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D34NOS MAZDA
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.03.12 14:07:00 -
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If you all missed it. Cmdr Wang posted here that he is willing to open this up to a two million clone challenge but does not want to make it a grind.
CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:D legendary hero wrote:[quote=CCP Cmdr Wang][quote=Regis Blackbird][quote=CCP Cmdr Wang] CCP I HAVE A REQUEST If we destroy more than 1 million clones do we get more free SP? ie 2 million clones = 2million SP? I see quite a few people asking about this and don't mind setting a stretch goal for 2 million. However, the intent of this event is to set a goal for the community that is realistic and achievable without a lot of time commitment. If we start raising that bar, then it starts the slippery slope towards the grind and that would be my main concern.
I for one welcomes this challenge, and do not believe that it will be a grind as there are staged tiers so you have the choice if you want to carry on playing or not.
What is everyone's thoughts, Should cmdr wang open it up to the two million mark
My vote is for yes |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2014.03.12 14:16:00 -
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Imma go for it anyways, wanna blast past the 1mil mark and hell if we reach 2mil we may gain an extra 1mil+
Whats not to like, those which have the time will do it, i intend to do so in a BPO scout glass cannon suit and will defo die alot more than live
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castba
Penguin's March
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Posted - 2014.03.12 14:20:00 -
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Don't see why not. If we make it, cool. If not, no matter. Also, would that mean if 2mil clones was achieved, we would receive 3mil sp with a booster or 4mil sp with an omega?
That would be some serious incentive. |
D34NOS MAZDA
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.03.12 16:58:00 -
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castba wrote:Don't see why not. If we make it, cool. If not, no matter. Also, would that mean if 2mil clones was achieved, we would receive 3mil sp with a booster or 4mil sp with an omega?
That would be some serious incentive.
How I read it yes |
Viktor Hadah Jr
Critical-Impact
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Posted - 2014.03.12 16:59:00 -
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Pretty certain we will hit 2Mil be the goal be expanded or not.
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crutch 514
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.03.12 17:00:00 -
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Yes! I support more sp regardless of its cost! |
Supernus Gigas
Star Giants
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Posted - 2014.03.12 17:07:00 -
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castba wrote:Don't see why not. If we make it, cool. If not, no matter. Also, would that mean if 2mil clones was achieved, we would receive 3mil sp with a booster or 4mil sp with an omega?
That would be some serious incentive.
Oh my god getting 4 mill from this event would instantly make me not even care that we only get Dropsuit Command refunded.
*begins to drool*
FIRE UP THE HEAVY MEAT GRINDER! WE'RE HAVIN' CLONE BURGERS TONIGHT, BOYS!
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75kcirtaP
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.03.12 17:08:00 -
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Two million clones in three days? Yeah, that's not happening.
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DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.12 17:09:00 -
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Yes let's do this!
After I just got shafted by CCP with no full respec, I'm down to anything for more sp
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Maximus Stryker
Who Are Those Guys
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Posted - 2014.03.12 17:10:00 -
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I support this Idea.
I agree with Commander Wang as not wanting to make this a grind fest as I know the community has angered in the past when the challenges are too grindy.
However, I could get behind the idea that: For every 250,000 clones killed, each active player will get 250,000 SP. No need to limit it, let the community figure out how much they want to contribute and grind...
win win for all
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Numina Sancta
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.12 18:23:00 -
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Maximus Stryker wrote:I support this Idea.
I agree with Commander Wang as not wanting to make this a grind fest as I know the community has angered in the past when the challenges are too grindy.
However, I could get behind the idea that: For every 250,000 clones killed, each active player will get 250,000 SP. No need to limit it, let the community figure out how much they want to contribute and grind...
win win for all
This is a home-run idea. Thinking about all this potential SP gain is making my mouth water.
Sweet, delicious SP.
Come on Commander Wang. Give me the SP. |
Kaughst
Nyain San Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.12 18:25:00 -
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How much booster SP would that be? A extra 2 mil? Cake for the cake god?
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.03.12 18:25:00 -
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It might not be achieved, but if it's stated that it's a stretch goal it'd be something really nice to try for. We might not make it, but if we do it'd be a really nice way to lead up to 1.8. Especially as dropsuit upgrades isn't being refunded.
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
Pradox XVI Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.03.12 18:26:00 -
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D34NOS MAZDA wrote:If you all missed it. Cmdr Wang posted here that he is willing to open this up to a two million clone challenge but does not want to make it a grind. CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:D legendary hero wrote:[quote=CCP Cmdr Wang][quote=CCP Cmdr Wang] CCP I HAVE A REQUEST If we destroy more than 1 million clones do we get more free SP? ie 2 million clones = 2million SP? I see quite a few people asking about this and don't mind setting a stretch goal for 2 million. However, the intent of this event is to set a goal for the community that is realistic and achievable without a lot of time commitment. If we start raising that bar, then it starts the slippery slope towards the grind and that would be my main concern. I for one welcomes this challenge, and do not believe that it will be a grind as there are staged tiers so you have the choice if you want to carry on playing or not. What is everyone's thoughts, Should cmdr wang open it up to the two million mark My vote is yes Yes People need to think of it as a bonus mark.
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jhon hartigan
Maphia Clan Corporation
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Posted - 2014.03.12 18:43:00 -
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Everybody want it!!! |
Supernus Gigas
Star Giants
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Posted - 2014.03.12 22:07:00 -
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Surprised not many people are interested in this. You'd think a potential gain of 4-*******-Million SP in matter of days would gain some support. :\
FIRE UP THE HEAVY MEAT GRINDER! WE'RE HAVIN' CLONE BURGERS TONIGHT, BOYS!
