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XxGhazbaranxX
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
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Posted - 2014.03.17 12:42:00 -
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We are winning by a very large margin, it's us about 30 clones and they have about 15 left, suddenly they bring out 5 militia blaster tanks and win in a matter of minutes.
Ambush has become a mode where the team with most tanks win. Just finished another one(not OMS). we lost 0 to 30. They had 5 tanks since the start of the match. Our team tried to call in tanks but every time anyone tried to call tanks to counter theirs they where instantly railed and blasted before they could either be deployed or the person got in the tank.
Is this right? Why?
Plasma Cannon Advocate
Heavy event survivor
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Cenex Langly
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
648
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Posted - 2014.03.17 12:46:00 -
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XxGhazbaranxX wrote:We are winning by a very large margin, it's us about 30 clones and they have about 15 left, suddenly they bring out 5 militia blaster tanks and win in a matter of minutes.
Ambush has become a mode where the team with most tanks win. Just finished another one(not OMS). we lost 0 to 30. They had 5 tanks since the start of the match. Our team tried to call in tanks but every time anyone tried to call tanks to counter theirs they where instantly railed and blasted before they could either be deployed or the person got in the tank.
Is this right? Why?
And this is exactly the reason why I no longer play this game on a regular basis. This happens every single match. It's absurd that 5 players can completely change the course of the battle. It's so bad that when it happens I just log out completely for the rest of the day.
Maybe CCP will recognize the problem isn't the players but the game mechanic and fix it.... Maybe... It may be 6 months from now so hopefully you have more patience than me and others. I'm pretty much over this game lol
Newb
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
1089
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Posted - 2014.03.17 12:48:00 -
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Don't play ambush. Skirmish and domination are better... not perfect, but better.
"I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
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Cenex Langly
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
648
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Posted - 2014.03.17 12:52:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Don't play ambush. Skirmish and domination are better... not perfect, but better.
I played ambush only for this event, to get my ten games in as quickly as possible. Haven't played ambush since November last year! I only play domination now, and even that is complete garbage mode with the tank spam. I think I play maybe 2-5 matches a week now... If that.
Newb
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Hansei Kaizen
The Jackson Five
16
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Posted - 2014.03.17 12:58:00 -
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XxGhazbaranxX wrote:
Is this right?
No it isn't. I hear ye.
I don't know. Hope it's getting fixed soon. Until then: Play Skirmish or Domination and try to develop "tank avoiding tactics" in any case. Look for spaces on the map where they can't get you and don't linger in open spaces. |
ResistanceGTA
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
539
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Posted - 2014.03.17 13:05:00 -
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I ran through ambushes for my alts yesterday. Each one, I made a Militia Rail Tank and just drove around the map. Sometimes I'd kill people, other times I'd just drive around exploring Ambush maps (I don't play Ambush). Anytime the enemy team pulled out a Blaster Tank, I was there to take it's sights off my bluedots.
Scary part, I killed multiple Proto Blaster tanks (around 5), and all were point blank kills, no mountain sniping for me. One was an Alliance mate, though I'll probably never mention it to him. That one was the saddest of all the kills. Complete lack of situational awareness and greed was his downfall.
xSivartx is my Heavy. There are many like him, but he is my own...
So, other Logi's back off, those are my Warpoints!
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Tau Lai
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2014.03.17 13:05:00 -
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Don't rush against CCP. Just flow with it.
Buy a tank. |
Alain Le Victorious
Nyain San Renegade Alliance
8
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Posted - 2014.03.17 13:10:00 -
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Look just get a rail tank because with 1.8 coming out tanks are going to be gods on the battlefield and no one can stop it.
Best Black Gay Tanker in the game
Pitcher in the streets catcher in the sheets
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Harpyja
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1294
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Posted - 2014.03.17 13:12:00 -
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Problem: tank spam
Primary Cause: low to zero cost tanks (both ISK and SP) are as effective as high cost tanks
Secondary Cause: scrubs that want to spend less, require less skill, and yet be more effective than a proto suit
Solution: make SP investment actually worthwhile other than better cooldowns. A 0 SP militia tank should not be able to stand up to even advanced AV, while a maxed skill tank with a smart pilot should be able to give proto AV a challenge.
"By His light, and His will"
- The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
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ReGnYuM
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
2500
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Posted - 2014.03.17 13:23:00 -
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Remove vehicles from Non-Objective based Game modes
My SP GAP carries me.
