DUST Search - Rewards out this Thursday!

Reav Hannari wrote:

Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:

Derpty Derp wrote:

Everyone keeps going on about these "core upgrades" being 100% needed... I bearly have any and don't tend to fail more than I succeed, even when using the starter fits... Should I bother, or will I be deemed OP with them? lol.

Well, let's see. Core upgrades give you:

30% more CPU
30% more PG
5% more Speed / Stamina
25% more Shields
25% more Armor
25% faster Hacking Speed

To be clear: These are bonuses that apply for EVERY suit without having to fit any modules. Not maxing that out is just stupid. It can really give you the little edge you need in 1 on 1 fights. Not to mention that more CPU and more PG means you can fit more and better modules / weapons.

Nice way to show the benefits.

When I finally finished off Engineering 5 I went through all my fittings and was able to upgrade at least one module from advanced to prototype. CPU on Minmatar suits is so tight that I've been working on the weapon operation skills that reduce CPU usage just to make everything fit. Hacking to 5 can make the difference in getting in that hack before being killed or dying before you finish.

It's all about the cumulative small percentages.

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Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2707	Posted - 2014.03.18 13:15:00 - [1] - Quote "2.75 million clones dead my Spartans! Not even Xerxes had that many immortals at Thermopylae! ^^ Rewards out this Thurs #dust514" -CmdrWang https://mobile.twitter.com/CCP_CmdrWang "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 4687	Posted - 2014.03.18 13:16:00 - [2] - Quote I'm going for all Biotics level V. Taco Cat backwards is still Taco Cat
steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 2606	Posted - 2014.03.18 13:18:00 - [3] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: I'm going for all Biotics level V. ... Its not allready? "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
D34NOS MAZDA WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 399	Posted - 2014.03.18 13:19:00 - [4] - Quote GM Archduke wrote: The reward should be handed out at DT this Thursday link above
Derpty Derp It's All Gone Derp 138	Posted - 2014.03.18 13:21:00 - [5] - Quote Everyone keeps going on about these "core upgrades" being 100% needed... I bearly have any and don't tend to fail more than I succeed, even when using the starter fits... Should I bother, or will I be deemed OP with them? lol.
iTbagyou Expert Intervention Caldari State 246	Posted - 2014.03.18 13:24:00 - [6] - Quote Finally hacking lvl 5. Official spokesman of Lipton Tea.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui The Containment Unit 402	Posted - 2014.03.18 13:32:00 - [7] - Quote Derpty Derp wrote: Everyone keeps going on about these "core upgrades" being 100% needed... I bearly have any and don't tend to fail more than I succeed, even when using the starter fits... Should I bother, or will I be deemed OP with them? lol. I'm level 4 on some and all at 3 and I really don't notice much of a change besides the fact that I can use the mods. A lot of the percentages go un noticed by me I mean , 1 and 2 percent every level doesn't change much. Only in proto does things seem to actually work anyway. Leave all negative comments about tanks in the bin marked " TRASH " and we'll get to it as soon as possible . Thank You
Broonfondle Majikthies Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day 955	Posted - 2014.03.18 13:35:00 - [8] - Quote Well... cant say were not thorough "...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
Broonfondle Majikthies Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day 955	Posted - 2014.03.18 13:37:00 - [9] - Quote Derpty Derp wrote: Everyone keeps going on about these "core upgrades" being 100% needed... I bearly have any and don't tend to fail more than I succeed, even when using the starter fits... Should I bother, or will I be deemed OP with them? lol. If your a Minmatar scout in particular some of the core upgrades are not worth past lvl3. 450k SP for 10 hp more shields? No thanks. And thats the best stat! "...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 3181	Posted - 2014.03.18 13:41:00 - [10] - Quote Whatever. Whenever. I haven't spent a single SP in almost 3 months, and I'm not even thinking about what I'm getting til I secure my Gallente Sentinels. ~11,000,000 SP freed up after respec, it's gonna be crazy. (GG the other night, Cody. I thought you ran ShottyScouts, so it was a little weird going HMGvHMG with you.) I GÖú Kittens.

