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Bat Cow
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.03.13 02:51:00 -
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Is it too much to ask for a single, central location for Dust news? Currently there are at least six sources (not including IRCs) for Dust news, and rarely do they all have the same info. Having to search through the forums for the latest news is ridiculous.
Moo.
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Hynox Xitio
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
385
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Posted - 2014.03.13 02:52:00 -
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But if theres one source, how are we gonna skew information and spread lies?
Unleash the Fogwoggler
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Bat Cow
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.03.13 02:54:00 -
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Hynox Xitio wrote:But if theres one source, how are we gonna skew information and spread lies?
I thought that was CCP's job?
Moo.
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Hynox Xitio
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
387
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Posted - 2014.03.13 03:05:00 -
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Bat Cow wrote:Hynox Xitio wrote:But if theres one source, how are we gonna skew information and spread lies? I thought that was CCP's job?
Inb4lock
Unleash the Fogwoggler
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
1774
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Posted - 2014.03.13 03:19:00 -
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Bat Cow wrote:Is it too much to ask for a single, central location for Dust news? Currently there are at least six sources (not including IRCs) for Dust news, and rarely do they all have the same info. Having to search through the forums for the latest news is ridiculous.
The mileage and goodwill to be gained from implementing this common sense measure are significant. It would up the level of the conversation by giving peeps a common reference point for game-oriented discussions.
A single place on the forums or a game website where peeps could go first to get up to speed and into the conversation.
I support SP rollover.
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nakaya indigene
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2014.03.13 03:21:00 -
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Bat Cow wrote:Is it too much to ask for a single, central location for Dust news? Currently there are at least six sources (not including IRCs) for Dust news, and rarely do they all have the same info. Having to search through the forums for the latest news is ridiculous.
youtube is great for that kind of stuff.
The Jove espier --- my youtube --> NakaNakaNaka
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
1615
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Posted - 2014.03.13 03:25:00 -
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nakaya indigene wrote:Bat Cow wrote:Is it too much to ask for a single, central location for Dust news? Currently there are at least six sources (not including IRCs) for Dust news, and rarely do they all have the same info. Having to search through the forums for the latest news is ridiculous.
youtube is great for that kind of stuff.
It's actually not. People are better off browsing the forums.
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CCP Saberwing
C C P
C C P Alliance
2571
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Posted - 2014.03.13 03:31:00 -
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Hey there.
I'd be interested in hearing how you would implement this - generally we try to bring the "latest" news through all of the Official Channels simultaneously (Dev Blogs, Social Media, Forum Announcements, etc). Any discussion we have that isn't through these avenues can instantly be considered the "latest news"...and I'm not sure discussing what I had for lunch is necessarily worthy of a Dev Blog.
Chicken Teriyaki Sandwich with Avocado, FYI.
But really - would be interested in getting your feedback on that. :)
CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian
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CommanderBolt
ACME SPECIAL FORCES
RISE of LEGION
1015
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Posted - 2014.03.13 03:36:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:Hey there.
I'd be interested in hearing how you would implement this - generally we try to bring the "latest" news through all of the Official Channels simultaneously (Dev Blogs, Social Media, Forum Announcements, etc). Any discussion we have that isn't through these avenues can instantly be considered the "latest news"...and I'm not sure discussing what I had for lunch is necessarily worthy of a Dev Blog.
Chicken Teriyaki Sandwich with Avocado, FYI.
But really - would be interested in getting your feedback on that. :)
Oh man, ditch those Avocados man! Eww haha :P
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nakaya indigene
0uter.Heaven
160
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Posted - 2014.03.13 03:39:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:nakaya indigene wrote:Bat Cow wrote:Is it too much to ask for a single, central location for Dust news? Currently there are at least six sources (not including IRCs) for Dust news, and rarely do they all have the same info. Having to search through the forums for the latest news is ridiculous.
youtube is great for that kind of stuff. It's actually not. People are better off browsing the forums. COUNTERED
lol. you mind elaborating brah?
