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TunRa D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 509	Posted - 2014.03.17 02:21:00 - [1] - Quote http://www.protofits.com/fittings Scan profile - 28.33 Scan precision - 41.09 Adv cloak BDR-2 Repair tool KIN-012 Thanks CCP Foxfour
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 1337	Posted - 2014.03.17 02:22:00 - [2] - Quote yah... that doesnt link the fitting you made FYI
TunRa D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 509	Posted - 2014.03.17 02:24:00 - [3] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: yah... that doesnt link the fitting you made FYI Damnit...One sec Thanks CCP Foxfour
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 5805	Posted - 2014.03.17 02:24:00 - [4] - Quote You linked the fitting incorrectly. AV > HAV > INF > AV \| Not: HAV > AV GëÑ INF [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Arirana Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 453	Posted - 2014.03.17 02:26:00 - [5] - Quote Fittings >>>> Detailed View >>>> Share >>>> Copy paste designated link I have an ego?! O.O The scales have fallen from my eyes.
TunRa D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 509	Posted - 2014.03.17 02:31:00 - [6] - Quote Did it work now? Thanks CCP Foxfour
Skihids Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 3058	Posted - 2014.03.17 02:42:00 - [7] - Quote No
CRYPT3C W0LF Auraxis Special Forces 447	Posted - 2014.03.17 02:43:00 - [8] - Quote You're link is sorta broken lol Cloak Engaged~ Can I Haz A Cheezburger? SlayerScout, I feast on you're Proto Remains!:)
Adelia Lafayette Science For Death 725	Posted - 2014.03.17 02:44:00 - [9] - Quote sneaky logi is so sneaky it hides from its own link Assault dropship gets blown up.... (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ "Kitten this I'm out"... ..."I'm back"
TunRa D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 509	Posted - 2014.03.17 02:45:00 - [10] - Quote I swear it was there a second ago. Now I'm getting mad... Thanks CCP Foxfour

Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 1337	Posted - 2014.03.17 02:49:00 - [11] - Quote just a side note, if anyone else uses that site it will show the fit they worked on last instead of yours
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 5809	Posted - 2014.03.17 02:51:00 - [12] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: just a side note, if anyone else uses that site it will show the fit they worked on last instead of yours It's a bug, as it was working properly beforehand. Though you can still see the fitting by visiting the "All Shared" section on the homepage. AV > HAV > INF > AV \| Not: HAV > AV GëÑ INF [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
TunRa D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 509	Posted - 2014.03.17 02:52:00 - [13] - Quote Attempted to fix the link one last time, I also changed a little bit of it. And if it doesn't I posted the important parts in the OP. Thanks CCP Foxfour
Brolaire of Asstoria Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 232	Posted - 2014.03.17 02:54:00 - [14] - Quote Nope still seeing a blank fitting screen... I hear voices all the time... I just ignore them and keep on killing...
