Excuse my Eve-nerd but why are dust elections not in process now like Eve? I know Saberwing was super excited back in November 2013 about coming elections and all the amazing candidates (full disclosure I despise elections so I am mocking saberwing).

That said, I accept elections are going to happen but why aren't they? CCP Logibro you are in charge here whats up?

Why the desire to keep cpm0 still? They were tasked with white paper -done and a 6 month term - done

Also I remember when cpm0 said that they wouldn't run for cpm1 yet I dont see any statement about that. More so it seems they are all secretly waiting for the right time. So they have an advantage?

what say you cpm1 fanbois?

Put simply the hold up is the current plan for CCP Rouge to share his vision and thoughts for a road map and future of Dust 514 with his first Dev blog since his introduction to the community back in October.

Once that happens and the community and the candidates themselves know what the jig is, then they'll announce the election dates. With it increasingly looking likely that the date for 1.8 is either the 18th or 25th, I would surmise that the details will be made then.

So my considered guess is late March with the election dates being the middle two weeks of April and the announcement of the successful candidates during the Dust Keynote at Fanfest, which if the same as last year will be on Thursday May 1.

Part of the problem in answering questions such as this right at this moment is that the candidates, like the community, is very much in the dark as to what the road map that CCP Rouge has in mind for Dust 514.

This is hopefully going to made clearer before 1.8 hits and must be made known before the election dates are announced, as voters will need that information, as well as the candidates, to make an informed decision.

Dennie made a wise observation over here:


Do NOT mistake this response as me speaking on behalf of CCP in any way, nor an indication of when information will be coming. But Kevall is absolutely right, uninformed elections without a better idea of the bigger picture are pretty pointless. The future of EVE is pretty well known and mapped out, Dust not so much. I don't think the two situations are comparable right now.

As for myself, I will not be running in the next election, either way. It's time for me to retire and allow the next set of qualified candidates step up, even though I'll still be around playing and supporting Dust however I can. I hope one of the other current CPM members does have the time and energy to run for election, continuity is crucial with institutions like these and incumbents have been critical to maintaining progress in the CSM historically. However, while all of them have my endorsement should they choose to run, there are no current CPM0 members that have stated interest in running for election at this point and time.

I will say this much - a lot of discussion and planning has gone into setting up the election system, and there won't be any "SURPRISE!!" registration announcements, or rushed proceedings. There will be plenty of warning for candidates and time for them to prepare. CCP will share more about this at the appropriate time.

Dennie made a wise observation over here:


Do NOT mistake this response as me speaking on behalf of CCP in any way, nor an indication of when information will be coming. But Kevall is absolutely right, uninformed elections without a better idea of the bigger picture are pretty pointless. The future of EVE is pretty well known and mapped out, Dust not so much. I don't think the two situations are comparable right now.

As for myself, I will not be running in the next election, either way. It's time for me to retire and allow the next set of qualified candidates step up, even though I'll still be around playing and supporting Dust however I can. I hope one of the other current CPM members does have the time and energy to run for election, continuity is crucial with institutions like these and incumbents have been critical to maintaining progress in the CSM historically. However, while all of them have my endorsement should they choose to run, there are no current CPM0 members that have stated interest in running for election at this point and time.

I will say this much - a lot of discussion and planning has gone into setting up the election system, and there won't be any "SURPRISE!!" registration announcements, or rushed proceedings. There will be plenty of warning for candidates and time for them to prepare. CCP will share more about this at the appropriate time.

This has nothing to do with "getting it right" (CCP logibro's plan is fine) and everything to do with CCP Saberwing as selling it as "elections are going to happen" last november on IRC (and forums). The likes of Soraya and others popped over night selling themselves to the community. Almost 5 months later all we know is how the voting system will work and thats it.

I think its fair to say that it should be cpm1 that is heading to fanfest 2014 (if you keep up with eve election cycle and cpm0 went last year). For the record while I would like to punch most of cpm0 I think they have done a good job for us and have no problem with them still being our reps at fanfest14.

I'm just a concerned dust citizen and am curious to why we aren't having elections like normal Eve-esq cycle. Full disclosure I am not running for cpm1 as i prefer to be community antagonist and not ccp propaganda

The recently elected CSM winners have never been flown to FF, only those that have completed a term. Again, EVE comparisons aren't really helpful in this case.

There's pretty much nothing "normal" in general about the current situation (this is a good thing, "normal" for Dust is well.....).

Anyways, Saberwing is still correct. Elections will happen. They'll happen when its an appropriate time to have them. That's all I can say at this time.

Can I take that as confirmation a CPM member newly elected will be required to be financially able to meet all commitments associated with the role? I feel that is worth pointing out the wider community if it already hasn't.

Simply applying for the role is a big decision and commitment, especially when you are responsible for representing the wider community of this game.

The recently elected CSM winners have never been flown to FF, only those that have completed a term. Again, EVE comparisons aren't really helpful in this case.

There's pretty much nothing "normal" in general about the current situation (this is a good thing, "normal" for Dust is well.....).

Anyways, Saberwing is still correct. Elections will happen. They'll happen when its an appropriate time to have them. That's all I can say at this time.

Nothing a CPM member says should ever be taken as confirmation of anything, really. Confirmations always come from CCP and CCP alone.

But as to your question, I'm a bit confused. No CSM or CPM member have ever been financially required to do anything at all, except maintain a current passport.

The likes of Soraya and others popped over night selling themselves to the community.