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Posted - 2014.03.18 17:26:00 -
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Supernus Gigas wrote:Argetlam Thorson wrote:
The bit about you being redlined aside, if you don't want to worry about losing a 400000 ISK tank don't call it in. This is New Eden. To paraphrase the motto of EvE, don't drive what you can't afford to lose. At least with Jihad Jeeps, I take a death and (usually) a small monetary loss. When I have a RLRT take out my dropship in two hits, it costs them nothing and costs me 400K. Yes, I know "Don't fly what you can't afford to lose, Thorson." But when your rail tank is in the redline or on a hill watching my spawn and takes out my 400K at no cost to you, you better know that I have no qualms about Jihad Jeeping. Jus' sayin.
Where did I say that I was worried about losing them? I bought those expensive Gunnlogi fits for the sole purpose for fighting in Caldari FW, and I was more than prepared to lose them. JLAVs are just a cheap, nearly skill-less tactic.
Militia tanks require 0 SP. A JLAV requires a logistics suit for multiple equipment, 460,200 SP. At least lvl 3 in demolitions for access to two types of RE's, 435,300 SP. For a total of 895,500 SP just to be a viable Jihadi. Sure you could try with 1 set of remotes, but the odds of success drops drastically.
As for skill, you are just valuing one set of skills (driving a tank) over another (driving a jeep). Your tank isn't laden with explosives that can blow up if they catch a stray bullet; you have way more ehp; won't blow up if you lightly clip a wall, terrain, or friendly vehicle ; and can apply damage at range. So what requires less skill?
And why do you insist that just because it costs a lot it should be invulnerable to less expensive things? This is New Eden, where cheap disposable frigates can destroy multi-billion isk battleships.
IMHO, the problem is blueprint LAV's. This reduces the isk investment significantly. |
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Posted - 2014.03.18 18:47:00 -
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Asha Starwind wrote:
Those requirements you listed for jihading are all luxuries, you need exactly 0sp for the bare minimum. A 0SP logi can be provided from any faction LP store of your choice. At Matari Outfitters, you can grab the Republic brand REs for 0SP, and the Republic F/45 at Demoltions I and at the ISK market the no-name brand REs. That's a logi suit and 3 sets of REs and only requires the SP investment of whatever it takes to get Demo I.
This is still 286,060 more SP than it takes to use a militia HAV.
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