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da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 514	Posted - 2014.03.18 17:37:00 - [1] - Quote I don't mean to hate CCP but there was nothing new or surprising in the patch notes. The Dev blogs seemed to have covered everything and well this patch looks like it's worth two weeks instead of one week like all the other patches. After Uprisings release the forums were a bad place, I'll never forget how CCP screwed up so badly.
The Terminator T-1000 Skynet Incorporated 206	Posted - 2014.03.18 17:42:00 - [2] - Quote That is what I said
Johnny Guilt Algintal Core 588	Posted - 2014.03.18 17:47:00 - [3] - Quote good, it means everyithing they're putting in has been reviewed by us with no curve balls throwin in. A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 1770	Posted - 2014.03.18 17:49:00 - [4] - Quote "Told you so."
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 515	Posted - 2014.03.18 17:51:00 - [5] - Quote Joel II X wrote: "Told you so." After Uprisings release the forums were a bad place, I'll never forget how CCP screwed up so badly.
Martyr Saboteur Amarrtyrs 267	Posted - 2014.03.18 17:52:00 - [6] - Quote Johnny Guilt wrote: good, it means everyithing they're putting in has been reviewed by us with no curve balls throwin in. Except Laser Rifle ranges... They could be 200m and super OP for all we know. Totally not Fizzer94's forum alt. Definitely just a random dude.
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 515	Posted - 2014.03.18 18:01:00 - [7] - Quote Johnny Guilt wrote: Good, it means everyithing they're putting in has been reviewed by us with no curve balls throwin in. Well that's a good thing I suppose but the problem I have is that 3 months without an update and that's it? I had hopes for 1.8 and realistic ones, I didn't expect it to transform the game so much that we won't complain any more. But I expected to have new things to do in game. I'm sort of thinking about staying away from the game till 1.9 whenever that is. I said a few times before that 1.8 and fanfest are going to determine if Dust 514 will be successful or not, now the only card CCP has left is Fanfest. After Uprisings release the forums were a bad place, I'll never forget how CCP screwed up so badly.
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 525	Posted - 2014.03.18 18:18:00 - [8] - Quote Martyr Saboteur wrote: Johnny Guilt wrote: good, it means everyithing they're putting in has been reviewed by us with no curve balls throwin in. Except Laser Rifle ranges... They could be 200m and super OP for all we know. One of the things I don't miss from the Chromosome build. After Uprisings release the forums were a bad place, I'll never forget how CCP screwed up so badly.
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 2107	Posted - 2014.03.18 18:19:00 - [9] - Quote da GAND wrote: I don't mean to hate CCP but there was nothing new or surprising in the patch notes. The Dev blogs seemed to have covered everything and well this patch looks like it's worth two weeks instead of one week like all the other patches. For 3 months... In sorry 4 they are extremely underwhelming. For the Federation!
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 3293	Posted - 2014.03.18 18:20:00 - [10] - Quote It's a patch, not a major expansion, and we're still getting a bunch of new gear and a rebalancing of TTK. Are you upset that the dev blogs mentioned all the important stuff? Adapt or Die // Republic Lance Commander // @ReesNoturana

Patrlck 56 27	Posted - 2014.03.18 18:21:00 - [11] - Quote What did you expect?
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 525	Posted - 2014.03.18 18:23:00 - [12] - Quote Reav Hannari wrote: It's a patch, not a major expansion, and we're still getting a bunch of new gear and a rebalancing of TTK. Are you upset that the dev blogs mentioned all the important stuff? No I would have no problem with the dev blogs covering all the stuff or just all the important stuff. The problem I have is that there is still nothing new to do in the game. What am I gonna do? use the cloaking, try out the heavy suits and commando suits for Skirmish, Ambush and Domination 100 times again? After Uprisings release the forums were a bad place, I'll never forget how CCP screwed up so badly.
