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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
Interstellar Murder of Crows
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Posted - 2014.03.13 18:39:00 -
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DootDoot wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:howard sanchez wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Oh so thats what thread was about
I know someone who currently recycles about 30charas on 10 PSN accounts, i think he spends more time doing that than playing the game Mr Kashuken, Would you agree with the article's author that this kind of behavior, when practiced by many players, could contribute to substantial economic and gameplay imbalance for DUST and, eventually EVE? CCP, anything to add? [CCP]Saberwing said they're looking into it. They can easily track everyone who's done it, so hopefully they reverse the ISK and hand out bans. Fixing the issue should be fairly simple. CCP just needs to take a hard stance on this kind of behavior and start handing out public bans... These players are maliciously trying to cheat the entire game at the expense of a new to DUST player starting with a measly 250k. Taking advantage of terrible game mechanics is on CCP head for blame... Turbo Controllers, Sprint, Melee, Sprint.. Equipment spam... etc... But taking advantage of the character creation process and the new player creation process is straight up with malicious intent.
This character recycling can only be done because of the way CCP designed the character creation process so why isn't this also on their head? Conversely, why isn't all of this **** on the head of the person who is perpetrating it?
I just think it is funny that it is apparently perfectly alright to use Turbo controllers, Sprint/Melee/Sprint etc, though someone who is doing something to create profit for themselves without directly harming anyone else is "malicious intent".
Oh, you, double standards, you'll never cease to amaze me.
IMHO, Biomass Isk farms and Molden Heath Farmville are no different than one another. Actually, IMHO, MH Farmville is worse if you ask me since they are actively denying portions of the playerbase from participating in their little circlejerk.
Anyone can biomass Isk farm without kissing ass or fellating some tin god, the same cannot be said of PC Farmville.
Kill PC and reclaim all wealth it has generated before it damages the game even further
Closed Beta Bittervet Bomber
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
Interstellar Murder of Crows
1817
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Posted - 2014.03.13 18:46:00 -
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howard sanchez wrote:Atiim wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Whatever happens I hope they take a firm stance on this, perma ban the offenders and revert as much of the ISK as possible. I don't think perma-ban the offenders would be the right course of action. If they perma-ban the people who were abusing this game mechanic to generate ISK from the academy, then they'd also have to perma-ban the people who were abusing game mechanics to generate ISK from DIstrict Locking as well. So that would be what, 80% of the playerbase?  I'd say to remove the ISK of course, but don't perma-ban the players. See, Atilim makes an excellent point. CCP cannot afford to alienate anyone in the community if they can avoid it. They need a legitimately growing customer base. I get that this is Priority One. But I worry that this might lead them to ignore this kind of problem "until DUST grows up a bit". But that is like not treating the cancer because patients don't like chemo. There are other options than a swiftly swung ban-hammer. But they really need to consider and ACT to prevent this from undermining the game in its infancy. Again, prior to even suggesting or agreeing upon a course of action, I believe what must happen next is CCP should honestly and transparently recognize the issue and publicly commit to resolving it. Of course, given thier carteblanche company policy of not responding to customers or communicating in an open and direct manner, there may be little hope of progress. Thank you all for your consideration of this matter
Total Wealth reset for all?
All wealth Asset or liquid goes away (aside from things that can only be gained through salvage like Officer weapons) and nothing else gets changed (except for the broken mechanics that allowed the farming to happen).
Kiss Biomass Isk farm Isk goodbye
Kiss Farmville Isk goodbye
Everyone gets a fresh start back to a 0 Wallet balance while retaining their SP, I think that would solve a lot of the problem.
Just don't do it until you've fixed the Farmville stupidity and improved NPE while taking away the starting Isk.
Kill PC and reclaim all wealth it has generated before it damages the game even further
Closed Beta Bittervet Bomber
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
Interstellar Murder of Crows
1817
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Posted - 2014.03.13 19:00:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:
Total Wealth reset for all?
All wealth Asset or liquid goes away (aside from things that can only be gained through salvage like Officer weapons) and nothing else gets changed (except for the broken mechanics that allowed the farming to happen).
Kiss Biomass Isk farm Isk goodbye
Kiss Farmville Isk goodbye
Everyone gets a fresh start back to a 0 Wallet balance while retaining their SP, I think that would solve a lot of the problem.
Just don't do it until you've fixed the Farmville stupidity and improved NPE while taking away the starting Isk.
But that would punish those who were wise with their ISK, and earned it legitimately. There's a much better way.
IDK, I still like the idea I proposed a few weeks back.
Reset everyone's Isk back to 0.
For everyday you've been here since the start of Open Beta, you get 1m Isk.
For every month you've been here since the start of Open Beta, you get 10m Isk.
For each iteration of Uprising you've been here for, you get 25m Isk.
If you were here for Uprising 1.0, you get 100m.
If you were here for the first day of Open Beta, you get 250m.
Only applies to characters who've been active for at least 10 battles over the past two weeks.
Kill PC and reclaim all wealth it has generated before it damages the game even further
Closed Beta Bittervet Bomber
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
Interstellar Murder of Crows
1817
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Posted - 2014.03.13 19:27:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Atiim wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:
Total Wealth reset for all?
All wealth Asset or liquid goes away (aside from things that can only be gained through salvage like Officer weapons) and nothing else gets changed (except for the broken mechanics that allowed the farming to happen).
Kiss Biomass Isk farm Isk goodbye
Kiss Farmville Isk goodbye
Everyone gets a fresh start back to a 0 Wallet balance while retaining their SP, I think that would solve a lot of the problem.
Just don't do it until you've fixed the Farmville stupidity and improved NPE while taking away the starting Isk.
But that would punish those who were wise with their ISK, and earned it legitimately. There's a much better way. IDK, I still like the idea I proposed a few weeks back. Reset everyone's Isk back to 0. For everyday you've been here since the start of Open Beta, you get 1m Isk. For every month you've been here since the start of Open Beta, you get 10m Isk. For each iteration of Uprising you've been here for, you get 25m Isk. If you were here for Uprising 1.0, you get 100m. If you were here for the first day of Open Beta, you get 250m. Only applies to characters who've been active for at least 10 battles over the past two weeks. I'm not sure why it's such a big deal honestly. If you haven't been exploiting the system, you have nothing to worry about.
Aside from being financially crushed by the farmers who've been exploiting PC since day one.
Kill PC and reclaim all wealth it has generated before it damages the game even further
Closed Beta Bittervet Bomber
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
Interstellar Murder of Crows
1817
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Posted - 2014.03.13 20:25:00 -
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@dootdoot
I am unaware of CCP specifically stating that, care to link it?
Regardless, I still find the double standard amusing.
Kill PC and reclaim all wealth it has generated before it damages the game even further
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