHY IS HE SEEING A 3.5 TO THE GUARD IF NEITHER EFFECT EACH OTHER THAN IT SHOULD BE BASED OFF THE DUST PLAYER.HOW IN THE HELL COULD HE GET A 3.5 IN A NPC DUST FW CORP. Hes not looking at personal standings he looking at corp standings.If corp standings are based off battles that those should be higher.....based off the DUSt players standing. and if ours are higher than that .Then why isnt the number hes seeing higher.? CAPLOCK RAGE!
Look, I don't know if english isn't your first language but you're not making a lot of sense.
You say you understand that what happens in Dust doesn't affect your corp's Eve standings but then you sound like you think it does.
Your Eve players will only see your corp's Eve standings, which are not affected by your Dust actions. That 3.5 is your Eve standing. Not knowing anything about your corp, I could not tell you why your Eve standing to Imperial Guard is 3.5 but it is nothing at all to do with what FW your Dust players are playing.
Once again - corp standings are NOT based off your dust players or dust battles or anything dust related at all.
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Evicer
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Posted - 2014.03.20 11:26:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:Evicer wrote:Django Quik wrote:Evicer wrote:The Hecatonchires standing with The Caldari State are higher and we've fought less battles for them .Unless those standings were based on the Caldari Prime event. Like I said, doesn't matter what you do Dust-side, your corp standing is entirely related to what your Eve guys do. ok I get THAT here is what your not understanding.IFTHATS THE CASE WHY IS A 3.5 ? read the first post. WHY IS HE SEEING A 3.5 TO THE GUARD IF NEITHER EFFECT EACH OTHER THAN IT SHOULD BE BASED OFF THE DUST PLAYER.HOW IN THE HELL COULD HE GET A 3.5 IN A NPC DUST FW CORP. Hes not looking at personal standings he looking at corp standings.If corp standings are based off battles that those should be higher.....based off the DUSt players standing. and if ours are higher than that .Then why isnt the number hes seeing higher.? CAPLOCK RAGE! Look, I don't know if english isn't your first language but you're not making a lot of sense. You say you understand that what happens in Dust doesn't affect your corp's Eve standings but then you sound like you think it does. Your Eve players will only see your corp's Eve standings, which are not affected by your Dust actions. That 3.5 is your Eve standing. Not knowing anything about your corp, I could not tell you why your Eve standing to Imperial Guard is 3.5 but it is nothing at all to do with what FW your Dust players are playing. Once again - corp standings are NOT based off your dust players or dust battles or anything dust related at all. you're an idiot...Plain and simple.So brainiack tell me how we have a 3.5 with your brilliant hypothesis.When the Imperial Guard is a DUST NPC FW corp.How is it that the Eve players could have gotten that standing to a 3.5 ? When they cant do anything for the Imperial Guard ? Explain that to me.If this based on nothing.... no EVE in my corp has done any agent missions for the Imperial Guard. OB support gives LP from The 24 th Imperial Crusade. Plexing is all 24th LP
and that is what the original post is about Dumb ass ...If what your saying is correct .Why is there a 3.5 at alll ? That was a rhetorical question so go get bent some where..
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Evicer
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Posted - 2014.03.20 11:46:00 -
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and FW standing either should increase corp standings to Empire or to atleast the corp to whom the NPC corp is based.I could give a **** about agents and mission running to gain standing Im well aware how that works.
Answer me this.Where is the tie in to EVE ? Where does any of the efforts you Do in DUST benefit your Eve side corp at all ?
There still is nothing there...
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Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
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Posted - 2014.03.20 11:56:00 -
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Evicer wrote:.Where is the tie in to EVE ? Where does any of the efforts you Do in DUST benefit your Eve side corp at all ?
You really need to calm down before you get yourself banned.
Very little you do in Dust will benefit your Eve side corp at all.
Apparently, if you hold land in PC, your POSs on that planet get bonuses or something but I don't think anyone has ever actually made use of this.
In FW, winning battles for one side reduces the time taken to plex a system or something like that.
If, as you say, there is nothing you can do Eve side to interact with Imperial Guard, then that's probably just some random value CCP has produced out of nothing.
Now, if you're so hellbent on proving that your Dust FW battles must be affecting your Eve standing somehow, then you're going to have to provide some hard numbers to give us some context to your claim:
Theoretically, if your corp standing was affected by your dust mercs, then I'd imagine that would be done as an average (or perhaps some other function) of your merc's standings. So, what is the Amarr standing of every merc in your corp?
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Evicer
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Posted - 2014.03.20 12:23:00 -
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Quote:You really need to calm down before you get yourself banned. Dont really care if no one official ever answers questions.
Quote:Very little you do in Dust will benefit your Eve side corp at all.
To quote CCP "one universe, one war."
Quote:Apparently, if you hold land in PC, your POSs on that planet get bonuses or something but I don't think anyone has ever actually made use of this. Cant put a POS on a planet only moons. Only POCOs can be installed above planets.Get educated about PI mechanics.
Quote:In FW, winning battles for one side reduces the time taken to plex a system or something like that. Already knew that
Quote:If, as you say, there is nothing you can do Eve side to interact with Imperial Guard, then that's probably just some random value CCP has produced out of nothing. Thats why i created the post to ask someone official what those mechanics are and if any exist.
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Evicer
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Posted - 2014.03.20 12:24:00 -
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Quote:Now, if you're so hellbent on proving that your Dust FW battles must be affecting your Eve standing somehow, then you're going to have to provide some hard numbers to give us some context to your claim: Our corps standing regarding a DUST NPC corp has already been established.I dont need to provide you with any proof CCP can look it up themselves.
Quote:Theoretically, if your corp standing was affected by your dust mercs, then I'd imagine that would be done as an average (or perhaps some other function) of your merc's standings. So, what is the Amarr standing of every merc in your corp? All of there Standings toward said NPC corp are above a 3.5. Thanks for coming out.
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Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
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Posted - 2014.03.20 13:14:00 -
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Evicer wrote:Quote:Now, if you're so hellbent on proving that your Dust FW battles must be affecting your Eve standing somehow, then you're going to have to provide some hard numbers to give us some context to your claim: Our corps standing regarding a DUST NPC corp has already been established.I dont need to provide you with any proof CCP can look it up themselves. If you want reasonable dialogue over this and an answer from anyone, then you do need to provide evidence (not necessarily proof), so we can discuss it.
Now, you haven't 'established your corp's standings' at all - all you've said is that you have an 8 or 9 standing with them personally. I asked what standing every single Dust member of your corp has towards the Imperial Guard, as if as you assert it must have an affect on your corp standing, it would surely be dependent on every member of your corp, rather than just yourself and a vague assertion that they're all above 3.5.
I see you only have 6 mercs in your corp, so gathering this information can't be too difficult for you and doing so will allow us to actually look at the full situation and tentatively infer whether your Dust standings are in fact having an effect on your Eve standings.
You may not like what I'm saying but at least I have been civil, not called you names and have tried to help or at the very least engaged in dialogue to formulate an answer. If that's not what you want, then why are you posting in an open forum instead of sending a support ticket to CCP directly?
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2014.03.20 13:16:00 -
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Not hijacking, but I was asking for an update way back in this thread. Never got a response. CCP isn't keen on telling us things...
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Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
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Posted - 2014.03.20 13:17:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Not hijacking, but I was asking for an update way back in this thread. Never got a response. CCP isn't keen on telling us things... I don't understand why people think they will be more likely to get a response from devs on the forums than by sending a support ticket.
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