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DEZKA DIABLO 0uter.Heaven 388	Posted - 2014.03.16 15:21:00 - [1] - Quote A reduction to armor plate speed penalty per level! If its gonna be slower than a min assault give it a bonus that basically turns a complex plate speed penalty to that of a basic plate or a feroscale. And keep the stamina bonus. Personally I think this would rock cuz lets face it, it's slower than a min assault and your gonna put plates on it and feroscale plates suck, so either reduce its speed penalty from normal plates or the fitting cost of feros. It's a armor scout so your gonna use plates at least one then your gonna run at least one kinetic that probably will barely give it a sprint speed of 8 and if you tank it it's gonna be a mini heavy with stamina lol. Give it a CPU pg cost reduction to fero plates or a speed penalty reduction to armor plates either or I think is a good addition to the stamina bonus or a increase to armor repair per level since the shield depleted delay and recharge are so low and it doesn't have a passive rep like gallente that makes up for the slow recharge an shield depleted delay values. Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!
Sole Fenychs Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 249	Posted - 2014.03.16 15:52:00 - [2] - Quote So you want to make the plates with the lower speed penalties, which exist specifically for this exact situation, redundant. You know what the bonus should be? Infinite stamina at lvl 5. Stamina is not valuable enough to see a 25% increase and go "wow". It needs to be at least 100% and even infinite wouldn't be broken.
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 743	Posted - 2014.03.16 15:56:00 - [3] - Quote Sole Fenychs wrote: So you want to make the plates with the lower speed penalties, which exist specifically for this exact situation, redundant. You know what the bonus should be? Infinite stamina at lvl 5. Stamina is not valuable enough to see a 25% increase and go "wow". It needs to be at least 100% and even infinite wouldn't be broken. If you think stamina has no value you have no clue about that game or are you simply camping somewhere in the redline then stamina is indeed useless. Regarding the armorplates I think speedpenalty reduction would work as well as fitting requirement reduction like 5% less CPU/PG...
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2680	Posted - 2014.03.16 15:56:00 - [4] - Quote Oh god no. I already see Gallente Scouts stacking plates. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1704	Posted - 2014.03.16 15:59:00 - [5] - Quote Yes please, do it xD. You dont know what kind of pandoras box of QQ you are opening here. Drop it like its hat.
Scheneighnay McBob Endless Hatred Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 4393	Posted - 2014.03.16 16:01:00 - [6] - Quote That sounds more like a gallente scout thing. What amarr scouts need is a reduction to feedback damage so they don't kill themselves. I am your scan error.
DEZKA DIABLO 0uter.Heaven 392	Posted - 2014.03.16 19:37:00 - [7] - Quote No cuz then every assault player is gonna go scr scout and ohk cloaks an charge shots, f that sorry Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!
Cyrius Li-Moody 3999	Posted - 2014.03.16 19:42:00 - [8] - Quote DEZKA DIABLO wrote: No cuz then every assault player is gonna go scr scout and ohk cloaks an charge shots, f that sorry Isn't that what the Amarr scout is made for? I might be going crazy here but I'm pretty sure with it's description about being able to soak up the most damage it the one that's actually meant to be a light assault. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
1st Lieutenant Tiberius 0uter.Heaven 1311	Posted - 2014.03.16 19:43:00 - [9] - Quote DEZKA DIABLO wrote: No cuz then every assault player is gonna go scr scout and ohk cloaks an charge shots, f that sorry I know I would The Sinwarden
DEZKA DIABLO 0uter.Heaven 392	Posted - 2014.03.16 19:56:00 - [10] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: DEZKA DIABLO wrote: No cuz then every assault player is gonna go scr scout and ohk cloaks an charge shots, f that sorry Isn't that what the Amarr scout is made for? I might be going crazy here but I'm pretty sure with it's description about being able to soak up the most damage it the one that's actually meant to be a light assault. So if it's supposed to soak up the damage than wouldn't you want a plate speed reduction to encourage armor without the speed of a stoned turtle? That's more along what I'm saying as far as receiving damage not giving it? Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!

DEZKA DIABLO 0uter.Heaven 392	Posted - 2014.03.16 20:01:00 - [11] - Quote DEZKA DIABLO wrote: Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: DEZKA DIABLO wrote: No cuz then every assault player is gonna go scr scout and ohk cloaks an charge shots, f that sorry Isn't that what the Amarr scout is made for? I might be going crazy here but I'm pretty sure with it's description about being able to soak up the most damage it the one that's actually meant to be a light assault. So if it's supposed to soak up the damage than wouldn't you want a plate speed reduction to encourage armor without the speed of a stoned turtle? That's more along what I'm saying as far as receiving damage not giving it? If it had a reduction to plate speed penalty or fero CPU/ pg than you can tank it and use kinetics to complement its stamina bonus, not be forced to run kinetics to level out the two plates on it if your gonna use it as a light assault Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!
