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Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 348	Posted - 2014.03.11 14:54:00 - [1] - Quote Im just interested in one thing. How our community see the CCP globaly, their progress, achievments through DUST 514. And their care for customer. By my side of view i really admire their visionary work on concepts/ideas and their customer service. What i hate is no responce by devs, their secrecy and overal feel "like they don care"/"they are lost"/"they dont listen to us". Support - Tactician/Support Deteis - Orator BHD since MAG
Altina McAlterson Pure Innocence. EoN. 913	Posted - 2014.03.11 14:57:00 - [2] - Quote This Running a blaster tank in ambush is like bringing Anthrax to a pillow fight.
Drapedup Drippedout 0uter.Heaven 546	Posted - 2014.03.11 15:00:00 - [3] - Quote Progress would indicate this game has gotten better since launch....so no. Pro-fit Prophet "Gimme yo lunch money"
Onesimus Tarsus Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1515	Posted - 2014.03.11 15:05:00 - [4] - Quote I don't like the glacier analogy. Glaciers move forward. CCP appears to like moving laterally way more than in a forward vector. Unless you're just *addicted* to wetsuit paperdolls...
Ares 514 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 632	Posted - 2014.03.11 15:09:00 - [5] - Quote Disgraceful. The mic bubble bug... I yield, CCP will be fixing it SOON. Current ETA 1 year since bug
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1621	Posted - 2014.03.11 15:18:00 - [6] - Quote I don-¦t even want to comment on the topic of this thread. Drop it like its hat.
Dalmont Legrand 308	Posted - 2014.03.11 15:25:00 - [7] - Quote They care about US customers, that is why lags and unbalance exist. Done. The best is yet to come
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 348	Posted - 2014.03.11 15:25:00 - [8] - Quote That glacial thingy is about cracking, melting or what. Sorry i basicaly dont get what do you meant. I need just global view by you all boyos, without any symbolism. I have already problem with english and second one is my asperger syndrome. I need just direct answer, wihtou them iam just bit more confused Support - Tactician/Support Deteis - Orator BHD since MAG
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 2024	Posted - 2014.03.11 15:32:00 - [9] - Quote Onesimus Tarsus wrote: I don't like the glacier analogy. Glaciers move forward. CCP appears to like moving laterally way more than in a forward vector. HA you said CCP exhibits lateral movement. Assault ak.0 w/ScR+ScP 4LYFE Forum Warrior Level Two. (GëºGêçGëª)/
Beck Weathers Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 737	Posted - 2014.03.11 15:42:00 - [10] - Quote I think its been ok, I do wish they would toss out more hotfixes for some of the obvious broken mechanics rather than wait for a full patch. These forums must be located in the Californin country side, there is whine as far as the eye can see.

Corbina Ninja Maphia Clan Corporation 672	Posted - 2014.03.11 15:47:00 - [11] - Quote CCPs progress > *Test Signature Please Ignore*
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 1350	Posted - 2014.03.11 16:35:00 - [12] - Quote Drapedup Drippedout wrote: Progress would indicate this game has gotten better since launch....so no. lol. noob.
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 1763	Posted - 2014.03.11 16:43:00 - [13] - Quote The damage they've done to their own game - sometime i find myself thinking they've been awoxed. I support SP rollover.
RKKR The Southern Legion League of Infamy 804	Posted - 2014.03.11 17:06:00 - [14] - Quote Sam Tektzby wrote: Im just interested in one thing. How our community see the CCP globaly, their progress, achievments through DUST 514. And their care for customer. By my side of view i really admire their visionary work on concepts/ideas and their customer service. What i hate is no responce by devs, their secrecy and overal feel "like they don care"/"they are lost"/"they dont listen to us". Open your eyes. Visionairy? Ideas? Is that why they change everything all the time? Customer service + your last sentence = .
Altina McAlterson Pure Innocence. EoN. 914	Posted - 2014.03.11 17:08:00 - [15] - Quote Dalmont Legrand wrote: They care about US customers, that is why lags and unbalance exist. Done. Yes. America hates you all and ****** up DUST for the whole world just to spite you. Running a blaster tank in ambush is like bringing Anthrax to a pillow fight.
