So everybody is whining (no offense) about the masgec smg. They say its almost as good as the Gallente Blaster rifle, And it should be.....both of the smgs' should be.
on every other game people use smgs' as primary weapons, so why is this so bad?

So then make the AR a side arm.

And the cookie crumbles.

Im not saying that...its just that smgs' IRL are similar to an AR except it has a higher rate of fire with less damage

This could just be the Dust level of grammar, but are you saying that in real life an SMG's bullet will do less damage than an assault rifle bullet?

Im not saying that...its just that smgs' IRL are similar to an AR except it has a higher rate of fire with less damage

Yeah, sure.
Sidearms should be competitive with the plasma rifle.
But certainly not with the combat, rail, or scrambler rifles.

You can't really argue that giving the SUB machine gun enough range to beat a HEAVY machine gun is a good idea... The reason would be balance, which is more important than being more like CoD.

Stop crying magsec with be very weak against shields.

Stop crying magsec with be very weak against shields.

Im not saying that...its just that smgs' IRL are similar to an AR except it has a higher rate of fire with less damage

So then make the AR a side arm.

And the cookie crumbles.

You can't really argue that giving the SMALL machine gun enough range to beat a HEAVY machine gun is a good idea... The reason would be balance, which is more important than being more like CoD.

Why? It does more damage than the SMG. There needs to be a limit somewhere.

Cookie repaired. Use common sense.

Why? It does more damage than the SMG. There needs to be a limit somewhere.

Cookie repaired. Use common sense.

I swear everyone that plays Dust has to be a kid the grew up in the 00's.

You call that balance when a heavy with 1500+ HP instantly kills someone from 30+ meters away who was using an SMG? And I repeat - instantly. Dude. An HMG does a tremendous amount of damage and kills instantly. An SMG does a small amount of damage and takes forever to kill one on one. Even if you get the drop on your enemy, you will often lose if they have a better weapon, which they will.

You clearly haven't specced into the SMG. I have. The SMG in this game is nothing like it is in other FPS's. The SMG in this game is weak enough that it could do with more damage OR more effective range. Doesn't need both. It's good, but right now, it's CPU/PG at proto and advanced is not justified whatsoever. It takes so much that you are clearly supposed to be able to main it, but it is not strong enough to stand up to other weapons reliably. I dare you to main the SMG and then talk about how OP it would be to have slightly more range or damage. For christ's sakes...

Why not? The do the same DPS, damage =/= DPS therefore higher damage =/= greater killing potential. Range is the same, dps is the same therefore if the SMG is to behave like the AR then the AR in the light weapon slot is obsolete. Don't tell me to use common sense when you so obviously lack it yourself.

Why would you make a light weapon that is only slightly better than a sidearm?

The crums are still on the floor.

Not true, the smg and assult smg shred people at lose range
There sidearms so they are supposed to be weaker than light weapons
I ran it on my plasma cannon class and it did a great job of taking people out when i had to go into CQC gun fights

What i see here is nothing else than racial fight.
Our Calari lore is known by powerfull responce on long range.
What gallenteans dont like.
But question is:"Why people who like our stuff dont agree with our race."
If you want profit anywhere (field or market) you should choose the caldari republic.
If you play for federation, you can spec in our stuff and use it for your progress.
Its simple and meritocratic vision.
The simplicity and minimalism is reall progress.

Firstly, I think you mean 'long'. Pretty bad typo. Proof read you sh*t at least a tiny bit. Secondly, 'they're' =/= 'there'. Not trying to be a grammar natzi but the way you convey your message greatly affects it's interpretation and appreciation.

No. They don't. Stop saying things. I've specced into SMG and have the range at level 5. Only the Ishukone does decent damage at a decent range. The rest you have to be fairly close, or be fighting an enemy already with damaged HP. Also, why are you complaining about doing well with the SMG in CQC fights? Do I need to explain it to you? It's a CQC weapon. It did well at the area it was exactly designed for.

If the SMG were so great right now you would see it more than the RR, CR, AR, SR - basically everything else that gets used normally or spammed. I use the SMG all the time and rarely ever run into someone else with it.

Firstly, I think you mean 'long'. Pretty bad typo. Proof read you sh*t at least a tiny bit. Secondly, 'they're' =/= 'there'. Not trying to be a grammar natzi but the way you convey your message greatly affects it's interpretation and appreciation.