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Aisha Ctarl Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3949	Posted - 2014.03.14 18:18:00 - [1] - Quote I honestly can't really find one. Yes I know at this point I'm beating a dead horse, but in all honesty the Amarr scout bonus truly feels like an injustice from CCP. The CPU and PG values do not vary that widely between the scouts so the "Amarr has more fitting ability" argument does not work here. The Caladari get a precision enhancement and I believe range bonus. The Gallente get profile dampening. Thanks to not decloaking when hacking, the Minmatar hacking bonus is now HUGELY advantageous. Meanwhile, the Amarr scout can sprint for a really long time......yeah.....lame. I know I know, some of you are like "HEY you can cover more ground!" In short, not really. The faster scouts can cover ground faster, regen their stamina, and set off again, whereas the Amarr scout will simply be able to cover that ground all in one go, the amount of ground covered really turns out to be around the same distance. Is there no DEV at all at Shanghai that read through these bonuses and scratched their head at the Amarr one? Yes, I know that in the Amarr ASSAULT description it says that the suit is grafted into their nervous system to tap into their life essence to increase stamina and power some functions of the suit, but why assume that since the Amarr ASSAULT does that, so should the scout? It comes off as lazy "oh the Amarr Assault has a lot of stamina, let's just make the Scout have even more!" I will still use the Amarr Scout (it is Amarrian after all), but I am grossly disappointed in the apparent lack of thought and creativity that went into the Amarr Scout bonus. I could list the ways how we Amarr are better than you, but your lesser mind wouldn't comprehend it.
Aisha Ctarl Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3949	Posted - 2014.03.14 18:28:00 - [2] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: Yeah, lets ignore being tougher in an environment that will have TTK increased meaning you can drag all those other scouts into a back alley and do horrible things to them I cant for the life of me remember the base EHP stats of the suits and Im not at home and dont want to hunt them down but doesnt the amarr scout have more base EHP than some mid suits 60/170 I could list the ways how we Amarr are better than you, but your lesser mind wouldn't comprehend it.
Aisha Ctarl Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3950	Posted - 2014.03.14 18:34:00 - [3] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: Delta 749 wrote: Yeah, lets ignore being tougher in an environment that will have TTK increased meaning you can drag all those other scouts into a back alley and do horrible things to them I cant for the life of me remember the base EHP stats of the suits and Im not at home and dont want to hunt them down but doesnt the amarr scout have more base EHP than some mid suits 60/170 Why did I think it was 170/170 Maybe I should get some rest and not survive on coffee and sodas all day Because at one point I think it was, because I also thought it was 170/170 until a couple of days ago. I could list the ways how we Amarr are better than you, but your lesser mind wouldn't comprehend it.
Aisha Ctarl Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3952	Posted - 2014.03.14 19:17:00 - [4] - Quote DEZKA DIABLO wrote: Idk if your a scout full time or not but the biggest problem with scouts are versatility , thats the most important thing and basically that's the Amars bonus. My gallente scout is around 300/400 HP I need all my slots to run fast, have stamina, profile damps, extended range , speed , armor and shields. Frost kitty runs 87 shields an 277 armor, the amars base stats with all skills maxed will give it 312 ehp without using a single slot, use 2 shields and you will have 602 ehp, and still have 4 lows and 2 equip to fit= BEAST! I don't care what anyone says this scouts gonna be a monster, your gonna have so many options once your core skills are maxed and weapon optimization is maxed its gonna be unreal, it's gonna have 1000 HP, beat scanners and cloak and not have to stop and catch breath. Anyone that isn't happy with it isn't a full time scout since beta, those that are see it's monster potential . I was a scout back in closed beta and open beta. I get what CCP is doing and I'm not obscenely upset or anything, it is just I would have liked to see some sort of EWAR bonus as well. My core skills are maxed out, so I will be one of the Amarr Scouts that is running around in a stealth assault suit basically, I simply would have liked to see a bonus to say uplinks or something of that nature. I could list the ways how we Amarr are better than you, but your lesser mind wouldn't comprehend it.
Aisha Ctarl Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3957	Posted - 2014.03.15 03:54:00 - [5] - Quote Funkmaster Whale wrote: How many of these threads are you going to make? We get it. Caldari Assault and Gal Assault bonuses suck too. It's done. They're not changing it nor do they care at this point. Quit crying about it and move on. I'll make as many as I desire, so either provide feedback or **** off and deal with it. I could list the ways how we Amarr are better than you, but your lesser mind wouldn't comprehend it.
Aisha Ctarl Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3962	Posted - 2014.03.16 01:48:00 - [6] - Quote Zeylon Rho wrote: Django Quik wrote: Zeylon Rho wrote: Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote: the amarr does have more fitting abilityGÇª.try fitting a min scout, i dare you. Mk.0: 366 CPU, 62 PG 3H/3L Ak.0: 340 CPU, 70 PG 2H/4L What would you like to fit on it? It gets 26 more CPU at a cost of 8 PG. Conventionally, you say 1 PG is worth about 4-5 CPU. By that metric, the Minmatar is doing alright. Notice how PG heavy biotics are? And Amarr Weaponry is much higher req than Minmatar... Also the Amarr Scout got less CPU than the Minmatar Scout for some reason even though laser weaponry is CPU intensive. I could list the ways how we Amarr are better than you, but your lesser mind wouldn't comprehend it.

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