DUST Search - Two million clone challenge

MrShooter01 wrote:

CCP Saberwing wrote:

75kcirtaP wrote:

Two million clones in three days? Yeah, that's not happening.

Where there's a will...

I agree with Cmdr Wang - it's about setting the target realistically so that it doesn't feel too much of a grind. Careful balance there. I'm open to the idea of setting a stretch goal too. :)

Glad to see you guys are taking the constructive ~~whining~~ criticism into account, I got a bit sick of "forcing" myself to use heavies at around 200 kills and gave up on ever touching that sweet, sweet 750ksp

I think the thing about the skillpoint grind factor is, if we're offered skillpoints based on our individual performance in an event and we don't reach the stated cap, we're more likely to be upset about the amount of skillpoints we personally failed to get than the bonus we did get. Sure, maybe a sane, rational person would look at it like "well I didn't get the max possible skillpoint payout for participating in this event but I got some which is nice", but you know. It's us you're dealing with.

The thing about this event is the burden of "winning" it isn't on the individual player trying to reach a large goal like 1000 kills with a heavy, its shared by the whole community. I think that's nice.

Whether we reach 250k kills or a million I won't feel like I personally failed to dedicate enough playtime or effort. I don't think adding any number of stretch goals that you're comfortable with giving without screwing up your player progression plans is going to result in much whining Blink

I think I'm going to have fun this weekend. Maybe you could try a hybrid of this total community effort skillpoint reward system and individual item rewards for individual player kills for a future event?

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axu jen The Phoenix Federation 27	Posted - 2014.03.12 23:33:00 - [31] - Quote Im all down for this, i pretty much have the whole weekend reserved for this.
Pvt Numnutz R 0 N 1 N 952	Posted - 2014.03.12 23:34:00 - [32] - Quote If we go above 1 million we should get bonus sp, but we should start talking about that when we are closer to the goal, if we still have a day left and are in the 900k area then we should press cmd wang for the bonus
WUT ANG D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 140	Posted - 2014.03.12 23:34:00 - [33] - Quote I wish they could tell us how many clones are lost on average daily!!!! (Tell us if you can) 4KD Minmatar Assault "LONG LIVE DARK LEGION"
Egonz4 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 92	Posted - 2014.03.12 23:35:00 - [34] - Quote yes do it!!!! we will be running starter fits anyway so... MASTER OF THE FLAYLOCK
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 2352	Posted - 2014.03.13 00:01:00 - [35] - Quote MrShooter01 wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: 75kcirtaP wrote: Two million clones in three days? Yeah, that's not happening. Where there's a will... I agree with Cmdr Wang - it's about setting the target realistically so that it doesn't feel too much of a grind. Careful balance there. I'm open to the idea of setting a stretch goal too. :) Glad to see you guys are taking the constructive ~~whining~~ criticism into account, I got a bit sick of "forcing" myself to use heavies at around 200 kills and gave up on ever touching that sweet, sweet 750ksp I think the thing about the skillpoint grind factor is, if we're offered skillpoints based on our individual performance in an event and we don't reach the stated cap, we're more likely to be upset about the amount of skillpoints we personally failed to get than the bonus we did get. Sure, maybe a sane, rational person would look at it like "well I didn't get the max possible skillpoint payout for participating in this event but I got some which is nice", but you know. It's us you're dealing with. The thing about this event is the burden of "winning" it isn't on the individual player trying to reach a large goal like 1000 kills with a heavy, its shared by the whole community. I think that's nice. Whether we reach 250k kills or a million I won't feel like I personally failed to dedicate enough playtime or effort. I don't think adding any number of stretch goals that you're comfortable with giving without screwing up your player progression plans is going to result in much whining I think I'm going to have fun this weekend. Maybe you could try a hybrid of this total community effort skillpoint reward system and individual item rewards for individual player kills for a future event? Nah, the whole point is for this to be a community event, all of us working together towards a single goal and not individual stats. That makes it MORE fun, as selfish boosting is unnecessary. Look at it this way, we have the original event. If we try real hard, they'll give us a bonus for doing a better job and exceeding expectations! "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.2 Amarr victor!
GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR Ahrendee Mercenaries 1136	Posted - 2014.03.13 00:02:00 - [36] - Quote U give us unlimited SP we give u 2 million :-) AMARR PROTO DONUT PROFICIENCY 5 I MAKE DUST VIDEOS CLICK HERE FOR DONUTS :)
Necandi Brasil DUST BRASIL S.A Proficiency V. 807	Posted - 2014.03.13 00:09:00 - [37] - Quote I would agree to go for 2 million! DUST BRASIL S.A (DBSA) *DIRECTOR* We have ringers available (Contact: Sadashi or Necandi Brasil)
Charlotte O'Dell Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2109	Posted - 2014.03.13 00:18:00 - [38] - Quote How about 1 kill = 1 sp Then it feels less like a grind and encourages everyone to play. Right now, im sure some people will just log 10 battles and hope others will do the work for them. if 1k=1sp, then everyone would try harder to get more kills. hell, i wont even be mad when i die this time around :P Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
CYRAX SERVIUS Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1198	Posted - 2014.03.13 00:20:00 - [39] - Quote How the hell can we kill clones when we can't get into battle? CEO Whiskey squad leader Official Dust 514 movie style popcorn manufacturer and distributor.
Charlotte O'Dell Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2109	Posted - 2014.03.13 00:21:00 - [40] - Quote well, if everyone gets 20 kills/hour, plays 3 hours, and there are 4000 ppl online, that's 240,000/day, We could probably get 1,680,000 kills in a week. 2 mil is impossible with the current playerbase. Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!