IAmDuncanIdaho II R 0 N 1 N 274	Posted - 2014.03.18 13:50:00 - [11] - Quote Broonfondle Majikthies wrote: Derpty Derp wrote: Everyone keeps going on about these "core upgrades" being 100% needed... I bearly have any and don't tend to fail more than I succeed, even when using the starter fits... Should I bother, or will I be deemed OP with them? lol. If your a Minmatar scout in particular some of the core upgrades are not worth past lvl3. 450k SP for 10 hp more shields? No thanks. And thats the best stat! I have all core skills at level 5, and I need them to fit my Minnie ADV scout with some of the complex modules. It also allows me to vary the fits for different situations. What you said might be accurate for proto scout, but certainly not ADV.
Spademan The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 944	Posted - 2014.03.18 13:53:00 - [12] - Quote Anyone know if (without boosters) this will equal 2 million or 2.75 million sp? I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special. Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 1147	Posted - 2014.03.18 13:54:00 - [13] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: Whatever. Whenever. I haven't spent a single SP in almost 3 months, and I'm not even thinking about what I'm getting til I secure my Gallente Sentinels. ~11,000,000 SP freed up after respec, it's gonna be crazy. (GG the other night, Cody. I thought you ran ShottyScouts, so it was a little weird going HMGvHMG with you.) Lol ima have 13 million We gonna make it rain sp AMARR PROTO DONUT PROFICIENCY 5 I MAKE DUST VIDEOS CLICK HERE FOR DONUTS :)
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2708	Posted - 2014.03.18 13:55:00 - [14] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: Whatever. Whenever. I haven't spent a single SP in almost 3 months, and I'm not even thinking about what I'm getting til I secure my Gallente Sentinels. ~11,000,000 SP freed up after respec, it's gonna be crazy. (GG the other night, Cody. I thought you ran ShottyScouts, so it was a little weird going HMGvHMG with you.) GG ^_^ I do normally run a scout, but have been playing with heavies to get ready for the new GalSentinel. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
IAmDuncanIdaho II R 0 N 1 N 274	Posted - 2014.03.18 13:55:00 - [15] - Quote Spademan wrote: Anyone know if (without boosters) this will equal 2 million or 2.75 million sp? 2 million...unless they decide they're feeling real nice (which they kind of were when they stretched it from 1m to 2m)
Asha Starwind DUST University Ivy League 520	Posted - 2014.03.18 13:57:00 - [16] - Quote Heck yeah, getting some sweet warbarge wear. Mad Bomber Now with 50% less profile
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 3268	Posted - 2014.03.18 14:11:00 - [17] - Quote Broonfondle Majikthies wrote: Derpty Derp wrote: Everyone keeps going on about these "core upgrades" being 100% needed... I bearly have any and don't tend to fail more than I succeed, even when using the starter fits... Should I bother, or will I be deemed OP with them? lol. If your a Minmatar scout in particular some of the core upgrades are not worth past lvl3. 450k SP for 10 hp more shields? No thanks. And thats the best stat! I finished dropsuit shield upgrades about 70% of my way through training the upgrades tree. When you have your weapons, suits and gear where you want them then that extra 10 HP doesn't hurt. Training skills and fitting equipment in New Eden has always been about small advancements. They all add up in the end to make you stronger than the other guy. I no longer reply to rookie threads where people are asking for skill training plans. Each person's style and preferences are different enough the best I can say is core skills matter but level them up as you work on everything else. Many of the beta veterans are either done with or close to finishing the upgrades tree simply because we can and makes everything we use just that much better. Adapt or Die // Republic Lance Commander // @ReesNoturana
CRYPT3C W0LF Auraxis Special Forces 449	Posted - 2014.03.18 14:16:00 - [18] - Quote Sweet! I'm gona be specing into Proto Commando just for Lolz. Cloak Engaged~ Can I Haz A Cheezburger? SlayerScout, I feast on you're Proto Remains!:)
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3537	Posted - 2014.03.18 14:38:00 - [19] - Quote Derpty Derp wrote: Everyone keeps going on about these "core upgrades" being 100% needed... I bearly have any and don't tend to fail more than I succeed, even when using the starter fits... Should I bother, or will I be deemed OP with them? lol. It's nice that you decided to roleplay your merc. No.
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2030	Posted - 2014.03.18 14:43:00 - [20] - Quote Derpty Derp wrote: Everyone keeps going on about these "core upgrades" being 100% needed... I bearly have any and don't tend to fail more than I succeed, even when using the starter fits... Should I bother, or will I be deemed OP with them? lol. Well, let's see. Core upgrades give you: 30% more CPU 30% more PG 5% more Speed / Stamina 25% more Shields 25% more Armor 25% faster Hacking Speed To be clear: These are bonuses that apply for EVERY suit without having to fit any modules. Not maxing that out is just stupid. It can really give you the little edge you need in 1 on 1 fights. Not to mention that more CPU and more PG means you can fit more and better modules / weapons. Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!

Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 3274	Posted - 2014.03.18 14:50:00 - [21] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Derpty Derp wrote: Everyone keeps going on about these "core upgrades" being 100% needed... I bearly have any and don't tend to fail more than I succeed, even when using the starter fits... Should I bother, or will I be deemed OP with them? lol. Well, let's see. Core upgrades give you: 30% more CPU 30% more PG 5% more Speed / Stamina 25% more Shields 25% more Armor 25% faster Hacking Speed To be clear: These are bonuses that apply for EVERY suit without having to fit any modules. Not maxing that out is just stupid. It can really give you the little edge you need in 1 on 1 fights. Not to mention that more CPU and more PG means you can fit more and better modules / weapons. Nice way to show the benefits. When I finally finished off Engineering 5 I went through all my fittings and was able to upgrade at least one module from advanced to prototype. CPU on Minmatar suits is so tight that I've been working on the weapon operation skills that reduce CPU usage just to make everything fit. Hacking to 5 can make the difference in getting in that hack before being killed or dying before you finish. It's all about the small percentages. Adapt or Die // Republic Lance Commander // @ReesNoturana
Patrlck 56 16	Posted - 2014.03.18 14:55:00 - [22] - Quote Going all out into Tanks and Dropships (for PC purposes >_>). :D I should be able to max Shield skills and Small Missile Turrets with the SP from this event.
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2711	Posted - 2014.03.18 14:56:00 - [23] - Quote Reav Hannari wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Derpty Derp wrote: Everyone keeps going on about these "core upgrades" being 100% needed... I bearly have any and don't tend to fail more than I succeed, even when using the starter fits... Should I bother, or will I be deemed OP with them? lol. Well, let's see. Core upgrades give you: 30% more CPU 30% more PG 5% more Speed / Stamina 25% more Shields 25% more Armor 25% faster Hacking Speed To be clear: These are bonuses that apply for EVERY suit without having to fit any modules. Not maxing that out is just stupid. It can really give you the little edge you need in 1 on 1 fights. Not to mention that more CPU and more PG means you can fit more and better modules / weapons. Nice way to show the benefits. When I finally finished off Engineering 5 I went through all my fittings and was able to upgrade at least one module from advanced to prototype. CPU on Minmatar suits is so tight that I've been working on the weapon operation skills that reduce CPU usage just to make everything fit. Hacking to 5 can make the difference in getting in that hack before being killed or dying before you finish. It's all about the small percentages. I got hacking to 5 just because of how many times I said "JUST 1 MORE FREAKING TICK!" Also, Gallente have the same problem. Just with PG, so I had to get my optimaztion skills for most of my weapons. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2032	Posted - 2014.03.18 14:57:00 - [24] - Quote Reav Hannari wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Derpty Derp wrote: Everyone keeps going on about these "core upgrades" being 100% needed... I bearly have any and don't tend to fail more than I succeed, even when using the starter fits... Should I bother, or will I be deemed OP with them? lol. Well, let's see. Core upgrades give you: 30% more CPU 30% more PG 5% more Speed / Stamina 25% more Shields 25% more Armor 25% faster Hacking Speed To be clear: These are bonuses that apply for EVERY suit without having to fit any modules. Not maxing that out is just stupid. It can really give you the little edge you need in 1 on 1 fights. Not to mention that more CPU and more PG means you can fit more and better modules / weapons. Nice way to show the benefits. When I finally finished off Engineering 5 I went through all my fittings and was able to upgrade at least one module from advanced to prototype. CPU on Minmatar suits is so tight that I've been working on the weapon operation skills that reduce CPU usage just to make everything fit. Hacking to 5 can make the difference in getting in that hack before being killed or dying before you finish. It's all about the small percentages. Don't forget that Nanocircuitry actually reduces CPU needed for Nanohives. Don't know if the same applies to other equipment skills. And skilling explosives reduces CPU needed for grenades. Also a good way to stuff more into your suit. Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