The Jove espier --- my youtube --> NakaNakaNaka
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
1617
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Posted - 2014.03.13 03:43:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:Hey there.
I'd be interested in hearing how you would implement this - generally we try to bring the "latest" news through all of the Official Channels simultaneously (Dev Blogs, Social Media, Forum Announcements, etc). Any discussion we have that isn't through these avenues can instantly be considered the "latest news"...and I'm not sure discussing what I had for lunch is necessarily worthy of a Dev Blog.
Chicken Teriyaki Sandwich with Avocado, FYI.
But really - would be interested in getting your feedback on that. :)
*deactivates cloak and whispers*
Information huuuub~
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
1617
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Posted - 2014.03.13 03:48:00 -
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nakaya indigene wrote:Joel II X wrote:nakaya indigene wrote:Bat Cow wrote:Is it too much to ask for a single, central location for Dust news? Currently there are at least six sources (not including IRCs) for Dust news, and rarely do they all have the same info. Having to search through the forums for the latest news is ridiculous.
youtube is great for that kind of stuff. It's actually not. People are better off browsing the forums. COUNTERED lol. you mind elaborating brah?
People can often read faster than the amount of time it takes to watch a video retaining the same amount of information.
Let's say there was aa 3 paragraph article here and you decided to make a video reading those paragraphs, it would take you longer to relay that information since you have to focus on reading and speaking while your peer can just read and process it faster by utilizing less resources in the brain. Also, you could make some speculations on your videos to attract views, but that would only increase the amount of time being spent watching a video rather than moving on to read another article containing possibly more information.
I could really go more in depth, but I'm lazy. It's science.
Your videos are, however, to my liking so keep making them. |
Forever ETC
703rd
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
110
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Posted - 2014.03.13 03:54:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:Hey there.
I'd be interested in hearing how you would implement this - generally we try to bring the "latest" news through all of the Official Channels simultaneously (Dev Blogs, Social Media, Forum Announcements, etc). Any discussion we have that isn't through these avenues can instantly be considered the "latest news"...and I'm not sure discussing what I had for lunch is necessarily worthy of a Dev Blog.
Chicken Teriyaki Sandwich with Avocado, FYI.
But really - would be interested in getting your feedback on that. :) *deactivates cloak and whispers* Information huuuub~ *activates cloak*
You Have Been Scanned
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
7339
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Posted - 2014.03.13 04:18:00 -
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It's often far better to have more than one source in my opinion. Eve Online has the same way of decentralized news.
The Eve Online Login Screen
forums.eveonline.com
community.eveonline.com
Twitter
Fail... err Facebook
Google+
www.themittani.com
www.evenews24.com <---read at your own risk
etc.
Besides, there are people out there who don't really bother to browse the forums so social media and the login screen is often the only way to broadcast the information to them of any changes or events that are coming.
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
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Bat Cow
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
12
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Posted - 2014.03.13 04:18:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:Hey there.
I'd be interested in hearing how you would implement this - generally we try to bring the "latest" news through all of the Official Channels simultaneously (Dev Blogs, Social Media, Forum Announcements, etc). Any discussion we have that isn't through these avenues can instantly be considered the "latest news"...and I'm not sure discussing what I had for lunch is necessarily worthy of a Dev Blog.
Chicken Teriyaki Sandwich with Avocado, FYI.
But really - would be interested in getting your feedback on that. :)
I should clarify- it's not that there's no news- it's that there are too many sources, and they don't all pair up. During the 12 days of Dust for example- there was a separate website listing the prizes each day, but Facebook/Google+ would list some items, while Twitter would list others. Meanwhile logging into the game- there was no info about what the daily prizes are. Ditto on the news portion of the website.
I admit, I almost missed out an event or two because I didn't check any of the forums, Twitter, etc. before a weekend event. If the sources can't all display the same info, then (to borrow Joel II X's suggestion)- a singular Information Hub in the game seems most logical to me.
Moo.
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Charlotte O'Dell
Sooper Speshul Ponee Fors
2112
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Posted - 2014.03.13 04:23:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:Hey there.