Free Beers Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1947	Posted - 2014.03.11 17:15:00 - [16] - Quote I think the fact that CCP Rouge has fired people to were talking to us or got them moved off the project is pretty telling of dusts future. Want to talk to ccp about FW, PC, PC 2.0 nope sorry they are now all behind the Great Iron Curtain of Silence. I mean I've heard of bunker mentality when things go bad but seems like ccp has just given up. Also anyone else notice that we have heard nothing about cpm1 voting? Seems they extended cpm0 stay once again to hold off letting us vote a bunch of morons to cpm1 (which couldn't make dust any worse, could it?) TLDR Dust is accurate reflection of ccps dev ability [CCP]FoxFour> STFU beers[CCP]FoxFour> Erm [CCP]FoxFour> I mean[CCP]FoxFour> shit [CCP]FoxFour> you were defending me
lrian Locust Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 363	Posted - 2014.03.11 18:17:00 - [17] - Quote I just think it's strange that CCP can't or won't fix minor details that cause big problems (such as the recent tank speed fix). Such simple changes (10% vs 100% speed increase) should be ninja-nerfed immediately. It messes up the game to an extent that it's frustrating and will cause (newer) players to stop. Something else I find frustrating is that CCP tries to balance with huge steps. We've seen the effect on swarm launchers (huge triple nerf last update), and we'll see it again with damage mods (which will be yet another nerf for swarm launchers). Finally, I fail to see reason in some of the events. They tend to reward protostomping, as if it isn't bad enough. Some people here say it's to quickly gain data, but data gained under different circumstances will be pretty useless.
Free Beers Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1952	Posted - 2014.03.11 18:50:00 - [18] - Quote lrian Locust wrote: I just think it's strange that CCP can't or won't fix minor details that cause big problems (such as the recent tank speed fix). Such simple changes (10% vs 100% speed increase) should be ninja-nerfed immediately. It messes up the game to an extent that it's frustrating and will cause (newer) players to stop. Something else I find frustrating is that CCP tries to balance with huge steps. We've seen the effect on swarm launchers (huge triple nerf last update), and we'll see it again with damage mods (which will be yet another nerf for swarm launchers). Finally, I fail to see reason in some of the events. They tend to reward protostomping, as if it isn't bad enough. Some people here say it's to quickly gain data, but data gained under different circumstances will be pretty useless. You miss understand CCP cmdrwang the dev that doesn't have to listen to us (his words) is in charge of events in dust. His only charge is to get people to log in and nothing more. there is very little ccp can offer in regards to rewards in dust and this is of their own doing. More win for ccp [CCP]FoxFour> STFU beers[CCP]FoxFour> Erm [CCP]FoxFour> I mean[CCP]FoxFour> shit [CCP]FoxFour> you were defending me
Ripley Riley 964	Posted - 2014.03.11 19:00:00 - [19] - Quote CCP is slowly adding the necessary content to Dust by adding new sidearms, dropsuits, and equipment. Unfortunately, they are doing it at a snails pace so by the time Dust is considered a AAA 2014 title it will in fact be 2016. By the time it is a AAA 2016 title it will be 2020. By the time it is a AAA 2020 title the human consciousness will have fused into a super being named Douglas McGerty-Matsu. Douglas mostly plays Civ 5 and a hyper advanced form of tennis called FA-TENNIS9090 so he doesn't have time for DUST 514. "I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
Skihids Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 3022	Posted - 2014.03.11 19:03:00 - [20] - Quote You have to be careful not to confuse motion with progress.

Buster Friently Rosen Association 2009	Posted - 2014.03.11 19:17:00 - [21] - Quote Sam Tektzby wrote: Im just interested in one thing. How our community see the CCP globaly, their progress, achievments through DUST 514. And their care for customer. By my side of view i really admire their visionary work on concepts/ideas and their customer service. What i hate is no responce by devs, their secrecy and overal feel "like they don care"/"they are lost"/"they dont listen to us". What progress?