Supernus Gigas Star Giants 445	Posted - 2014.03.13 00:22:00 - [41] - Quote Charlotte O'Dell wrote: well, if everyone gets 20 kills/hour, plays 3 hours, and there are 4000 ppl online, that's 240,000/day, We could probably get 1,680,000 kills in a week. 2 mil is impossible with the current playerbase. Not with that attitude. Plus, it's only 4000 on at any given time, it's not like it's the same 4000 people playing 24/7. *FIRE UP THE HEAVY MEAT GRINDER! WE'RE HAVIN' CLONE BURGERS TONIGHT, BOYS!*
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1954	Posted - 2014.03.13 00:40:00 - [42] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: 75kcirtaP wrote: Two million clones in three days? Yeah, that's not happening. Where there's a will... I agree with Cmdr Wang - it's about setting the target realistically so that it doesn't feel too much of a grind. Careful balance there. I'm open to the idea of setting a stretch goal too. :) After we hit the 1 million early expand the goal please. Something like "Seems like 1 Million is no challenge for you. Let's see if you can manage this stretch goal" Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
Lanius Pulvis Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 184	Posted - 2014.03.13 00:50:00 - [43] - Quote Yup Not new, just new to you.
lithkul devant Legions of Infinite Dominion Zero-Day 155	Posted - 2014.03.13 01:18:00 - [44] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: 75kcirtaP wrote: Two million clones in three days? Yeah, that's not happening. Where there's a will... I agree with Cmdr Wang - it's about setting the target realistically so that it doesn't feel too much of a grind. Careful balance there. I'm open to the idea of setting a stretch goal too. :) The only issue I see with us hitting the two million mark is, "can the servers keep up?" Honestly I think we have a 50-50 chance of crashing them. So....on that note if we crash your servers do we get bonus points?
Meee One The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day 510	Posted - 2014.03.13 01:27:00 - [45] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: 75kcirtaP wrote: Two million clones in three days? Yeah, that's not happening. Where there's a will... I agree with Cmdr Wang - it's about setting the target realistically so that it doesn't feel too much of a grind. Careful balance there. I'm open to the idea of setting a stretch goal too. :) Remove the limit and make it an event about milestones. Every 250k = 250k SP! Only users lose drugs. Time wounds all heels.
Benjamin Ciscko Fatal Absolution 1864	Posted - 2014.03.13 01:34:00 - [46] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: 75kcirtaP wrote: Two million clones in three days? Yeah, that's not happening. Where there's a will... I agree with Cmdr Wang - it's about setting the target realistically so that it doesn't feel too much of a grind. Careful balance there. I'm open to the idea of setting a stretch goal too. :) Track all the kills on Thursday then increase that by 1.5x or double it and then triple that for the three day thing and see if it reaches around 1mil. If it's a hassle who cares it's optional and you will get the sp for just playing 10 games and having everyone else do the work it's the week end anyway. Team carry Prof. IV I need Full Proto and five Proto Bodyguards to be good.
Vapor Forseti THE-TITANS 175	Posted - 2014.03.13 01:42:00 - [47] - Quote I support this with every fiber of my merc being. I want to see how far this community can go. Make it happen Wang! >CCP Saberwing: "NERF EVERYTHING!!!" *THE-TITANS* Director
Ardens Machina Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2014.03.13 03:07:00 - [48] - Quote Has there been any word from Commander Wang or any other CCP guys about this actually being implemented besides what OP posted? It'd be great if this became a reality.
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 2217	Posted - 2014.03.13 03:10:00 - [49] - Quote Alright Mercs, I am incentivizing an efficiency program for this event. If you want to win the million clone challenge, read this Video: I don't always fight dropships, but when I do...
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1398	Posted - 2014.03.13 04:19:00 - [50] - Quote starter fit medic assault , massdriver 20 and 20 for ten games 200 and 200, or 40 games 800 and 800 , per day yeah lets do it lets see 800 and 800 times 1000 gives 800, 000 and 800,000, times 4 what prize for 4 million kills ? Hey CCP get a PS4 client Planetside 2 in June on PS4 Dust Deserters Alliance

Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1398	Posted - 2014.03.13 04:23:00 - [51] - Quote Charlotte O'Dell wrote: well, if everyone gets 20 kills/hour, plays 3 hours, and there are 4000 ppl online, that's 240,000/day, We could probably get 1,680,000 kills in a week. 2 mil is impossible with the current playerbase. no. player counts for event will be above 5000 starter fit medic assault, massdriver 20 and 20 per GAME,, ten games 200 and 200, or 40 games 800 and 800 times 1000 gives 800, 000 and 800 000 times 4 what prize for 4 million kills ? Hey CCP get a PS4 client Planetside 2 in June on PS4 Dust Deserters Alliance
D34NOS MAZDA WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 373	Posted - 2014.03.13 08:10:00 - [52] - Quote ok some simple maths 20 kills per hr 23.5 hrs in a day (less downtime) 4000 average number of players (over the 24 hr period 3 days in the event 20 * 23.5 * 4000 * 3 = 5,640,000 Lets say an average of 3000 players 20 * 23.5 * 3000 * 3 = 4,230,000 Now lets say only 10 kills per hour per merc 10 * 23.5 * 3000 * 3 = 2,115,000 This event should be easy looking at the numbers
Derpty Derp It's All Gone Derp 117	Posted - 2014.03.13 08:22:00 - [53] - Quote Every event needs to give a larger bonus if we aren't going to set back progress for newcomers that join the game when it becomes less repetative... Which means starting at 1mil and having future events increase may be a better idea. On the other hand... MOAR SP!!! I approve.
STEALTH HUNTER ZERO D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 170	Posted - 2014.03.13 08:32:00 - [54] - Quote I think we can achieve 2 million without too much trouble. Also don't forget to double tap in case some didn't get the memo!
SHOOT ME4 1MILLIONSP Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 3	Posted - 2014.03.13 09:05:00 - [55] - Quote Oh man. Now my name is soooo yesterday Don't like me. I wont be around for ever.
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1956	Posted - 2014.03.13 12:18:00 - [56] - Quote Meee One wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: 75kcirtaP wrote: Two million clones in three days? Yeah, that's not happening. Where there's a will... I agree with Cmdr Wang - it's about setting the target realistically so that it doesn't feel too much of a grind. Careful balance there. I'm open to the idea of setting a stretch goal too. :) Remove the limit and make it an event about milestones. Every 250k = 250k SP! Too boring. I think a stretch goal should really be a stretch goal and don't have save points on the way. Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
Izlare Lenix FREE AGENTS LP 206	Posted - 2014.03.13 12:22:00 - [57] - Quote Getting 2 mil clone deaths would only require about 483 kills every min during the three days. With a peak of about 3800 players and a low of around 1200 players we can easily hit two million deaths if we try. Gun control is not about guns...it's about control. The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1134	Posted - 2014.03.13 12:26:00 - [58] - Quote Since only DS command is getting a respec, I really hope that 2m is made available. Will help make up for the weapon respec we never got for the new rifles. MAG ~ Raven
lrian Locust Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 369	Posted - 2014.03.13 13:06:00 - [59] - Quote I'll go full scout, with minimum eHP and maximum damage mods and explosives! MADNESS!
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 1123	Posted - 2014.03.13 13:17:00 - [60] - Quote How about making it a Million Kills minimum, if we hit more than that, then they can give the same amount of SP... ie: If we killl 1.2 mill clones, they can give us 1.2 mill clones, if we kill 1.75 mil clones, they can give us 1.75 mil clones. Just match the amount of kills :)



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