Master Smurf Nos Nothi 216	Posted - 2014.03.16 20:15:00 - [12] - Quote No CPU/PG reduction to Ferroscale Plates or Modifier to Reactive Plates I wouldnt mind Gallente losing a low slot either and them having one less than the others. Alternative would be to drop one of their bonuses value per level so they arent that far from the norm. "Shine bright like a diamond"
Magnus Amadeuss Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 562	Posted - 2014.03.16 20:24:00 - [13] - Quote Master Smurf wrote: No CPU/PG reduction to Ferroscale Plates or Modifier to Reactive Plates I wouldnt mind Gallente losing a low slot either and them having one less than the others. Alternative would be to drop one of their bonuses value per level so they arent that far from the norm. waits for people to QQ about -1 slot in his amarr medium suits While there is no better place to be wealthy than the Gallente Federation, there is no hell worse for the poor either.
DEZKA DIABLO 0uter.Heaven 394	Posted - 2014.03.16 23:32:00 - [14] - Quote Master Smurf wrote: No CPU/PG reduction to Ferroscale Plates or Modifier to Reactive Plates I wouldnt mind Gallente losing a low slot either and them having one less than the others. Alternative would be to drop one of their bonuses value per level so they arent that far from the norm. Lose a low? Pretty butthurt about the amar I see Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!
One Eyed King Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 621	Posted - 2014.03.16 23:58:00 - [15] - Quote I think the Amarr scout needs a 100% QQ reduction... Looking for the scout hangout?
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8299	Posted - 2014.03.17 00:30:00 - [16] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: I think the Amarr scout needs a 100% QQ reduction... Probably when some other louder scouts realise they have not numerical support and thus are arguing off "scouty know how". Its like me arguing that heavy will be either OP or UP without either the stats or knowledge of using heavies to back myself up. " ..- -.- --. I wish I remembered morse code so I wasn't typing random letters" - Malleus Malificorum
DEZKA DIABLO 0uter.Heaven 395	Posted - 2014.03.17 00:30:00 - [17] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: I think the Amarr scout needs a 100% QQ reduction... LOl mee 2, trying to help the whiners, actually I enjoy aggravating 2 of them cuz their nonsensical Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1707	Posted - 2014.03.17 05:55:00 - [18] - Quote DEZKA DIABLO wrote: No cuz then every assault player is gonna go scr scout and ohk cloaks an charge shots, f that sorry Isnt that already happening? Why get a shotgun when the proficiency has changed to damage instead of RoF? ScR is a shotgun, and it will fit very well on a amarr/gallente scout. Drop it like its hat.
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 747	Posted - 2014.03.17 08:42:00 - [19] - Quote DEZKA DIABLO wrote: No cuz then every assault player is gonna go scr scout and ohk cloaks an charge shots, f that sorry You cant switch to your weapon while cloaked so how in gods name do you want to charge your rifle?
Kaughst Nyain San Renegade Alliance 313	Posted - 2014.03.17 08:46:00 - [20] - Quote This is a odd idea considering that CCP was planning to implement a reduction to armor plate speed for gallente but did not have the tools to do so at the time. I know that giving more base HP from mods to amarr medium suits might be the way go but I do not know about scouts or light suits. "That is not how you say my name." "How do you say your name?" "I don't know but that is not how you say it."

Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 747	Posted - 2014.03.17 09:04:00 - [21] - Quote Kaughst wrote: This is a odd idea considering that CCP was planning to implement a reduction to armor plate speed for gallente but did not have the tools to do so at the time. I know that giving more base HP from mods to amarr medium suits might be the way go but I do not know about scouts or light suits. Another option would be 1. buff base HP a bit of the amarr scout and give fitting reduction to plates this may fit lore better and would help the amarr scout in tanking. 2. instead of a base HP buff give the Amarr scout 2% to armor plates HP per level this way he can full fill his role better 3. instead of the above give 2% damage to laser based sidearms 4. instead of the above give the amarr scout the old sentinels feedback damage reduction (a scout will be hurt more severely by feedback damage due to less hp)
Vell0cet SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1100	Posted - 2014.03.17 09:23:00 - [22] - Quote No thanks. I would prefer 5%/level to cloak recharge and 0.1 increase to its base speed so it's at least faster than all assault suits but still the slowest scout by a significant margin. A cloaking recharge bonus is reasonable, interesting, would give the Amarr scout something unique that other scouts don't have (just as they all have strong/unique bonuses), and would really help with survivability in a scout suit that is the slowest and doesn't have any built-in scanning bonuses to help hide/evade. Best PvE idea ever!