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 3293	Posted - 2014.03.18 18:28:00 - [13] - Quote da GAND wrote: Reav Hannari wrote: It's a patch, not a major expansion, and we're still getting a bunch of new gear and a rebalancing of TTK. Are you upset that the dev blogs mentioned all the important stuff? No I would have no problem with the dev blogs covering all the stuff or just all the important stuff. The problem I have is that there is still nothing new to do in the game. What am I gonna do? use the cloaking, try out the heavy suits and commando suits for Skirmish, Ambush and Domination 100 times again? If you're bored go do something else for a while. Personally, I'll run through ESO just to mix things up and then hopefully the Star Citizen dog fighting alpha all while playing a match or two every day and earning my passive SP. I am going to try cloaking and one of the new sentinels and then check in with CCP in five weeks when they announce their plans which hopefully include interesting new things. Adapt or Die // Republic Lance Commander // @ReesNoturana
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7452	Posted - 2014.03.18 18:35:00 - [14] - Quote Actually, this is exactly what I expected. I would rather that CCP didn't add any more changes without reviewing it with us first as a community. So far, everything in that 1.8 patch notes has already been reviewed by the community beforehand. Would you rather that CCP throw in any more changes that didn't get screened by us beforehand? So far the only things that didn't get screened by us is the grenade change and AV WP change. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 526	Posted - 2014.03.18 18:39:00 - [15] - Quote Reav Hannari wrote: da GAND wrote: Reav Hannari wrote: It's a patch, not a major expansion, and we're still getting a bunch of new gear and a rebalancing of TTK. Are you upset that the dev blogs mentioned all the important stuff? No I would have no problem with the dev blogs covering all the stuff or just all the important stuff. The problem I have is that there is still nothing new to do in the game. What am I gonna do? use the cloaking, try out the heavy suits and commando suits for Skirmish, Ambush and Domination 100 times again? If you're bored go do something else for a while. Personally, I'll run through ESO just to mix things up and then hopefully the Star Citizen dog fighting alpha all while playing a match or two every day and earning my passive SP. I am going to try cloaking and one of the new sentinels and then check in with CCP in five weeks when they announce their plans which hopefully include interesting new things. I have been playing other games lol I was looking forward to playing dust again once 1.8 came out but it looks like I'll stick with other games still. I've been playing Blacklight: Retribution plenty , and going through Fallout New Vegas again. I've got plenty of games to occupy myself with till Dust becomes worth playing again. After Uprisings release the forums were a bad place, I'll never forget how CCP screwed up so badly.
Kigurosaka Laaksonen DUST University Ivy League 651	Posted - 2014.03.18 18:41:00 - [16] - Quote Hopefully you don't maintain those unfounded expectations in the future. DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/ EVE Buddy Invite - Too damn long. Ask me for it.
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 1734	Posted - 2014.03.18 18:45:00 - [17] - Quote da GAND wrote: I don't mean to hate CCP but there was nothing new or surprising in the patch notes. Ideally, CCP should NOT be dropping a "surprise" a week before patch release. That never goes well. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 526	Posted - 2014.03.18 18:45:00 - [18] - Quote Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote: Hopefully you don't maintain those unfounded expectations in the future. Sort of my problem right now, I want this game to be great because it has so much damn potential. But CCP moves too slow, too many problems for them to fix and so much to add. But I have this bit of hope that CCP has great stuff ready to be released soon. Sort of keeps me paying attention to dust and since fanfest is near it really seems like the right time for CCP to show great things for Dust. After Uprisings release the forums were a bad place, I'll never forget how CCP screwed up so badly.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7453	Posted - 2014.03.18 19:25:00 - [19] - Quote da GAND wrote: Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote: Hopefully you don't maintain those unfounded expectations in the future. Sort of my problem right now, I want this game to be great because it has so much damn potential. But CCP moves too slow, too many problems for them to fix and so much to add. But I have this bit of hope that CCP has great stuff ready to be released soon. Sort of keeps me paying attention to dust and since fanfest is near it really seems like the right time for CCP to show great things for Dust. We all want Dust to be great. So that is not your problem. Your real problem is you expect so much too soon and a lot of stuff we want needs to undergo balancing passes and all that jazz before we can get our hands on it. Not to mention the fact that CCP needs our input first before implementing any further content or changes. The last time CCP implemented a "surprise" in any of the previous patch notes, the community didn't like it and it just further reinforced the community's opinion that CCP doesn't listen to its player base. So far, CCP implemented almost exactly what we expected to see after reviewing it for the past 3 months. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7453	Posted - 2014.03.18 19:26:00 - [20] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: da GAND wrote: I don't mean to hate CCP but there was nothing new or surprising in the patch notes. Ideally, CCP should NOT be dropping a "surprise" a week before patch release. That never goes well. Agreed. When was the last time CCP dropped a "surprise" that DID go well? Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor

Roy Ventus Axis of Chaos 1417	Posted - 2014.03.18 19:28:00 - [21] - Quote Was there supposed to be? --- I know what you're saying though. Almost all patch notes had something we didn't hear about that was buzz worthy. 1.6 was supposed to be the shortest patch but turned out to be a big game changer, same with 1.7 and it's FW. They probably decided to move it the other things(like the new maps/building sockets) to 1.9 and will showcase it at fanfest along with the next evolution of Dust. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 11341	Posted - 2014.03.18 19:32:00 - [22] - Quote I find this to be a fine state of affairs. It means the devs are actually communicating what they're doing, although there's a lot to be improved in that process. What I'm much more concerned with is the complete lack of feedback that they've taken. They buffed tanks further. That alone is insane. But it's combined with bonuses and stats which we've told them to change a thousand times. Nobody cares about the reload bonus on a Caldari assault, for instance. We've known those for a long time. They even asked for feedback. But they didn't take it. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 526	Posted - 2014.03.18 19:33:00 - [23] - Quote Roy Ventus wrote: Was there supposed to be? --- I know what you're saying though. Almost all patch notes had something we didn't hear about that was buzz worthy. 1.6 was supposed to be the shortest patch but turned out to be a big game changer, same with 1.7 and it's FW. They probably decided to move it the other things(like the new maps/building sockets) to 1.9 and will showcase it at fanfest along with the next evolution of Dust. I wonder what CCP considers evolutionary for Dust cuz after nearly a year and 1.8 it really seems like they might need to look up evolution in a dictionary. After Uprisings release the forums were a bad place, I'll never forget how CCP screwed up so badly.