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Denchlad 7
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.12 22:22:00 -
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So wait. If the Omega booster grants a potential 2,000,000 SP from the Million clone challenge + the extra 500k it gives normally...
Does this mean 5 MILLION SP from 3 days?!??!
*vaporizes into the unknown from awe*
If you can't accept change, you will fail in this world.
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Hobo on Fire
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2014.03.12 22:25:00 -
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Maximus Stryker wrote:I support this Idea.
However, I could get behind the idea that: For every 250,000 clones killed, each active player will get 250,000 SP. No need to limit it, let the community figure out how much they want to contribute and grind...
This is the way to go right here. Other events were "grindy" because we had a stated finish line that was, for most players, a reach.
If we just remove the finish line to see how far we can go, it's not a grind, it's a challenge. |
Luther Mandrix
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.03.12 22:31:00 -
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2.000.000GêÜ4.000 players = 500 kills or 166 kills a day.If 4000 players can kill 166 a day 2 million climes are dead. |
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CCP Saberwing
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.12 22:39:00 -
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75kcirtaP wrote:Two million clones in three days? Yeah, that's not happening. Where there's a will...
I agree with Cmdr Wang - it's about setting the target realistically so that it doesn't feel too much of a grind. Careful balance there. I'm open to the idea of setting a stretch goal too. :)
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Aeon Amadi
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.03.12 22:41:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:75kcirtaP wrote:Two million clones in three days? Yeah, that's not happening. Where there's a will... I agree with Cmdr Wang - it's about setting the target realistically so that it doesn't feel too much of a grind. Careful balance there. I'm open to the idea of setting a stretch goal too. :)
OVER 900- wait.... Nyx that.
Yeah, stretch goals are cool as long as they're not too specific. Killing 1,500 heavies per player is... Eeeshh. We have lives man!
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.03.12 23:08:00 -
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Absolutely. When there are staged rewards, it's a challenge, not a grind.
You cannot back away from a CHALLENGE!
BRING ME MOAR CLONES TO KILL!!!1!!1!11!!!
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Floyd20 Azizora
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.03.12 23:11:00 -
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can you set it so we get 1 sp per clone killed? with an endless limit |
Seeth Mensch
Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.12 23:14:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:75kcirtaP wrote:Two million clones in three days? Yeah, that's not happening. Where there's a will... I agree with Cmdr Wang - it's about setting the target realistically so that it doesn't feel too much of a grind. Careful balance there. I'm open to the idea of setting a stretch goal too. :)
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boba's fetta
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2014.03.12 23:15:00 -
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this would be badass. i plan to donate 500 corpse's to the cause both mine and other peoples.
i want proxie chat so i can run around in the gall heavy saying GET IN MAH BELLY. nah just kidding trade window please=)
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Scheherazade VII
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Posted - 2014.03.12 23:20:00 -
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ill go 40/20 in a 10k MLT light frame shotgun/speed suit every game if that helps! |
MrShooter01
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.03.12 23:22:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:75kcirtaP wrote:Two million clones in three days? Yeah, that's not happening. Where there's a will... I agree with Cmdr Wang - it's about setting the target realistically so that it doesn't feel too much of a grind. Careful balance there. I'm open to the idea of setting a stretch goal too. :)
Glad to see you guys are taking the constructive whining criticism into account, I got a bit sick of "forcing" myself to use heavies at around 200 kills and gave up on ever touching that sweet, sweet 750ksp
I think the thing about the skillpoint grind factor is, if we're offered skillpoints based on our individual performance in an event and we don't reach the stated cap, we're more likely to be upset about the amount of skillpoints we personally failed to get than the bonus we did get. Sure, maybe a sane, rational person would look at it like "well I didn't get the max possible skillpoint payout for participating in this event but I got some which is nice", but you know. It's us you're dealing with.
The thing about this event is the burden of "winning" it isn't on the individual player trying to reach a large goal like 1000 kills with a heavy, its shared by the whole community. I think that's nice.
Whether we reach 250k kills or a million I won't feel like I personally failed to dedicate enough playtime or effort. I don't think adding any number of stretch goals that you're comfortable with giving without screwing up your player progression plans is going to result in much whining
I think I'm going to have fun this weekend. Maybe you could try a hybrid of this total community effort skillpoint reward system and individual item rewards for individual player kills for a future event? |
Cotsy8
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.03.12 23:23:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:75kcirtaP wrote:Two million clones in three days? Yeah, that's not happening. Where there's a will... I agree with Cmdr Wang - it's about setting the target realistically so that it doesn't feel too much of a grind. Careful balance there. I'm open to the idea of setting a stretch goal too. :)
Okay, 2 million challenge sounds amazing. If it is possible to expand the parameters and make further benchmarks at 1.5 and 2 that would be great.
It's okay if we fail, but many would like to see how far we can go. 2 mil clones. Let's make it happen LogiBro. |
CommanderBolt
ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.12 23:25:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:75kcirtaP wrote:Two million clones in three days? Yeah, that's not happening. Where there's a will... I agree with Cmdr Wang - it's about setting the target realistically so that it doesn't feel too much of a grind. Careful balance there. I'm open to the idea of setting a stretch goal too. :)
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Scheneighnay McBob
Endless Hatred Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2014.03.12 23:31:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:75kcirtaP wrote:Two million clones in three days? Yeah, that's not happening. Where there's a will... I agree with Cmdr Wang - it's about setting the target realistically so that it doesn't feel too much of a grind. Careful balance there. I'm open to the idea of setting a stretch goal too. :) What constitutes friendly fire?
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