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 747	Posted - 2014.03.17 09:32:00 - [23] - Quote Vell0cet wrote: No thanks. I would prefer 5%/level to cloak recharge and 0.1 increase to its base speed so it's at least faster than all assault suits but still the slowest scout by a significant margin. A cloaking recharge bonus is reasonable, interesting, would give the Amarr scout something unique that other scouts don't have (just as they all have strong/unique bonuses), and would really help with survivability in a scout suit that is the slowest and doesn't have any built-in scanning bonuses to help hide/evade. If you increase the amarr scouts base speed, you need to increase the base speed of all other scout as well. Currently the difference across the scouts is 0.2...(not that this would be bad)
Faquira Bleuetta Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 297	Posted - 2014.03.17 09:38:00 - [24] - Quote The Amarr should be the ******* scout hunter not Caldari , +5% bonus to dropsuit scan radius per level and +19% bonus to Complex Precision Enhancer per level( yes 19% bonus bcuz Amarr lacks high slot) ,,base dropsuit stat new Movement Speed 5.39(current 5.25) , new sprint 7.55(current 7.35),, new stamina 225 (current 275),,, however in exchange Caldari should have bonus to cloaking,,,,,,, +7 % reduction to cloak field cooldown per level,,,+10 % bonus to Cloaked ScProfile Reduction. Revolve CPU 378.3 / 446.25 gF PG 88 / 91.875 kW Shield 75 HP Armor 212.5 [306 Basic plate] HP eHP 287 [381] HP Shield Recharge Rate 30 HP/s Shield Recharge Delay 4 s Shield Dep. Rec. Delay 6 s Armor Repair Rate 0 HP/s Movement Speed 5.39 [5.28 m/s basic plate ] Sprint Speed 9.70 m/s [2 Complex Kinetic Catalyzer] Stamina 236 Stamina Recovery Rate 42 /s Scan Profile 31.5 dB Scan Precision 36 [14.51 dB 2 Complex Preci Enhancer] Scan Radius 30 [54.38 m 1 Complex Range Amplifier] Melee Damage 80 HP Hack Speed Factor 1.31 Frame Class 0 Dropsuit Race 0 Dropsuit Role 0 High-Slot Modules 2 Small Capacity Granades 1 Equipment 2 Sidearm Weapons 1 Low-Slot Modules 4 Light Weapons 1 (n+ëGèÖGÇ+GèÖ)n+ën+PpÇÄG£º~TEARS~G£ºpÇÅ 1.8 Laser rifle buff faq will be back to melt all ur sorry ass the good ol chromosomes days.
DEZKA DIABLO 0uter.Heaven 398	Posted - 2014.03.17 10:49:00 - [25] - Quote Korvin Lomont wrote: DEZKA DIABLO wrote: No cuz then every assault player is gonna go scr scout and ohk cloaks an charge shots, f that sorry You cant switch to your weapon while cloaked so how in gods name do you want to charge your rifle? Ummmm you don't get it do you, cloak , uncloak, shoot , cloak. It works like endurance, after you use it you cloak again as long as its not fully expired, only then does it go into cool down , otherwise the meter goes up if you haven't depleted it Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!
DEZKA DIABLO 0uter.Heaven 398	Posted - 2014.03.17 10:52:00 - [26] - Quote Korvin Lomont wrote: Kaughst wrote: This is a odd idea considering that CCP was planning to implement a reduction to armor plate speed for gallente but did not have the tools to do so at the time. I know that giving more base HP from mods to amarr medium suits might be the way go but I do not know about scouts or light suits. Another option would be 1. buff base HP a bit of the amarr scout and give fitting reduction to plates this may fit lore better and would help the amarr scout in tanking. 2. instead of a base HP buff give the Amarr scout 2% to armor plates HP per level this way he can full fill his role better 3. instead of the above give 2% damage to laser based sidearms 4. instead of the above give the amarr scout the old sentinels feedback damage reduction (a scout will be hurt more severely by feedback damage due to less hp) Then give it a red cape with a SA on it an night crawlers teleportation powers. Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8316	Posted - 2014.03.17 10:53:00 - [27] - Quote DEZKA DIABLO wrote: Korvin Lomont wrote: DEZKA DIABLO wrote: No cuz then every assault player is gonna go scr scout and ohk cloaks an charge shots, f that sorry You cant switch to your weapon while cloaked so how in gods name do you want to charge your rifle? Ummmm you don't get it do you, cloak , uncloak, shoot , cloak. It works like endurance, after you use it you cloak again as long as its not fully expired, only then does it go into cool down , otherwise the meter goes up if you haven't depleted it You actually require at least 50% capacity to cloak at all, even then I still believe it goes into a cool down based on how many seconds over 50% you went. " ..- -.- --. I wish I remembered morse code so I wasn't typing random letters" - Malleus Malificorum