TunRa D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 509	Posted - 2014.03.17 02:56:00 - [15] - Quote Brolaire of Asstoria wrote: Nope still seeing a blank fitting screen... Whatever import **** is in the OP now. Thanks CCP Foxfour
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 2447	Posted - 2014.03.17 03:01:00 - [16] - Quote That thing has less HP then a scout suit. If you want to fit a proper cloak go and get a scout instead. I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1985	Posted - 2014.03.17 03:08:00 - [17] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: That thing has less HP then a scout suit. If you want to fit a proper cloak go and get a scout instead. Being proper and being a specialized fit is two different things. I may have a purpose, I wouldn't use it but some may and those whom do are the ones who interest me the most. Having a highly specialized suit is the back bone of DUST and I encourage any fit that steps out of the norm and tries something different. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
TunRa D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 509	Posted - 2014.03.17 03:10:00 - [18] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: That thing has less HP then a scout suit. If you want to fit a proper cloak go and get a scout instead. But then you can't revive/repair. Thanks CCP Foxfour
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 823	Posted - 2014.03.17 03:35:00 - [19] - Quote If you can't see it: Minmatar Logi AK.0 Highs: - Advanced Precision Enhancer - 2x Enhanced Shield Extenders Lows: - 3x Complex Profile Dampners - Complex CPU Extender Equip: - ARN-18 Cloak - BDR-2 Rep Tool - KIN-012 Nanite Injector Weapon: - Combat Rifle Nade: - (None)
Crazy Cat Lady Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 91	Posted - 2014.03.17 04:04:00 - [20] - Quote What is the purpose of this suite? If you are intending to use it as a Logi it doesn't make much sense. Rep tools require you to be in close vicinity to injured people which will 1) give away your location (they wont be dampened) and 2) put you close to action (which your ridiculously low HP wont be able to handle). So what is the strategic reason for the rep tool on this fit? How were you planning on using it to benefit with the cloak/dampeners? The nanite injector is also a bit confusing.. You might cloak to get to a downed team mate without being seen but... is that not just suggesting that it is unsafe to pick that person up in the first place??? And no one likes a war point whoring pickup that gets them killed instantly. I am interested in ways that a logi might use a cloak strategically to benefit the team.. but I think it may be more about uplinks, remote placements or more informed scans (now that snapshot scans are coming in)?

Cyrus Grevare WarRavens League of Infamy 121	Posted - 2014.03.17 04:25:00 - [21] - Quote Honest question, What are the obstacles you guys face when 'sharing' fittings, I've seen some struggle with it, I'm trying to make it an easy process, if there's something I'm not seeing I'd really appreciate someone letting me know. Regards. www.protofits.com - a fitting tool project
TunRa D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 510	Posted - 2014.03.17 21:54:00 - [22] - Quote Cyrus Grevare wrote: Honest question, What are the obstacles you guys face when 'sharing' fittings, I've seen some struggle with it, I'm trying to make it an easy process, if there's something I'm not seeing I'd really appreciate someone letting me know. Regards. Well I couldn't register an account, that was the first problem. Then the first link I posted was apparently blank, I saw the link as a blank fitting wheel too. But from what someone posted earlier it was pretty straight forward. Thanks CCP Foxfour
TunRa D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 510	Posted - 2014.03.17 21:56:00 - [23] - Quote Crazy Cat Lady wrote: What is the purpose of this suite? If you are intending to use it as a Logi it doesn't make much sense. Rep tools require you to be in close vicinity to injured people which will 1) give away your location (they wont be dampened) and 2) put you close to action (which your ridiculously low HP wont be able to handle). So what is the strategic reason for the rep tool on this fit? How were you planning on using it to benefit with the cloak/dampeners? The nanite injector is also a bit confusing.. You might cloak to get to a downed team mate without being seen but... is that not just suggesting that it is unsafe to pick that person up in the first place??? And no one likes a war point whoring pickup that gets them killed instantly. I am interested in ways that a logi might use a cloak strategically to benefit the team.. but I think it may be more about uplinks, remote placements or more informed scans (now that snapshot scans are coming in)? I was thinking more of rep/reviving then if the position gets overrun instead of dying you can cloak. After the enemy leave the area you unclock and pick your guys back up who are now on the enemies flank and ready to surprise attack them. Of course that requires the enemy to move through your line quickly and leave quickly so all your blues don't bleed out. Thanks CCP Foxfour
Bojo The Mighty L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 3501	Posted - 2014.03.17 21:59:00 - [24] - Quote TunRa wrote: Scan profile - 25.17 Scan precision - 42.5 Hahaha Still gets scanned by Gallogi 68 inches above sea level...
CRNWLLC Screwy Rabbit ULC 113	Posted - 2014.03.17 22:15:00 - [25] - Quote TunRa wrote: http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/0/841 If it still didn't work here is what it looks like ADV cloak BDR-2 Repair tool KIN-012 Nanite Scan profile - 25.17 Scan precision - 42.5 Meh--can't do anything while cloaked, and with a long cool off and brief activation time, it sort of mitigates it's usefulness for a medic-type role. Not sure how you're arriving at the 25.17 number... are you including a complex profile damp with max profile dampening skill? Does it reflect the 25% bonus while cloaked, because if so, that number is only true part of the time. In any case, you will be picked up by any scout suit with max precision enhancement skill and two complex precision enhancers, none of which you'll notice because they all start with a base profile of 35. Watch your back! My other dropsuit is a Python.
