I never said it was -going- to be OP, I said that I was worried about it. In big ole letters right in the subject line and title text of the thread. In fact, by default, it's the very first thing you read before even seeing the rest of the thread. Worry does not constitute a definitive take. I'm going to be watching everything very very closely but logic would dictate that what is fine now is going to be a problem later when changes are made. Even you cannot deny this.



So much logic it honestly hurts


EDIT: Addendum, calling it now but we'll probably see a resurgence of the Heavy/Commando black screen at supply depots/spawning. Will repost this as a new thread indicating that I, in fact, called it, if it happens. If it doesn't, consider yourselves blessed that I set myself up for manifest destiny when it did not occur.

I take huge issue with these new resistance bonuses. First of all, they shouldn't be anywhere near as high as they are. Secondly I feel it should've been an either/or situation. Either heavies got the explosive resistance, OR the light weapon resistance based on race, not both. I think it's going to lead to a huge imbalance.

15% resistance is for someone who has put millions of SP into one suit. You know what counters that? If you put millions of SP into the one gun they have 15% resistance to, id est: proficiency skill. You know what that's called? Balance. Further most of the resistances combat a weapon's strengths anyway, mostly just lowering it (Cal Sentinel - 15% shield resistance to blaster weapons, which do +20% to shields anyway, 10% to lasers which to +20% to shields, etc) and not negating it. Exceptions being Amarr and Gallente with projectile weapons, but again, prof V eliminates sentinel V resistance. Balanced.

I can use insults and sound like an imbecile also without carrying out a normal discussion. Let me guess Scalesdini, you probably use fatsuits with RR as well because you can't fight in a medium or scout suit so you need the extra HP buffer. If you only use a HMG, I'd be amazed, but even with that, you still get an automatic built in "crutch" due to the HMG "sloth" effect when you hit people with it.

Your argument is pointless. With the resistances, and sentinels having around 1200 armor alone, you can engage one from the side or behind and they'll still turn around and kill you. I wrote a large post on this under another thread using actual math, but I guess you probably couldn't comprehend that.

When there's entire squads or teams using nearly all fatsuits for the resistance and HP reserves all camping an area or single objective, how do you think people are going to be able to get in there? They won't. I don't take an issue with HMG heavies. It's all these light weapon fatsuit scrubs I can't stand.

The problem I have with this is that it's arguably more SP investment to counter the resistances than to get them. If you're speccing into Sentinels, you're getting the bonus all the way up to level five but in order to counter that you'd have to invest not only in 'x' weapon operation 5, but also Proficiency 5. It's the aspect that it costs more to counter the suit that's already powerful without the necessity of having other skills involved. Probably not wording it the way I want to but I can't get on Dust 514 right now to do a comparison of SP investment between Racial Sentinel 5 and Weapon Proficiency 5.

The next thing is the 'learn2flank' comment which... Not gonna lie, sort of rubs me the wrong way. Part of the argument that there's no viable CQC counter to the Heavy is that they turn just as fast as any other suit. Flanking is great but unless you can apply such massive damage as to outright kill them in less time than it takes them to turn around; there's an issue involved. First shot capabilities are always great but we're talking about a lot of damage coming back if they live through it.

It has a lot to do with map design as well as some maps (in particular the new Gallente maps) offer complete aerial cover; so kiss OB/DS support goodbye. Some of those maps have one way in and one way out, which poses a pretty hefty problem in the hallway/corridor like structure of the building's design. I'm sure heavies love this because it's true point defense but it begs the question: How do you counter it?