DUST Search - Heavies with Rail Rifles

NextDark Knight wrote:

CommanderBolt wrote:

I love it how the forge gun flies even further under peoples radar these days. That gun is probably one of the most underestimated in the game, along with the scrambler pistol.

oops, spoke too loud...

Negative, The Forge Gun has been nerfed consecutively over time to the point where it's performs like a light weapon class. The things that made it great for a heavy weapon plus all the draw backs of running a heavy frame where removed when the ROF was increased.

That ROF Increased doesn't allow you to defend yourself well in CQC.

Some shenanigans went on with out CCP giving out real stat, The Forge Gun also use to work like a long range mass driver. Yet with a reduced splash was a major nerf as well. The old splash allowed you to defend yourself and made the weapon shine. Now it under performs for the money spent and the draw backs of running a heavy it's better just to run something else.

I still pull it out now and then to try to relive some of the magic because the rag doll effect with it is amazing, but it is quickly put away. All the long range riffle weapons give little point to running the heavy frame unless it's a special situation.

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8213 BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1782	Posted - 2014.03.17 09:56:00 - [1] - Quote Its not your fault. CCP only gave you one AI weapon and one AV weapon. All that SP to gain access to two whole guns. . . I ain't got time for dat sh!t
Chibi Andy Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 1048	Posted - 2014.03.17 10:20:00 - [2] - Quote im just wondering if CCP will be releasing AI & AV heavy weapons. for example the caldari already have the FG for AV purposes. but will the caldari have a AI heavy weapon? or will they only have the FG. so basically each race has two heavy weapons, one for AV and the other for AI YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED!!! sç+a¦át¢èa¦á)sç+ (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
Alena Ventrallis The Neutral Zone 847	Posted - 2014.03.17 10:28:00 - [3] - Quote I would guess that there would be one heavy weapon per race, and it would be either AP (anti-personnel, the proper term for AI) or AV. So like the Caldari and Amarr would have an AV weapon, and Gallente and Minmatar would have an AP heavy weapon. Best PVE idea I've seen.
Mad Syringe ReDust Inc. 205	Posted - 2014.03.17 10:32:00 - [4] - Quote I'd say Gallente get a short range AV weapon, and Amarr get a long range AP weapon. Otherwise we wouldn't have long(er) range heavy weapons... But i might be wrong with that. Wasn't there talk about that already, like a "Scrambler Lance" for the Amarr and a "Plasma Mortar" for the gallente?
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 1925	Posted - 2014.03.17 10:35:00 - [5] - Quote Mad Syringe wrote: "Scrambler Lance" Holy crap, I support this. Let us use it in the passenger seat of LAVS! That would be boss. "Go ahead and dual tank. My Commando dual ganks." -Kasote Denzara I'm waiting for my G-I suit. It's what I want.
Patrlck 56 0	Posted - 2014.03.17 10:47:00 - [6] - Quote Lol, most RR Heavies aren't even real Heavies, and are just looking to have 1000+ HP with an easy mode weapon. I see them all the time wearing a Militia Amarr Heavy Frame. And I still kill them just as easily.
Seigfried Warheit Caught Me With My Pants Down 222	Posted - 2014.03.17 10:53:00 - [7] - Quote Patrlck 56 wrote: Lol, most RR Heavies aren't even real Heavies, and are just looking to have 1000+ HP with an easy mode weapon. I see them all the time wearing a Militia Amarr Heavy Frame. And I still kill them just as easily. ......even with magnetic bullets they cant aim for theirs lives
Chibi Andy Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 1048	Posted - 2014.03.17 12:12:00 - [8] - Quote Seigfried Warheit wrote: Patrlck 56 wrote: Lol, most RR Heavies aren't even real Heavies, and are just looking to have 1000+ HP with an easy mode weapon. I see them all the time wearing a Militia Amarr Heavy Frame. And I still kill them just as easily. ......even with magnetic bullets they cant aim for theirs lives lol i've bumped into those wannabe heavies with their RR but my HMG still wins when it comes to CQC against them since most of them think that just because they have a mlt heavy frame they can come into CQC space and win, well my HMG has taught them a lesson they wont forget hehe YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED!!! sç+a¦át¢èa¦á)sç+ (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
OliX PRZESMIEWCA Bezimienni... 55	Posted - 2014.03.17 12:14:00 - [9] - Quote Patrlck 56 wrote: Lol, most RR Heavies aren't even real Heavies, and are just looking to have 1000+ HP with an easy mode weapon. I see them all the time wearing a Militia Amarr Heavy Frame. And I still kill them just as easily. So why U keep complaining about them. Kill one and STFU
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 3164	Posted - 2014.03.17 12:16:00 - [10] - Quote There is so much crying about it, I may just have to do it. I GÖú Kittens.

CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION 1052	Posted - 2014.03.17 12:19:00 - [11] - Quote I love it how the forge gun flies even further under peoples radar these days. That gun is probably one of the most underestimated in the game, along with the scrambler pistol. oops, spoke too loud... Investigate 9/11
Asha Starwind DUST University Ivy League 510	Posted - 2014.03.17 12:23:00 - [12] - Quote 8213 wrote: Its not your fault. CCP only gave you one AI weapon and one AV weapon. All that SP to gain access to two whole guns. . . Basic Rail Rifle+Basic Heavy Frame/A-1 Sent If they weren't sporting that combo every time, I'd be inclined to agree with you. 32db Mad Bomber.
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2000	Posted - 2014.03.17 12:26:00 - [13] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: I love it how the forge gun flies even further under peoples radar these days. That gun is probably one of the most underestimated in the game, along with the scrambler pistol. oops, spoke too loud... The scrambler pistol will ruin a suit, fast. I wish I was a better shot so I could pull more tears. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
NextDark Knight Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 291	Posted - 2014.03.17 12:29:00 - [14] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: I love it how the forge gun flies even further under peoples radar these days. That gun is probably one of the most underestimated in the game, along with the scrambler pistol. oops, spoke too loud... Negative, The Forge Gun has been nerfed consecutively over time to the point where it's performs like a light weapon class. The things that made it great for a heavy weapon plus all the draw backs of running a heavy frame where removed when the ROF was increased. That ROF Increased doesn't allow you to defend yourself well in CQC. Some shenanigans went on with out CCP giving out real stat, The Forge Gun also use to work like a long range mass driver. Yet with a reduced splash was a major nerf as well. The old splash allowed you to defend yourself and made the weapon shine. Now it under performs for the money spent and the draw backs of running a heavy it's better just to run something else. I still pull it out now and then to try to relive some of the magic because the rag doll effect with it is amazing, but it is quickly put away. All the long range riffle weapons give little point to running the heavy frame unless it's a special situation. Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1. Original ROF needs to return!
Banjo Robertson Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 97	Posted - 2014.03.17 12:30:00 - [15] - Quote Gallente sentinel with RR and magsec SMG incoming for 1.8
Bax Zanith 89	Posted - 2014.03.17 12:30:00 - [16] - Quote I once had a RR heavy fit, I latter replaced the heavy frame with a starter fit and nothing really changed other then I can now carry equipment. Is it realy the heavy wealding the RR you hate, or the RR itselfe? A FOTM has the same amount of HP as the heavy, but I havent seen a thread about them. Is there realy that much of a difference? I'd say walk in my shoes for a day, but you probably still won't understand.
Chibi Andy Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 1049	Posted - 2014.03.17 12:40:00 - [17] - Quote NextDark Knight wrote: CommanderBolt wrote: I love it how the forge gun flies even further under peoples radar these days. That gun is probably one of the most underestimated in the game, along with the scrambler pistol. oops, spoke too loud... Negative, The Forge Gun has been nerfed consecutively over time to the point where it's performs like a light weapon class. The things that made it great for a heavy weapon plus all the draw backs of running a heavy frame where removed when the ROF was increased. That ROF Increased doesn't allow you to defend yourself well in CQC. Some shenanigans went on with out CCP giving out real stat, The Forge Gun also use to work like a long range mass driver. Yet with a reduced splash was a major nerf as well. The old splash allowed you to defend yourself and made the weapon shine. Now it under performs for the money spent and the draw backs of running a heavy it's better just to run something else. I still pull it out now and then to try to relive some of the magic because the rag doll effect with it is amazing, but it is quickly put away. All the long range riffle weapons give little point to running the heavy frame unless it's a special situation. don't forget that the FG had its charge time increased by 1 sec. that 1 sec seems like a really long time especially when against a tank. i just love it when you see a red cartwheel in the air after being hit by my FG YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED!!! sç+a¦át¢èa¦á)sç+ (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
Oxskull Duncarino 0uter.Heaven 493	Posted - 2014.03.17 12:59:00 - [18] - Quote NextDark Knight wrote: CommanderBolt wrote: I love it how the forge gun flies even further under peoples radar these days. That gun is probably one of the most underestimated in the game, along with the scrambler pistol. oops, spoke too loud... Negative, The Forge Gun has been nerfed consecutively over time to the point where it's performs like a light weapon class. The things that made it great for a heavy weapon plus all the draw backs of running a heavy frame where removed when the ROF was increased. That ROF Increased doesn't allow you to defend yourself well in CQC. Some shenanigans went on with out CCP giving out real stat, The Forge Gun also use to work like a long range mass driver. Yet with a reduced splash was a major nerf as well. The old splash allowed you to defend yourself and made the weapon shine. Now it under performs for the money spent and the draw backs of running a heavy it's better just to run something else. I still pull it out now and then to try to relive some of the magic because the rag doll effect with it is amazing, but it is quickly put away. All the long range riffle weapons give little point to running the heavy frame unless it's a special situation. I'm 100% with you on the charge time, as that needs to be reverted back to what it was. To much time between shots is making it tough to deal with HAVs, although it's still good. I'm 100% AGAINST this view that the splash radius reduction was detrimental. The forgegun is still viable as both close and long range AV, and in good hands is an absolute beast at AP duties in mid to long range. All the splash did was allow scrubs to sit up high and just spam areas with forgeguns. Because it is so powerful it should not be in any way viable in CQB, except for a few gifted people. Ya want CQB defense options then skill into a decent sidearm. The Magsec on paper looks like it will be the go to sidearm for any future AV roles. I can understand the fun it used to be to use the old forgegun tower camping or in CQB, but like the old dumbfire swarms and the carpet bomb flaylock, it had to change for the good of the whole game.
Chibi Andy Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 1049	Posted - 2014.03.17 13:07:00 - [19] - Quote who knows, maybe CCP might go full circle with the FG just like they did with the MD since thats what CCP seems to like doing, nerf something and then buff the same thing again etc etc YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED!!! sç+a¦át¢èa¦á)sç+ (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
Hoover Damn H.A.R.V.E.S.T. Legacy Rising 69	Posted - 2014.03.17 13:15:00 - [20] - Quote I regularly run an A-I heavy frame with a scrambler rifle and armour reppers. I use it to kill scrubs who think they can hide behind an abundance of complex armour plates and/or shield extenders. Thanks to CCP, you actually have to be a better shot than I am to kill me when I'm not in my glass minlogi frame.