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
260
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Posted - 2014.03.17 13:26:00 -
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Yet people are QQing in a thread I made that tanks should be limited to 4 per match instead of 6.
bamboo x (Heavy Machine Gun) you
bamboo x (Ion or Scrambler Pistol) you
bamboo x (Forge Gun) you
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Sam Booty
Valor Coalition
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Posted - 2014.03.17 13:32:00 -
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In my opinion, the best AV right now is the rail tank (and maybe for 1.8 too) but this isn't a solution because by the time you get in Ambush it might be too late. I think they should make tanks/dropships very expensive like starting price of 2 mil ISK.
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Ayures II
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
557
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Posted - 2014.03.17 13:36:00 -
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Solution: Bring your own tank |
XxGhazbaranxX
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
1103
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Posted - 2014.03.17 13:38:00 -
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Ayures II wrote:Solution: Bring your own tank
Too lazy didnt read?? If you had read you would have known poeople tried bringing in tanks
Plasma Cannon Advocate
Heavy event survivor
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Sana Rayya
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men.
1076
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Posted - 2014.03.17 13:39:00 -
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Let's separate ambush back into regular Ambush and Ambush OMS.
No vehicles permitted in 50 clone ambushes. Vehicles allowed in Ambush OMS only, and allow neutral installations to attack any nearby vehicles if fired upon, regardless of red or blue. |
Ansiiis The Trustworthy
Mocking Bird Inc.
854
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Posted - 2014.03.17 13:42:00 -
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Was in a match against duna squad (they didn't invite me as they were full). Spawned in the opposite side with my sweet gunnlogi. Killed 4 tanks in 30 seconds. Reloaded and killed the fifth. Got an invite afterwards.
There are many like it but this one is mine.
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Luk Manag
of Terror TRE GAFFEL
342
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Posted - 2014.03.17 14:28:00 -
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1.7 is CCP's first attempt at vehicle tiericide (fail idea). I'd say it is just incomplete, and will be resolved by ADV and million isk PRO tanks (along with an AV buff). 0SP tanks will cease being automatic *I-win buttons.
There will be bullets. ACR+SMG
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LAVALLOIS Nash
QcGOLD
38
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Posted - 2014.03.17 14:44:00 -
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XxGhazbaranxX wrote:We are winning by a very large margin, it's us about 30 clones and they have about 15 left, suddenly they bring out 5 militia blaster tanks and win in a matter of minutes.
Ambush has become a mode where the team with most tanks win. Just finished another one(not OMS). we lost 0 to 30. They had 5 tanks since the start of the match. Our team tried to call in tanks but every time anyone tried to call tanks to counter theirs they where instantly railed and blasted before they could either be deployed or the person got in the tank.
Is this right? Why?
Well for the first part...is it right? Absolutely! You guys had 30 they had 15 left. Obviously you guys had no qualms about crushing them and winning the game. So they pulled a tactic available to them and snatched victory out of the jaws of defeat. Now if it was more like 17-15 left, it would have been too close a fight to call in tanks. But you people put them on the retreat, so they retreated, regrouped, rearmed and charged. You cant expect to go around crushing people and then have them not rise up and crush you back.
The 2nd one, blame your team for that. At the beginning of every Ambush/Ambush OMS, I start the match by fleeing as far from the combat as I can and planting uplinks at the edge of the map, This allows people on my team to spawn far enough away from the fight to be able to call in vehicles.
Its really rare that I will call in a tank in Ambush/Ambush OMS. But really, as a lone wolf, Its something that has to be done to even the odds sometimes. These squads go around fighting people 6 vs 1. So if i have a tank, that evens the odds.
If we want to talk about "right", then look; If these 6 man squads line up and wait their turn to fight me 1 vs 1, then I will never call in a tank ever again. But until that happens, people got no choice. You need heavy armor to absorb the damage of 5 weapons while you engage the 6th. |
PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Reapers' Assailant
928
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Posted - 2014.03.17 14:51:00 -
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Sam Booty wrote:In my opinion, the best AV right now is the rail tank (and maybe for 1.8 too) but this isn't a solution because by the time you get in Ambush it might be too late. I think they should make tanks/dropships very expensive like starting price of 2 mil ISK.
Not the DS. I like my already super expensive Incubus. And what better why to p!ss off a EZ-mode tanker than to 2-shot him, basically saying, 'Yeah I can do that sh!t too *****.' I only target installations and vehicles.
Psycho Scout
Speedy McFaster- Psycho Logi
Cool McCoolNess- Psycho Pilot
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