Bones McGavins TacoCat Industries 569	Posted - 2014.03.18 15:30:00 - [25] - Quote I can see not maxing cores for a bit, but theres really no reason to not get at least 3 or 4. 5 is a bit pricey for some and the advantage is minimal. But getting at least 3 if not 4 for all cores should be a priority since those skills are easily the best bang for your SP buck.
Cenex Langly D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 653	Posted - 2014.03.18 15:43:00 - [26] - Quote The only skills I would deem a necessity to level 5 are the electronics and engineering (pg & CPU) skills. They really make the difference when fitting your suit. Letting you run cheap fits with better gear, i.e., using advanced suits with proto shields/armor will cost much less than proto suits and yeild the same results. The other two skills that you should level 5 are your light weapon operation/sidearm operation/heavy weapon operation and biotics skill. The first will max your CPU output for your weapon of choice which helps with suit fittings and the second will let you move around with more freedom on the field. All other skills you need only train to unlock the modules you want to use but go no further. Shield upgrades to 5... Lol armor upgrades to 5... Lol you'll get something like 40hp for shields or for armor on a scout/logi/assault suit at level 5... That means you can sustain one more bullet from a rail rifle before you die. Totally not worth the sink. I would only train then enough to unlock the armor plate skill and shield extender skill and then leave it at that. Maybe others will agree with me, perhaps there is another argument with respect to the sp/skill reward tradeoff. Newb
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3524	Posted - 2014.03.18 15:54:00 - [27] - Quote Reav Hannari wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Derpty Derp wrote: Everyone keeps going on about these "core upgrades" being 100% needed... I bearly have any and don't tend to fail more than I succeed, even when using the starter fits... Should I bother, or will I be deemed OP with them? lol. Well, let's see. Core upgrades give you: 30% more CPU 30% more PG 5% more Speed / Stamina 25% more Shields 25% more Armor 25% faster Hacking Speed To be clear: These are bonuses that apply for EVERY suit without having to fit any modules. Not maxing that out is just stupid. It can really give you the little edge you need in 1 on 1 fights. Not to mention that more CPU and more PG means you can fit more and better modules / weapons. Nice way to show the benefits. When I finally finished off Engineering 5 I went through all my fittings and was able to upgrade at least one module from advanced to prototype. CPU on Minmatar suits is so tight that I've been working on the weapon operation skills that reduce CPU usage just to make everything fit. Hacking to 5 can make the difference in getting in that hack before being killed or dying before you finish. It's all about the cumulative small percentages. FTFY Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face. I've got 3k likes, I'll double post if I want to dammit!
Awesome Pantaloons Lokapalas. 307	Posted - 2014.03.18 15:57:00 - [28] - Quote I have my fingers crossed for 2.75 mil. My faith in CCP will be completely restored. I don't see why they shouldn't. lol "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited." -The Code of Demeanor
lrian Locust Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 373	Posted - 2014.03.18 16:07:00 - [29] - Quote CRYPT3C W0LF wrote: Sweet! I'm gona be specing into Proto Commando just for Lolz. Actually, the Calmando looks pretty tempting, with it's damage multiplier. Especially now damage mods are getting nerfed.
Nothing Certain Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 315	Posted - 2014.03.18 16:12:00 - [30] - Quote The way it works is that the core skills are subject to the law of diminishing returns. They definitely give you the most bang for the buck at lower levels but ad they get more expensive other items, such as weapons and suits give you more value, but these too have diminishing returns. The art and science is balancing the value with your playstyle. Because, that's why.



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