I'd be interested in hearing how you would implement this - generally we try to bring the "latest" news through all of the Official Channels simultaneously (Dev Blogs, Social Media, Forum Announcements, etc). Any discussion we have that isn't through these avenues can instantly be considered the "latest news"...and I'm not sure discussing what I had for lunch is necessarily worthy of a Dev Blog.
Chicken Teriyaki Sandwich with Avocado, FYI.
But really - would be interested in getting your feedback on that. :) Oh man, ditch those Avocados man! Eww haha :P
i like avocados...then again, im california that way
Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
1861
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Posted - 2014.03.13 04:32:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:Hey there.
I'd be interested in hearing how you would implement this - generally we try to bring the "latest" news through all of the Official Channels simultaneously (Dev Blogs, Social Media, Forum Announcements, etc). Any discussion we have that isn't through these avenues can instantly be considered the "latest news"...and I'm not sure discussing what I had for lunch is necessarily worthy of a Dev Blog.
Chicken Teriyaki Sandwich with Avocado, FYI.
But really - would be interested in getting your feedback on that. :)
Why don't you try
Melanzane alla parmigiana, Arancini, Panna Cotta and ,of course, an Espresso. Wouldn't it be better? :D
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Haerr
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
339
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Posted - 2014.03.13 06:38:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:Hey there.
I'd be interested in hearing how you would implement this - generally we try to bring the "latest" news through all of the Official Channels simultaneously (Dev Blogs, Social Media, Forum Announcements, etc). Any discussion we have that isn't through these avenues can instantly be considered the "latest news"...and I'm not sure discussing what I had for lunch is necessarily worthy of a Dev Blog.
Chicken Teriyaki Sandwich with Avocado, FYI.
But really - would be interested in getting your feedback on that. :)
Atom / RSS feed would be nice.
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Disturbingly Bored
Forum Warfare
2025
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Posted - 2014.03.13 11:38:00 -
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Well, there's already a single source for all information that's been giving by a Dev on the forums:
The Dev Posts tab.
I click on it daily. Everything official is contained right there, as far as forum and blog posts though. (And a few dozen entertaining daily lock posts tossed into the mix for good measure.)
I used to own the FAT GAT until this --> [ASCII Art removed - draconian forum overlord CCP Logibro]
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IgniteableAura
Pro Hic Immortalis
688
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Posted - 2014.03.13 13:21:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:
But really - would be interested in getting your feedback on that. :)
Build an app that uses the dust API. That would solve pretty much all those issues.
1. Would provide News
2. Would provide Blogs
3. Could provide event notifications
4. Could provide event progress
5. Fitting tools
6. List goes on and on
I understand that EVE has made CCP reliant on community built tools, but console players /=/ PC players.
Also, there should be an easier way to get info on dev interaction in the IRC. There is a lot of "stuff" that goes on there and most of the community doesn't even know how to access it. The IRC thread dates back to the beta and its not easy to find.
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
1775
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Posted - 2014.03.13 13:22:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:It's often far better to have more than one source in my opinion. Eve Online has the same way of decentralized news. The Eve Online Login Screen forums.eveonline.com community.eveonline.com Twitter Fail... err Facebook Google+ www.themittani.comwww.evenews24.com <---read at your own risk etc. Besides, there are people out there who don't really bother to browse the forums so social media and the login screen is often the only way to broadcast the information to them of any changes or events that are coming.
+1 Maken re your point on actively maintained/promptly updated info on the login screen. It's something we all know to be true - if you want to make sure that everybody in the company sees something, one very solid technique is to staple it to their paycheque.
It is certain that nobody is argueing against multiple information sources, the issue at hand is the value of a single, centralized consise-but-completed information hub that could effectively replace the twitter/skype/irc/forum-mining process. The purpose of the hub is to allow players to know, without guessing, what information has been passed from CCP to players - one player or many players should make no difference. For the people involved in the DUST conversation this would be a big time-saver and also improve overall SNR on the forums for CCP.