Patrick57 6019	Posted - 2014.03.11 19:25:00 - [22] - Quote They've got a lot of work to do. But, overall, they seem to be getting a little bit closer to the right path. Just a little bit. I think I'm a forum warrior level 6 :D
Mad Syringe ReDust Inc. 174	Posted - 2014.03.11 19:33:00 - [23] - Quote The only problem with this game and CCP is that they think it's OK to make promises without delivering anything similar to those promises anytime soon. This game is obviously developed by a very small or less than capable team, which has big visions but nowhere near the manpower to deliver anything. Stop whining and adjust your expectations. Tell everybody who is new to the game to not expect anything in the near future. Have pauses playing other games and come back in several month...
Buster Friently Rosen Association 2009	Posted - 2014.03.11 19:42:00 - [24] - Quote Mad Syringe wrote: The only problem with this game and CCP is that they think it's OK to make promises without delivering anything similar to those promises anytime soon. This is called setting expectations, and it is something that CCP, in general, and the Dust team, in particular, are TERRIBLE at. You can't blame the community for expecting CCP to actually deliver what they promise. Honestly, they could use a rule as simple, for starters, as "don't talk up features that won't be ready until after the next fanfest - we'll talk about them at the nearest fanfest", but they don't. Thus, they continue to talk up everything, and deliver next to nothing and look incompetent in the meantime.
Skihids Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 3022	Posted - 2014.03.11 19:45:00 - [25] - Quote DUST can be great, but it's going to take a long time to get there. I've personally adjusted my expectations downward a couple times to the current estimate of 1-2 years if the new EP is any good. Don't expect the next patch to be the savior. Or the next. You will encounter nothing but frustration if you count on it. Just play it for what it is today, a small lobby shooter with significant balance issues, but a nice fitting and skill system.
COVERT SUBTERFUGE PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 583	Posted - 2014.03.11 20:01:00 - [26] - Quote CCP's progress has been somewhat stunted over the past 9-12 months. This is to be expected when you have an EP who for whatever reasons isn't able to deliver. Up until Uprising we were getting decent 3 monthly title changing updates. After Uprising a slew of problems cropped up that needed immediate attention. At EVE Vegas CCP Praetorian said they knew the game wasn't ready for release but they had decided that DUST 514 ought to be made with the gamers so they released it. Uprising 1.0-1.7 brought mostly quality of life changes, some attempts at balancing an incomplete picture, some new suits, weapons and equipment and a vehicle overhaul. While we were still making some steps forward, the game in general suffered from stagnation. We played the same maps, the same modes in the same suits with the same weapons and desperately sought after features like PvE and NPE were left on the way side. PC is a fail but FW is somewhat better since the introduction of LP and the store. Now that there is an executive producer at the helm I have full confidence that things are on the right path. Members of the CPM have stated that CCP has good reason to be quiet and that good things are coming in 1.8 and forward to Fanfest which promises to be the next big evolution of the game. CCP Saberwing said that the NPE is at the heart of what they're doing and Praetorian said that 2014 was the year of 'putting the MMO into DUST 514' and said PvE would come this year. I'm hoping that it was also Rouges directive to get racial parity in suits and I hope that we get parity in weapons, equipment, vehicles and turrets in the next few updates so CCP can finally properly balance things. So yeah, it hasn't progressed at the speed we wanted but you can't expect amazing results during a change of management and if you can't acccept that then you need to skill into realistic expectations and expectation management then come join me in the real world where you understand ** happens and just enjoy the game for what it is while watching it gorw. If you can't do that, just off and go play a nicely polished retail game and stop wasting your finite time on earth in a constant state of butt devastation. it's pathetic to wallow in that **. Proud Minmatar scout - Republic Merc 6/10 Immune to bitter/jaded vet syndrome Roll with the punches instead of QQing