TunRa D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 510	Posted - 2014.03.17 22:22:00 - [26] - Quote CRNWLLC wrote: TunRa wrote: http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/0/841 If it still didn't work here is what it looks like ADV cloak BDR-2 Repair tool KIN-012 Nanite Scan profile - 25.17 Scan precision - 42.5 Meh--can't do anything while cloaked, and with a long cool off and brief activation time, it sort of mitigates it's usefulness for a medic-type role. Not sure how you're arriving at the 25.17 number... are you including a complex profile damp with max profile dampening skill? Does it reflect the 25% bonus while cloaked, because if so, that number is only true part of the time. In any case, you will be picked up by any scout suit with max precision enhancement skill and two complex precision enhancers, none of which you'll notice because they all start with a base profile of 35. Watch your back! The 25.17 is the complex dampeners nothing else. Thanks CCP Foxfour
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 13456	Posted - 2014.03.17 22:31:00 - [27] - Quote Hey Cyrus quick heads up, equipment bonus doesn't apply to cloaks and all your 1.7 suits have 1.8 bonuses. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
Cyrus Grevare WarRavens League of Infamy 122	Posted - 2014.03.17 23:26:00 - [28] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Hey Cyrus quick heads up, equipment bonus doesn't apply to cloaks and all your 1.7 suits have 1.8 bonuses. They don't? hmhm I thought equipment bonus from logi applied to ALL equipment, so then for this equipment bonus Cloaks are the only 'equipment' left out? ...or are there others? www.protofits.com - a fitting tool project
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 13465	Posted - 2014.03.18 00:48:00 - [29] - Quote Cyrus Grevare wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Hey Cyrus quick heads up, equipment bonus doesn't apply to cloaks and all your 1.7 suits have 1.8 bonuses. They don't? hmhm I thought equipment bonus from logi applied to ALL equipment, so then for this equipment bonus Cloaks are the only 'equipment' left out? ...or are there others? I need to be more thorough with my reading. Where is this posted? Still looking how to make the 1.7 - 1.8 transition internally, really wished CCP answered some of my questions . For now it looks like I'll do a mass update when the new SDE lands. Some skills right now overlap to allow playing with both current and future content, applying both a skills at the same time or skills to 'older' content will likely produce wonky results Been poking ccp with it CCP Logibro stated that the cloak doesn't count for the bonus. But yeah spreadsheet warriors are lauded for this reason alone. Erroneous Spreadsheets and Tools not at fault for the developer at times. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 2451	Posted - 2014.03.18 01:08:00 - [30] - Quote So the cloak is not a equipment? This switches things up and means that nobody will be aible to use it except scouts. Well allmost but you have to sacrifice alot off stuff to get it working. Like a proto suit with basic shield extenders and a standard gun etc. And even then its going to be extreme hard to fit. Eventually you could get this to work on a caldari logistic. Put nothing as PG upgrades and CPU mods in the low slot and pray that it will work. I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun

Bojo The Mighty L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 3508	Posted - 2014.03.18 01:36:00 - [31] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: So the cloak is not a equipment? This switches things up and means that nobody will be aible to use it except scouts. Well allmost but you have to sacrifice alot off stuff to get it working. Like a proto suit with basic shield extenders and a standard gun etc. And even then its going to be extreme hard to fit. Eventually you could get this to work on a caldari logistic. Put nothing as PG upgrades and CPU mods in the low slot and pray that it will work. Uh yeah, that was the point 68 inches above sea level...