It's a big win-win imo.
I support SP rollover.
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
1775
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Posted - 2014.03.13 13:29:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:Hey there.
I'd be interested in hearing how you would implement this - generally we try to bring the "latest" news through all of the Official Channels simultaneously (Dev Blogs, Social Media, Forum Announcements, etc). Any discussion we have that isn't through these avenues can instantly be considered the "latest news"...and I'm not sure discussing what I had for lunch is necessarily worthy of a Dev Blog.
Chicken Teriyaki Sandwich with Avocado, FYI.
But really - would be interested in getting your feedback on that. :)
It's great that you've put this out there as a topic for conversation, Saberwing, +1. Imo there's real value to be had from thinking about how we're communicating & channels.
More to say but at work, so catch ya later.
I support SP rollover.
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
1775
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Posted - 2014.03.13 13:35:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:Hey there.
I'd be interested in hearing how you would implement this - generally we try to bring the "latest" news through all of the Official Channels simultaneously (Dev Blogs, Social Media, Forum Announcements, etc). Any discussion we have that isn't through these avenues can instantly be considered the "latest news"...and I'm not sure discussing what I had for lunch is necessarily worthy of a Dev Blog.
Chicken Teriyaki Sandwich with Avocado, FYI.
But really - would be interested in getting your feedback on that. :) Oh man, ditch those Avocados man! Eww haha :P i like avocados...then again, im california that way
I love avacados - particularly on those New Zealand lamburgers made with fijian chilli and seved with a side of squidrings - i used to get at a little roadside shop in downtown Auckland. Mmmmm....
But sigh...back in N. America now and i crave those burgers every.single.day.
I support SP rollover.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
7346
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Posted - 2014.03.13 13:35:00 -
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IgniteableAura wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:
But really - would be interested in getting your feedback on that. :)
Build an app that uses the dust API. That would solve pretty much all those issues. 1. Would provide News 2. Would provide Blogs 3. Could provide event notifications 4. Could provide event progress 5. Fitting tools 6. List goes on and on I understand that EVE has made CCP reliant on community built tools, but console players /=/ PC players. Also, there should be an easier way to get info on dev interaction in the IRC. There is a lot of "stuff" that goes on there and most of the community doesn't even know how to access it. The IRC thread dates back to the beta and its not easy to find.
Are you saying console players are too stupid to interact on a level equal to that of Eve online?
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
7346
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Posted - 2014.03.13 13:48:00 -
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@Vrain
Well to be honest, even the login screen tends to fail to convey anything to certain players. The Burn Jita assault in Eve Online is a perfect example. When goonswarm attacked Jita, a traffic advisory was posted on the login screen warning every player that Jita is under attack by goons and that entering the system is inadvisable. Traffic was jammed as well on the stargates which meant you really had to go out of your way to ignore the traffic advisory posted on the Stargate and login screen.
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Those stupid freighter pilots kept coming into Jita anyways. Here's the thing. Lazy freighter pilots (we usually call them haulers) usually use autopilot for most of their trips in high sec space. If there is a traffic advisory warning of a jammed system, the autopilot shuts down. That means the player has to really go out of his way to get himself into the system and risked losing his 5 billion ISK cargo in the process.
Stupid is what stupid does.
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
1776
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Posted - 2014.03.13 13:54:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:@Vrain
Well to be honest, even the login screen tends to fail to convey anything to certain players. The Burn Jita assault in Eve Online is a perfect example. When goonswarm attacked Jita, a traffic advisory was posted on the login screen warning every player that Jita is under attack by goons and that entering the system is inadvisable. Traffic was jammed as well on the stargates which meant you really had to go out of your way to ignore the traffic advisory posted on the Stargate and login screen.
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Those stupid freighter pilots kept coming into Jita anyways. Here's the thing. Lazy freighter pilots (we usually call them haulers) usually use autopilot for most of their trips in high sec space. If there is a traffic advisory warning of a jammed system, the autopilot shuts down. That means the player has to really go out of his way to get himself into the system and risked losing his 5 billion ISK cargo in the process.