Kigurosaka Laaksonen DUST University Ivy League 652	Posted - 2014.03.18 19:59:00 - [24] - Quote da GAND wrote: Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote: Hopefully you don't maintain those unfounded expectations in the future. Sort of my problem right now, I want this game to be great because it has so much damn potential. But CCP moves too slow, too many problems for them to fix and so much to add. But I have this bit of hope that CCP has great stuff ready to be released soon. Sort of keeps me paying attention to dust and since fanfest is near it really seems like the right time for CCP to show great things for Dust. Look, don't get me wrong. I might come off as douchey or confrontational, but I'm sincere. This is how CCP works. There are no surprises in the patch notes. If you follow the F&ID subforum even just once a week and look for Blue Posts, you'll see anything they have planned for a new patch well in advance. By the time they publish dev blogs, that's it. You'll get everything you need to know. Like Soraya said, the patch notes are no place for surprises. This is how CCP operates with EVE and so far it's what they've done in DUST. DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/ EVE Buddy Invite - Too damn long. Ask me for it.
The Terminator T-1000 Skynet Incorporated 212	Posted - 2014.03.18 20:28:00 - [25] - Quote So when is 1.9 being released?
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 526	Posted - 2014.03.18 20:46:00 - [26] - Quote Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote: da GAND wrote: Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote: Hopefully you don't maintain those unfounded expectations in the future. Sort of my problem right now, I want this game to be great because it has so much damn potential. But CCP moves too slow, too many problems for them to fix and so much to add. But I have this bit of hope that CCP has great stuff ready to be released soon. Sort of keeps me paying attention to dust and since fanfest is near it really seems like the right time for CCP to show great things for Dust. Look, don't get me wrong. I might come off as douchey or confrontational, but I'm sincere. This is how CCP works. There are no surprises in the patch notes. If you follow the F&ID subforum even just once a week and look for Blue Posts, you'll see anything they have planned for a new patch well in advance. By the time they publish dev blogs, that's it. You'll get everything you need to know. Like Soraya said, the patch notes are no place for surprises. This is how CCP operates with EVE and so far it's what they've done in DUST. I didn't think you were a douchey lol and I understand that it's good that CCP explained what would be in the patch in the dev blogs. After Uprisings release the forums were a bad place, I'll never forget how CCP screwed up so badly.
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 528	Posted - 2014.03.18 20:55:00 - [27] - Quote The Terminator T-1000 wrote: So when is 1.9 being released? I'm guessing many months after fanfest After Uprisings release the forums were a bad place, I'll never forget how CCP screwed up so badly.
Kigurosaka Laaksonen DUST University Ivy League 653	Posted - 2014.03.18 21:06:00 - [28] - Quote My assumption is 1.9 would be in about 3 or 4 months. DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/ EVE Buddy Invite - Too damn long. Ask me for it.
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 529	Posted - 2014.03.18 21:26:00 - [29] - Quote Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote: My assumption is 1.9 would be in about 3 or 4 months. Yup probably After Uprisings release the forums were a bad place, I'll never forget how CCP screwed up so badly.