NextDark Knight Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 292	Posted - 2014.03.17 14:28:00 - [21] - Quote Chibi Andy wrote: who knows, maybe CCP might go full circle with the FG just like they did with the MD since thats what CCP seems to like doing, nerf something and then buff the same thing again etc etc If I had a million alts I'd put a like with each one of them. Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1. Original ROF needs to return!
Paran Tadec The Hetairoi 1968	Posted - 2014.03.17 14:34:00 - [22] - Quote Chibi Andy wrote: im just wondering if CCP will be releasing AI & AV heavy weapons. for example the caldari already have the FG for AV purposes. but will the caldari have a AI heavy weapon? or will they only have the FG. so basically each race has two heavy weapons, one for AV and the other for AI Caldari Rocket pod launcher.... Bittervet Proficiency V thanks logibro!
Ivy Zalinto Bobbit's Hangmen 315	Posted - 2014.03.17 14:41:00 - [23] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: I love it how the forge gun flies even further under peoples radar these days. That gun is probably one of the most underestimated in the game, along with the scrambler pistol. oops, spoke too loud... I dont condone the use of scrambler pistols against noobs...but its still so much fun XD Dedicated Stealth Scout. Scout instructor; Learning Coalition Scrambler Pistol dedication
Oxskull Duncarino 0uter.Heaven 493	Posted - 2014.03.17 14:44:00 - [24] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: Chibi Andy wrote: im just wondering if CCP will be releasing AI & AV heavy weapons. for example the caldari already have the FG for AV purposes. but will the caldari have a AI heavy weapon? or will they only have the FG. so basically each race has two heavy weapons, one for AV and the other for AI Caldari Rocket pod launcher.... Gal duel plasma cannon armed drone AV


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