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jordy mack
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2014.03.19 11:46:00 -
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I'm assuming explosive, does this mean if I go minmatar assault/commando then... hmm...
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Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
2416
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Posted - 2014.03.19 11:48:00 -
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It is explosive. They're still going to be **** poor in 1.8 no matter what you do.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
5885
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Posted - 2014.03.19 11:50:00 -
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Explosive.
You can view the other weapon types by reading this DEV Blog.
AV > HAV > INF > AV | Not: HAV > AV GëÑ INF
[s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
2210
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Posted - 2014.03.19 11:59:00 -
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Explosive
However Caldari Swarms probably won't be effected, because they are caldari
Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work.
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jordy mack
Ultramarine Corp
219
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Posted - 2014.03.19 12:46:00 -
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Yer I just rechecked and the minny assault bonus is projectile I forgot, also 25% of 3 is less than one derr. Also (I think) The min commando would get the same dmg output from the swarms post 1.8 with 2 complex damage mods, as any suit with 2 cmplx dmg mods now, except the commando post 1.8 would need prof 5 in swarms. And almost 30% of that wouldn't effect shields....
Damn, ok well I give up.
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Harpyja
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1329
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Posted - 2014.03.19 13:30:00 -
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jordy mack wrote:Yer I just rechecked and the minny assault bonus is projectile I forgot, also 25% of 3 is less than one derr. Also (I think) The min commando would get the same dmg output from the swarms post 1.8 with 2 complex damage mods, as any suit with 2 cmplx dmg mods now, except the commando post 1.8 would need prof 5 in swarms. And almost 30% of that wouldn't effect shields....
Damn, ok well I give up. You should realize that it's an anti-armor specialized AV weapon, unlike the forge gun, plasma cannon, and future heavy Gallente AV, which are hybrids and deal roughly equal damage to shield and armor.
It's like asking for your mass driver to be effective against shield as well as armor.
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Kigurosaka Laaksonen
DUST University Ivy League
664
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Posted - 2014.03.19 13:36:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Explosive
However Caldari Swarms probably won't be effected, because they are caldari
You mean swarms would be effected by the Minmatar Commando bonus to explosive weapon damage because they're a Caldari weapon?
If I'm understanding you right, you're wrong. The only thing that matters is that swarms are explosive weapons, and the MinCom will get bonus to explosive weapon damage.
This occurs to me as a good place to plug weapon types and damage types. In DUST we have Laser, Hybrid - Plasma, Hybrid - Rail, Projectile, and Explosive weapons that have fixed damage modifiers against shields and armor. CCP should do in DUST what the do in EVE and make weapon types Energy, Hybrid, Projectile, and Missile and they would do some combination of the following damage types, EM, Thermal, Kinetic, and Explosive.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
5891
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Posted - 2014.03.19 13:48:00 -
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Harpyja wrote:jordy mack wrote:Yer I just rechecked and the minny assault bonus is projectile I forgot, also 25% of 3 is less than one derr. Also (I think) The min commando would get the same dmg output from the swarms post 1.8 with 2 complex damage mods, as any suit with 2 cmplx dmg mods now, except the commando post 1.8 would need prof 5 in swarms. And almost 30% of that wouldn't effect shields....
Damn, ok well I give up. You should realize that it's an anti-armor specialized AV weapon, unlike the forge gun, plasma cannon, and future heavy Gallente AV, which are hybrids and deal roughly equal damage to shield and armor. It's like asking for your mass driver to be effective against shield as well as armor.
Atiim wrote: Mass Drivers are not only good at taking out armor; though your argument is a bit dishonest considering how you can carry a grenade that instantly wipes the shields off a shielded dropsuit (at STD tier) while even the Allotek Flux Grenade will not completely strip the shields off a shielded dropsuit. Along with this, Mass Driver users don't have to worry about their enemies shields being repaired instantly from a Shield Booster, while Anti-Armor AV users will. Don't forget about the fact that no dropsuit will have a 60% resistance to Flux Grenades, while Gunnlogies do.
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Comparing AP weapons to AV isn't really a good basis for an argument, as their uses and engagement terms vastly differ.
AV > HAV > INF > AV | Not: HAV > AV GëÑ INF
[s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through
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Kigurosaka Laaksonen
DUST University Ivy League
665
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Posted - 2014.03.19 13:54:00 -
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Atiim wrote:you can carry a grenade that instantly wipes the shields off a shielded dropsuit (at STD tier) while even the Allotek Flux Grenade will not completely strip the shields off a shielded dropsuit....
I assume that second dropsuit should say vehicle.
Also, don't bother shooting Gunnlogis with hardeners on. (For the most part.)
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
5891
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Posted - 2014.03.19 13:57:00 -
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Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote:Atiim wrote:you can carry a grenade that instantly wipes the shields off a shielded dropsuit (at STD tier) while even the Allotek Flux Grenade will not completely strip the shields off a shielded dropsuit.... I assume that second dropsuit should say vehicle. Also, don't bother shooting Gunnlogis with hardeners on. (For the most part.) Yes, it's a typo.
AV > HAV > INF > AV | Not: HAV > AV GëÑ INF
[s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through
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