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Skihids
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Posted - 2014.03.14 16:36:00 -
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CCP is compaining about the use of BPOs, and several of the recent changes hit some of them pretty hard.
Raven Caldari Assault BPO: A standard level suit that most agree is not worth running
SEVER Minmintar Logi BPO: A standard level suit that now has the worst racial bonus of all
Exile AR: Outclassed by the RR, CR, and Magsec
Toxin SMG: Made obsolete by the Magsec
Probably coincidence, but it's awfuly convenient for CCP if folks stop using them. |
Skihids
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Posted - 2014.03.14 16:41:00 -
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ResistanceGTA wrote:Skihids wrote:CCP is compaining about the use of BPOs, and several of the recent changes hit some of them pretty hard.
Raven Caldari Assault BPO: A standard level suit that most agree is not worth running
SEVER Minmintar Logi BPO: A standard level suit that now has the worst racial bonus of all
Exile AR: Outclassed by the RR, CR, and Magsec
Toxin SMG: Made obsolete by the Magsec
Probably coincidence, but it's awfuly convenient for CCP if folks stop using them. The SVER Logi has the worst bonus?!? Tell that Cal and Gal Assaults, and the Amarr Scouts (though their such fanatics it wouldn't matter if their bonus was they died as soon as they spawned).
The worst racial Logi bonus. An increase in healing per cycle that reduces the cycles and thus WP's earned, along with retaining the current rep tool range. All this on the softest suit in the game. |
Skihids
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Posted - 2014.03.14 16:42:00 -
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KatanaPT wrote:Skihids wrote:CCP is compaining about the use of BPOs, and several of the recent changes hit some of them pretty hard.
Raven Caldari Assault BPO: A standard level suit that most agree is not worth running
SEVER Minmintar Logi BPO: A standard level suit that now has the worst racial bonus of all
Exile AR: Outclassed by the RR, CR, and Magsec
Toxin SMG: Made obsolete by the Magsec
Probably coincidence, but it's awfuly convenient for CCP if folks stop using them. Not only the Exile, the whole AR is outclassed by RR, CR and SCR
I'm referring only to the BPOs in this discussion. |
Skihids
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Posted - 2014.03.14 16:44:00 -
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Onesimus Tarsus wrote:Skihids wrote:CCP is compaining about the use of BPOs, and several of the recent changes hit some of them pretty hard.
Raven Caldari Assault BPO: A standard level suit that most agree is not worth running
SEVER Minmintar Logi BPO: A standard level suit that now has the worst racial bonus of all
Exile AR: Outclassed by the RR, CR, and Magsec
Toxin SMG: Made obsolete by the Magsec
Probably coincidence, but it's awfuly convenient for CCP if folks stop using them. Oh, no! The MagSec is going to come to my house and delete my ToxinSMG BPO? The horror.
Of course not. But the Magsec will devalue your Toxin SMG. |
Skihids
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Posted - 2014.03.14 16:48:00 -
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Folks will still use the BPOs for filler and in throw-away suits, but not so much when they are looking to be competitive.
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Skihids
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Posted - 2014.03.14 16:56:00 -
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Onesimus Tarsus wrote:Skihids wrote:Onesimus Tarsus wrote:Skihids wrote:CCP is compaining about the use of BPOs, and several of the recent changes hit some of them pretty hard.
Raven Caldari Assault BPO: A standard level suit that most agree is not worth running
SEVER Minmintar Logi BPO: A standard level suit that now has the worst racial bonus of all
Exile AR: Outclassed by the RR, CR, and Magsec
Toxin SMG: Made obsolete by the Magsec
Probably coincidence, but it's awfuly convenient for CCP if folks stop using them. Oh, no! The MagSec is going to come to my house and delete my ToxinSMG BPO? The horror. Of course not. But the Magsec will devalue your Toxin SMG. Down past free?
Free is the cost. Value is usefulness reduced by cost.
If using the Toxin gets you killed most of the time because your opponent is using the Magsec its value is significantly reduced. |
Skihids
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Posted - 2014.03.14 17:18:00 -
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MrShooter01 wrote:Skihids wrote:
The worst racial Logi bonus. An increase in healing per cycle that reduces the cycles and thus WP's earned, along with retaining the current rep tool range. All this on the softest suit in the game.
Triage points are based on the amount of HP you heal, not how long it takes you to heal those HP This is why when you heal a heavy with a decent repair tool, you get a lot of +25s really fast but if you use a militia repair tool on somebody's damaged caldari starter fit, you're lucky if you get one triage bonus Please don't tell me there are people deliberately running militia rep tools believing it will earn them more points
I'm afraid you are misinformed.
Repair tools yield 25 WPs per repair cycle. The cycle time is constant, so there is no speeding up those rewards.
The more HP's you heal per cycle, the fewer cycles you get for a given amount of damage repaired.
It's a very well known issue among Logis. The lowest ISK cost tool yields the most rewards and the highest cost tool yields the worst rewards. It's bassackwards, but CCP can't fix it.
So yes, increasing the healing per cycle for the Minmitar bonus is nice for his team, but it punishes his rewards. |
Skihids
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Posted - 2014.03.14 17:24:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:It's just chance, whenever you get new stuff there is a good chance that something will be better than the old.
That may hold true for the weapons, but all the other suits were already in game. |
Skihids
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Posted - 2014.03.14 17:37:00 -
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ResistanceGTA wrote:Skihids wrote:MrShooter01 wrote:Skihids wrote:
The worst racial Logi bonus. An increase in healing per cycle that reduces the cycles and thus WP's earned, along with retaining the current rep tool range. All this on the softest suit in the game.
Triage points are based on the amount of HP you heal, not how long it takes you to heal those HP This is why when you heal a heavy with a decent repair tool, you get a lot of +25s really fast but if you use a militia repair tool on somebody's damaged caldari starter fit, you're lucky if you get one triage bonus Please don't tell me there are people deliberately running militia rep tools believing it will earn them more points I'm afraid you are misinformed. Repair tools yield 25 WPs per repair cycle. The cycle time is constant, so there is no speeding up those rewards. The more HP's you heal per cycle, the fewer cycles you get for a given amount of damage repaired. It's a very well known issue among Logis. The lowest ISK cost tool yields the most rewards and the highest cost tool yields the worst rewards. It's bassackwards, but CCP can't fix it. So yes, increasing the healing per cycle for the Minmitar bonus is nice for his team, but it punishes his rewards. Cool then. I won't be FotM or anything when I Spec Min Logi specifically for the Rep Tool Bonus.
More power to you. it may even pay off in a year or two if CCP ever changes the code to reward results. |
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