Stupid is what stupid does.
I had my lols over Jita - the same thing is true for the ice interdictions, and many other examples.
But it's also true that, for those peeps who want to engage in the DUST conversation, we could prolly find some efficiencies that would serve us all(players&devs) well.
I support SP rollover.
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Drapedup Drippedout
0uter.Heaven
562
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Posted - 2014.03.13 13:57:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:nakaya indigene wrote:Joel II X wrote:nakaya indigene wrote:Bat Cow wrote:Is it too much to ask for a single, central location for Dust news? Currently there are at least six sources (not including IRCs) for Dust news, and rarely do they all have the same info. Having to search through the forums for the latest news is ridiculous.
youtube is great for that kind of stuff. It's actually not. People are better off browsing the forums. COUNTERED lol. you mind elaborating brah? People can often read faster than the amount of time it takes to watch a video retaining the same amount of information. Let's say there was aa 3 paragraph article here and you decided to make a video reading those paragraphs, it would take you longer to relay that information since you have to focus on reading and speaking while your peer can just read and process it faster by utilizing less resources in the brain. Also, you could make some speculations on your videos to attract views, but that would only increase the amount of time being spent watching a video rather than moving on to read another article containing possibly more information. I could really go more in depth, but I'm lazy. It's science. Your videos are, however, to my liking so keep making them.
This is why newspapers and print media are thriving and things like youtube and vines are relics of a dying past 
Pro-fit Prophet
"Gimme yo lunch money"
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Jebus McKing
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
321
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Posted - 2014.03.13 14:05:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:Hey there.
I'd be interested in hearing how you would implement this - generally we try to bring the "latest" news through all of the Official Channels simultaneously (Dev Blogs, Social Media, Forum Announcements, etc). Any discussion we have that isn't through these avenues can instantly be considered the "latest news"...and I'm not sure discussing what I had for lunch is necessarily worthy of a Dev Blog.
Chicken Teriyaki Sandwich with Avocado, FYI.
But really - would be interested in getting your feedback on that. :)
Maybe we can have back those weekly threads that CCP Mintchip did? You know, those compilations of threads with meaningful discussions and Dev tags. I liked those.
@JebusMcKing // TIERICIDE, just do it, CCP.
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
1622
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Posted - 2014.03.13 15:17:00 -
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Forever ETC wrote:Joel II X wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:Hey there.
I'd be interested in hearing how you would implement this - generally we try to bring the "latest" news through all of the Official Channels simultaneously (Dev Blogs, Social Media, Forum Announcements, etc). Any discussion we have that isn't through these avenues can instantly be considered the "latest news"...and I'm not sure discussing what I had for lunch is necessarily worthy of a Dev Blog.
Chicken Teriyaki Sandwich with Avocado, FYI.
But really - would be interested in getting your feedback on that. :) *deactivates cloak and whispers* Information huuuub~ *activates cloak* You Have Been Scanned Joel: "Damn."
Only if you have a Duvolle Focused. In that case:
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Baal Omniscient
L.O.T.I.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1134
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Posted - 2014.03.13 16:37:00 -
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Definite confirmed changes to Dust as well as discussion threads for big changes (for instance, the respec thread) should be announced on the updates screen whenever you login. Important threads should be announced with the web address of the specific page on which to find said discussion, as well as a forum location for those who just want to look it up without typing all those letters/digits/symbols in (example: DUST 514 Forums -+ DUST 514 -+ Features and Ideas Discussion -+ The Respec Discussion Thread).
Details on definite confirmed changes to Dust should have the web address displayed as well, along with the forum location. As for what you say on the login screen.... It does not have to be an in-depth description of each change (meaning you don't have to list each individual stat change or new stats for new items), but as long as you hit all of the points involved you can say "For more detailed information on these changes, visit this forum location".
That would probably serve the game (and the forums) the best, as well let new players know we HAVE forums and that they are active.
MAG ~ Raven
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