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Bojo The Mighty
L.O.T.I.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.03.18 01:36:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:So the cloak is not a equipment? This switches things up and means that nobody will be aible to use it except scouts. Well allmost but you have to sacrifice alot off stuff to get it working. Like a proto suit with basic shield extenders and a standard gun etc. And even then its going to be extreme hard to fit. Eventually you could get this to work on a caldari logistic. Put nothing as PG upgrades and CPU mods in the low slot and pray that it will work.
Uh yeah, that was the point
68 inches above sea level...
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
League of Infamy
2421
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Posted - 2014.03.18 02:11:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:The dark cloud wrote:So the cloak is not a equipment? This switches things up and means that nobody will be aible to use it except scouts. Well allmost but you have to sacrifice alot off stuff to get it working. Like a proto suit with basic shield extenders and a standard gun etc. And even then its going to be extreme hard to fit. Eventually you could get this to work on a caldari logistic. Put nothing as PG upgrades and CPU mods in the low slot and pray that it will work. Uh yeah, that was the point
Yeah, I'm pretty sure those were logibro/remnants exact words. "The fitting costs are insane"
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
Forum Warrior lv.2
Amarr victor!
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I-Shayz-I
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Posted - 2014.03.18 04:05:00 -
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Crazy Cat Lady wrote:I am interested in ways that a logi might use a cloak strategically to benefit the team.. but I think it may be more about uplinks, remote placements or more informed scans (now that snapshot scans are coming in)?
My current prototype fittings:
Core focused, injector, allotek hive, flux uplink (super support, no dampener)
BDR-8, injector, allotek hive, quantum scan (general support, dampened)
Injector, allotek hive, quantum scan, stable uplink (solo work, dampened)
Using anything but the basic scanner wouldn't work well on a logi without having to also use cpu/pg mods...but it's not like the advanced or proto scanners give you a huge advantage (only extends the duration of cloaked...and basic is already 30 seconds).
Personally, the only reason I would use a cloak would be to run away when I'm low on health. This gives me a better option than sitting on a rep hive hoping that no one spawns, or trying to run away on open ground. Also, the only reason I use complex dampeners is to prevent scans and to take cover from enemies inside their own objective (you don't even know how effective this works)
I guess with the new 20% inherent hacking bonus minmatar logi gets in 1.8, (or 15% for the other racials), you could create some crazy speed hacking/dampened suits too. Being able to hack and objective, hide in a corner, cloak, and then kill anyone who tries to counterhack seems like an awesome strategy. Although scouts might have the speed and stealth without modules, a minmatar logi will still work quite well for this style of gameplay.
Even if it's not meant for logistics, I will probably have a few fittings with the cloak anyways because I enjoy versatility a lot.
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Sgt Buttscratch
Condotta Rouvenor
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Posted - 2014.03.18 04:10:00 -
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I've been messing around with the fittings, can sneak up commandos, logis, ass salts, not sentinels....
I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas
Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
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I-Shayz-I
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Posted - 2014.03.18 04:25:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:So the cloak is not a equipment?
I'm not sure if someone else already said this but it's labeled as a "utility". Not sure if this means they'll introduce other items that fit in the equipment slots that will be utilities (bubble shield is the only other one I know of), or if this was a one-time deal.
As for your concern about it being unusable by other suits...think about how much a prototype weapon costs vs an adv, and how much complex shield extenders/damage mods cost.
The basic cloak will be relatively easy to fit on most prototype suits, especially logistics. However you should expect to sacrifice some things in order to fit a cloak. Heck, even the scouts without prototype suits unlocked will have some trouble fitting the advanced cloak.
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CRNWLLC
Screwy Rabbit ULC
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Posted - 2014.03.18 17:28:00 -
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TunRa wrote:CRNWLLC wrote:TunRa wrote:http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/0/841
If it still didn't work here is what it looks like
ADV cloak
BDR-2 Repair tool
KIN-012 Nanite
Scan profile - 25.17
Scan precision - 42.5 Meh--can't do anything while cloaked, and with a long cool off and brief activation time, it sort of mitigates it's usefulness for a medic-type role. Not sure how you're arriving at the 25.17 number... are you including a complex profile damp with max profile dampening skill? Does it reflect the 25% bonus while cloaked, because if so, that number is only true part of the time. In any case, you will be picked up by any scout suit with max precision enhancement skill and two complex precision enhancers, none of which you'll notice because they all start with a base profile of 35. Watch your back!  The 25.17 is the complex dampeners nothing else.
Gotcha, thanks for the clarification--I missed your link somehow.
My other dropsuit is a Python.
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