DUST Search - Worried about the HMG in 1.8 ...

Himiko Kuronaga wrote:

Aeon Amadi wrote:

Most notably because all rifles will have a reduction in damage to accomodate a longer TTK but the HMG will not. IMO, it's already in a pretty good place and it's only intended counters in the CQC environment are the AR and the SG, both of which are getting some pretty hefty nerfs come 1.8

Fairly worried that the HMG will completely replace other CQC options as the new heavies gain in popularity and the subsequent nerfs occur. I kinda feel as though rifles were singled out in the TTK area in this aspect, some were obviously over-powering but there were others that were already falling short here in 1.7 (breach, burst and tactical AR, for instance).

I can't be the only one with this concern.

In CQC the heavy needs to be absolutely undisputed. He moves slow and has no other application whatsoever. Not "in a good place". The absolute best and always winning.

Other CQC options should be inferior to the heavy's, because they come with the benefit of increased mobility, the ability to cloak and set up kills, and better scan precision for situational awareness. The heavy is a gigantic flashing "Here I am, *******" beacon with a giant gun attached to it. He has to be absolutely dominant in direct combat.

The heavy will be fine in 1.8, leave him alone.


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noob cavman Expert Intervention Caldari State 796	Posted - 2014.03.17 19:40:00 - [1] - Quote I hear that my shotgun is the counter to heavies. But if the prof skill is being changed to shield damage and not keeping the rof bonus. I see alot of death on my horizon from not being able to get that 4 shot off... I want to be a caveman! Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK British ninja cowboy scout, logi, heavy
noob cavman Expert Intervention Caldari State 798	Posted - 2014.03.17 19:57:00 - [2] - Quote The hmg is awesome right now. With in 20 meters against a good heavy face to face your very likely to be abused like a welsh sheep. The counters for heavies have always been range or ambush. With prof skill being likely changed in 1.8 for the shotgun im very worried about them just turning around with me struggling to get my shots off. My rhythm with the shotty is going to drastically changed back to pre rof bonus stats, that makes me feel a little uncomfortable and and wonder why ive put so much sp into it. I want to be a caveman! Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK British ninja cowboy scout, logi, heavy
noob cavman Expert Intervention Caldari State 799	Posted - 2014.03.17 20:13:00 - [3] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Most notably because all rifles will have a reduction in damage to accomodate a longer TTK but the HMG will not. IMO, it's already in a pretty good place and it's only intended counters in the CQC environment are the AR and the SG, both of which are getting some pretty hefty nerfs come 1.8 Fairly worried that the HMG will completely replace other CQC options as the new heavies gain in popularity and the subsequent nerfs occur. I kinda feel as though rifles were singled out in the TTK area in this aspect, some were obviously over-powering but there were others that were already falling short here in 1.7 (breach, burst and tactical AR, for instance). I can't be the only one with this concern. In CQC the heavy needs to be absolutely undisputed. He moves slow and has no other application whatsoever. Not "in a good place". The absolute best and always winning. Other CQC options should be inferior to the heavy's, because they come with the benefit of increased mobility, the ability to cloak and set up kills, and better scan precision for situational awareness. The heavy is a gigantic flashing "Here I am, *******" beacon with a giant gun attached to it. He has to be absolutely dominant in direct combat. The heavy will be fine in 1.8, leave him alone. Il be honest I don't want to touch the heavy in any way. I just want my shotgun prof bonus to stay they way it is. I am your counter, I am your shadowy bane raptor jumping to pump your spine full of lead. I need that rof bonus to do my job of killing you from behind. I will not even begin to talk on heavy vs med combat. Il leave that to fellow metal friend amadi with his big words XD I want to be a caveman! Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK British ninja cowboy scout, logi, heavy
noob cavman Expert Intervention Caldari State 807	Posted - 2014.03.18 14:31:00 - [4] - Quote Oxskull Duncarino wrote: Hollow M Ling wrote: Oxskull Duncarino wrote: Hollow M Ling wrote: Welp I haven't been on these forums in months and people want the HMG nerfed again....Fine looks like in 1.8 I'll give my Heavy an RR. If all us Heavies don't use the HMG in 1.8 it can't get called op so it can't get nerfed You're late to the party with your Railrifle heavy, but there's a big group of them there already to welcome you to the fold. I'll welcome you with my HMG when ya step just a bit closer Oh sure, but first can you just wait for me behind this supply depo I need to pick up an ol' friend Nay a bother, but ya might miss me when ya come back due to my rapid switch to my cloaked scout your not ment to be skinny ox XD I want to be a caveman! Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK British ninja cowboy scout, logi, heavy
noob cavman Expert Intervention Caldari State 810	Posted - 2014.03.18 14:43:00 - [5] - Quote Your back looks like a glory hole collection brah! Im gonna die thanks to laughing to much at that back! I want to be a caveman! Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK British ninja cowboy scout, logi, heavy
noob cavman Expert Intervention Caldari State 811	Posted - 2014.03.18 14:51:00 - [6] - Quote Oxskull Duncarino wrote: noob cavman wrote: Your back looks like a glory hole collection brah! Im gonna die thanks to laughing to much at that back! Lol, I want prox chat so I can get some warning from your giggling before ya detonate a quad remote stack. I edited my last post by the way. My reading comprehension sucked. With my shotty being rof nerfed(?) Im just gonna stab then bolt pistol. I want to be a caveman! Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK British ninja cowboy scout, logi, heavy