GeneralButtNaked Fatal Absolution 749	Posted - 2014.03.18 21:28:00 - [30] - Quote If you have hands on with the next evolution of Dust at Fanfest, expect it to be ready in November, with a patch to fix the bugs in June. It would be nice if CCP would release the minimum concurrent user average they are willing to accept. With the forthcoming tank changes, new players will not stand a chance. Real AV doesn't stop until all the tanks are dead.

da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 532	Posted - 2014.03.18 21:32:00 - [31] - Quote GeneralButtNaked wrote: If you have hands on with the next evolution of Dust at Fanfest, expect it to be ready in November, with a patch to fix the bugs in June. It would be nice if CCP would release the minimum concurrent user average they are willing to accept. With the forthcoming tank changes, new players will not stand a chance. That's really not good lol, November is still very far away and Destiny gets released in September. And Dust needs a lot of stuff it should have already. After Uprisings release the forums were a bad place, I'll never forget how CCP screwed up so badly.
Testing Turbo Bragian Order Amarr Empire 15	Posted - 2014.03.18 21:39:00 - [32] - Quote Patrlck 56 wrote: What did you expect? 4 months of work ... More basically Don;t forget racial parity of suits was supposed to be in 1.0 .. we still don;t even have pilot suits despite having the suit title in the market
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 1740	Posted - 2014.03.18 21:43:00 - [33] - Quote da GAND wrote: The Terminator T-1000 wrote: So when is 1.9 being released? I'm guessing many months after fanfest The notion that a 1.9 is even coming is probably faulty, since a new expansion is likely due at or around Fanfest. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
Kigurosaka Laaksonen DUST University Ivy League 654	Posted - 2014.03.18 21:54:00 - [34] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: da GAND wrote: The Terminator T-1000 wrote: So when is 1.9 being released? I'm guessing many months after fanfest The notion that a 1.9 is even coming is probably faulty, since a new expansion is likely due at or around Fanfest. I'll add a disclaimer that I mean '1.9' as 'whatever comes next.' DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/ EVE Buddy Invite - Too damn long. Ask me for it.
Hynox Xitio Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 543	Posted - 2014.03.18 21:54:00 - [35] - Quote Their still adding dinosaurs and lightsabers. Unleash the Fogwoggler
Appia Vibbia Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1576	Posted - 2014.03.18 21:57:00 - [36] - Quote The fun part is going to be when we all log in on patch day and find the dozen or so things they changed that were left out of the patch notes. Remember, sticky REs were pretty revolutionary and they certainly were not in 1.7 notes. Appia Vibbia for CPM1 AppiaVibbia(at)gmail(dot)com AKA Nappia, AKA Mathppia
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7456	Posted - 2014.03.18 22:25:00 - [37] - Quote da GAND wrote: GeneralButtNaked wrote: If you have hands on with the next evolution of Dust at Fanfest, expect it to be ready in November, with a patch to fix the bugs in June. It would be nice if CCP would release the minimum concurrent user average they are willing to accept. With the forthcoming tank changes, new players will not stand a chance. That's really not good lol, November is still very far away and Destiny gets released in September. And Dust needs a lot of stuff it should have already. Last time I checked, DUST is not meant to compete with Destiny. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7456	Posted - 2014.03.18 22:26:00 - [38] - Quote Appia Vibbia wrote: The fun part is going to be when we all log in on patch day and find the dozen or so things they changed that were left out of the patch notes. Remember, sticky REs were pretty revolutionary and they certainly were not in 1.7 notes. They also fixed the nova knife jamming in 1.7 and that wasn't on the patch notes either. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
Medic 1879 Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 1882	Posted - 2014.03.18 22:36:00 - [39] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: da GAND wrote: I don't mean to hate CCP but there was nothing new or surprising in the patch notes. Ideally, CCP should NOT be dropping a "surprise" a week before patch release. That never goes well. CCP wrote: We have listened to feedback and... That would have been a nice surprise. Lead Diplomat for Forsaken Immortals.
da GAND L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 533	Posted - 2014.03.18 23:11:00 - [40] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: da GAND wrote: GeneralButtNaked wrote: If you have hands on with the next evolution of Dust at Fanfest, expect it to be ready in November, with a patch to fix the bugs in June. It would be nice if CCP would release the minimum concurrent user average they are willing to accept. With the forthcoming tank changes, new players will not stand a chance. That's really not good lol, November is still very far away and Destiny gets released in September. And Dust needs a lot of stuff it should have already. Last time I checked, DUST is not meant to compete with Destiny. Destiny is a MMO-FPS Dust is suppose to be a MMO-FPS After Uprisings release the forums were a bad place, I'll never forget how CCP screwed up so badly.



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