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 2421	Posted - 2014.03.18 02:11:00 - [32] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: The dark cloud wrote: So the cloak is not a equipment? This switches things up and means that nobody will be aible to use it except scouts. Well allmost but you have to sacrifice alot off stuff to get it working. Like a proto suit with basic shield extenders and a standard gun etc. And even then its going to be extreme hard to fit. Eventually you could get this to work on a caldari logistic. Put nothing as PG upgrades and CPU mods in the low slot and pray that it will work. Uh yeah, that was the point Yeah, I'm pretty sure those were logibro/remnants exact words. "The fitting costs are insane" "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.2 Amarr victor!
I-Shayz-I I-----I 2542	Posted - 2014.03.18 04:05:00 - [33] - Quote Crazy Cat Lady wrote: I am interested in ways that a logi might use a cloak strategically to benefit the team.. but I think it may be more about uplinks, remote placements or more informed scans (now that snapshot scans are coming in)? My current prototype fittings: Core focused, injector, allotek hive, flux uplink (super support, no dampener) BDR-8, injector, allotek hive, quantum scan (general support, dampened) Injector, allotek hive, quantum scan, stable uplink (solo work, dampened) Using anything but the basic scanner wouldn't work well on a logi without having to also use cpu/pg mods...but it's not like the advanced or proto scanners give you a huge advantage (only extends the duration of cloaked...and basic is already 30 seconds). Personally, the only reason I would use a cloak would be to run away when I'm low on health. This gives me a better option than sitting on a rep hive hoping that no one spawns, or trying to run away on open ground. Also, the only reason I use complex dampeners is to prevent scans and to take cover from enemies inside their own objective (you don't even know how effective this works) I guess with the new 20% inherent hacking bonus minmatar logi gets in 1.8, (or 15% for the other racials), you could create some crazy speed hacking/dampened suits too. Being able to hack and objective, hide in a corner, cloak, and then kill anyone who tries to counterhack seems like an awesome strategy. Although scouts might have the speed and stealth without modules, a minmatar logi will still work quite well for this style of gameplay. Even if it's not meant for logistics, I will probably have a few fittings with the cloak anyways because I enjoy versatility a lot. Links: List of Most Important Threads I make logistics videos!
Sgt Buttscratch Condotta Rouvenor 2066	Posted - 2014.03.18 04:10:00 - [34] - Quote I've been messing around with the fittings, can sneak up commandos, logis, ass salts, not sentinels.... I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
I-Shayz-I I-----I 2542	Posted - 2014.03.18 04:25:00 - [35] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: So the cloak is not a equipment? I'm not sure if someone else already said this but it's labeled as a "utility". Not sure if this means they'll introduce other items that fit in the equipment slots that will be utilities (bubble shield is the only other one I know of), or if this was a one-time deal. As for your concern about it being unusable by other suits...think about how much a prototype weapon costs vs an adv, and how much complex shield extenders/damage mods cost. The basic cloak will be relatively easy to fit on most prototype suits, especially logistics. However you should expect to sacrifice some things in order to fit a cloak. Heck, even the scouts without prototype suits unlocked will have some trouble fitting the advanced cloak. Links: List of Most Important Threads I make logistics videos!
CRNWLLC Screwy Rabbit ULC 113	Posted - 2014.03.18 17:28:00 - [36] - Quote TunRa wrote: CRNWLLC wrote: TunRa wrote: http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/0/841 If it still didn't work here is what it looks like ADV cloak BDR-2 Repair tool KIN-012 Nanite Scan profile - 25.17 Scan precision - 42.5 Meh--can't do anything while cloaked, and with a long cool off and brief activation time, it sort of mitigates it's usefulness for a medic-type role. Not sure how you're arriving at the 25.17 number... are you including a complex profile damp with max profile dampening skill? Does it reflect the 25% bonus while cloaked, because if so, that number is only true part of the time. In any case, you will be picked up by any scout suit with max precision enhancement skill and two complex precision enhancers, none of which you'll notice because they all start with a base profile of 35. Watch your back! The 25.17 is the complex dampeners nothing else. Gotcha, thanks for the clarification--I missed your link somehow. My other dropsuit is a Python.


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