DEZKA DIABLO 0uter.Heaven 398	Posted - 2014.03.17 10:56:00 - [28] - Quote True Adamance wrote: DEZKA DIABLO wrote: Korvin Lomont wrote: DEZKA DIABLO wrote: No cuz then every assault player is gonna go scr scout and ohk cloaks an charge shots, f that sorry You cant switch to your weapon while cloaked so how in gods name do you want to charge your rifle? Ummmm you don't get it do you, cloak , uncloak, shoot , cloak. It works like endurance, after you use it you cloak again as long as its not fully expired, only then does it go into cool down , otherwise the meter goes up if you haven't depleted it You actually require at least 50% capacity to cloak at all, even then I still believe it goes into a cool down based on how many seconds over 50% you went. Ya so charge shot scr snipers are doable Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 748	Posted - 2014.03.17 11:18:00 - [29] - Quote DEZKA DIABLO wrote: Korvin Lomont wrote: DEZKA DIABLO wrote: No cuz then every assault player is gonna go scr scout and ohk cloaks an charge shots, f that sorry You cant switch to your weapon while cloaked so how in gods name do you want to charge your rifle? Ummmm you don't get it do you, cloak , uncloak, shoot , cloak. It works like endurance, after you use it you cloak again as long as its not fully expired, only then does it go into cool down , otherwise the meter goes up if you haven't depleted it Oh I totally get it, but first decloaking will be accomplished by some visual or acoustic effects, charging your SCR takes time and can't be done while cloaked and makes a pretty unique sound.... Apart from these drawbacks you need 50% of your cloaking energy to recloak again. I really don't see this as a major issue. Sure some will manage to do this fast and will kill unaware opponents, but you could already do this with a good scout as most Dust players are way to focused on scanner results and their Tac Net to realize a scout sneaking upon them... The cloak won't really change much about this..
Mad Syringe ReDust Inc. 206	Posted - 2014.03.17 11:31:00 - [30] - Quote A bonus to light armor hp (5% per level) would be a good idea, so only for ferro and reactive armor HP (no bricking with standard plates). Standard plates could get a slight reduction of their speed malus per levell, so that you get like 3% malus instead of 5% at proto. This would be a good match to lore, so the amarr would become the brick scout. I'd dump the stamina gain for that.

Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 748	Posted - 2014.03.17 11:36:00 - [31] - Quote Mad Syringe wrote: A bonus to light armor hp (5% per level) would be a good idea, so only for ferro and reactive armor HP (no bricking with standard plates). Standard plates could get a slight reduction of their speed malus per levell, so that you get like 3% malus instead of 5% at proto. This would be a good match to lore, so the amarr would become the brick scout. I'd dump the stamina gain for that. Interesting aspect with the "light" plates I guess this would do the trick as well although 5% may be a bit too much 2% or 3% would be more balanced...
Benjamin Heisenberg Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 16	Posted - 2014.03.17 11:42:00 - [32] - Quote DEZKA DIABLO wrote: A reduction to armor plate speed penalty per level! If its gonna be slower than a min assault give it a bonus that basically turns a complex plate speed penalty to that of a basic plate or a feroscale. And keep the stamina bonus. Personally I think this would rock cuz lets face it, it's slower than a min assault and your gonna put plates on it and feroscale plates suck, so either reduce its speed penalty from normal plates or the fitting cost of feros. It's a armor scout so your gonna use plates at least one then your gonna run at least one kinetic that probably will barely give it a sprint speed of 8 and if you tank it it's gonna be a mini heavy with stamina lol. Give it a CPU pg cost reduction to fero plates or a speed penalty reduction to armor plates either or I think is a good addition to the stamina bonus or a increase to armor repair per level since the shield depleted delay and recharge are so low and it doesn't have a passive rep like gallente that makes up for the slow recharge an shield depleted delay values. ohhh yea, an Amarr scout with tanned out with a magsec. New FOM?? Fu-k that. 'If thatGÇÖs true, if you donGÇÖt know who I am, then maybe your best courseGÇª would be to tread lightly.GÇÖ
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3515	Posted - 2014.03.17 16:03:00 - [33] - Quote Sole Fenychs wrote: So you want to make the plates with the lower speed penalties, which exist specifically for this exact situation, redundant. You know what the bonus should be? Infinite stamina at lvl 5. Stamina is not valuable enough to see a 25% increase and go "wow". It needs to be at least 100% and even infinite wouldn't be broken. The other armour plates are already obsolete. No.


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