Asirius Medaius 901	Posted - 2014.03.11 20:20:00 - [27] - Quote COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote: CCP's progress has been somewhat stunted over the past 9-12 months. This is to be expected when you have an EP who for whatever reasons isn't able to deliver. Up until Uprising we were getting decent 3 monthly title changing updates. After Uprising a slew of problems cropped up that needed immediate attention. At EVE Vegas CCP Praetorian said they knew the game wasn't ready for release but they had decided that DUST 514 ought to be made with the gamers so they released it. Uprising 1.0-1.7 brought mostly quality of life changes, some attempts at balancing an incomplete picture, some new suits, weapons and equipment and a vehicle overhaul. While we were still making some steps forward, the game in general suffered from stagnation. We played the same maps, the same modes in the same suits with the same weapons and desperately sought after features like PvE and NPE were left on the way side. PC is a fail but FW is somewhat better since the introduction of LP and the store. Now that there is an executive producer at the helm I have full confidence that things are on the right path. Members of the CPM have stated that CCP has good reason to be quiet and that good things are coming in 1.8 and forward to Fanfest which promises to be the next big evolution of the game. CCP Saberwing said that the NPE is at the heart of what they're doing and Praetorian said that 2014 was the year of 'putting the MMO into DUST 514' and said PvE would come this year. I'm hoping that it was also Rouges directive to get racial parity in suits and I hope that we get parity in weapons, equipment, vehicles and turrets in the next few updates so CCP can finally properly balance things. So yeah, it hasn't progressed at the speed we wanted but you can't expect amazing results during a change of management and if you can't acccept that then you need to skill into realistic expectations and expectation management then come join me in the real world where you understand ** happens and just enjoy the game for what it is while watching it gorw. If you can't do that, just off and go play a nicely polished retail game and stop wasting your finite time on earth in a constant state of butt devastation. it's pathetic to wallow in that *. I could not have said this any better. The best we can do is grind out the cap for the week, and keep SP long enough to run Proto when the next content is added. If newbies did the same, it would give them an advantage to try new things out (granted that they cap out at least every week for one month to get some* foundation. Official "SoonGäó" tutorial: TM ----------> Alt+0153 ----------> Gäó
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1915	Posted - 2014.03.11 20:29:00 - [28] - Quote No progress? Things may be borked up with the weapons or what ever your current problems are but the game has gotten better and things have been added and some of those things were player ideas or came from feedback from the players. 5 minutes minimum just to log on. 5 minutes to load contacts just to make a squad. Resets every third game and 5 more minutes to log on. More suits More weapons More maps PC FW Corps ISK transfers Fitting glitches that needed resets that took 5 minutes to log on. Horribly crippling lag in every game mode. Horrible hit direction. The sounds are different but overall better. Bland but looks better. Better visual effects. Better UI Squad Finder Better leader boards Over all better performance Those are just the things I can think of and yes some are borked up and yes there are some vehicles or maps missing but overall we have made progress. To think otherwise is an appeal to tradition. You may not be happy with the progress or agree with what was released or how but you cannot honestly say that there has been no progress. As for CCP and their customer service, they do listen and do what they can to use our suggestions and feedback. CCP does reply to tickets and deal with them appropriately. Don't let frustration with how you think the game should be developed cloud what has happened and the progress we have made. Call me whatever you like but progress has been made and the progress made was player influenced feedback through the CPM and from CCP reading the forums. "You people voted for Hubert Humphrey, and you killed Jesus." Raoul Duke
Free Beers Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1954	Posted - 2014.03.11 20:32:00 - [29] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: No progress? Things may be borked up with the weapons or what ever your current problems are but the game has gotten better and things have been added and some of those things were player ideas or came from feedback from the players. 5 minutes minimum just to log on. 5 minutes to load contacts just to make a squad. Resets every third game and 5 more minutes to log on. More suits More weapons More maps PC FW Corps ISK transfers Fitting glitches that needed resets that took 5 minutes to log on. Horribly crippling lag in every game mode. Horrible hit direction. The sounds are different but overall better. Bland but looks better. Better visual effects. Better UI Squad Finder Better leader boards Over all better performance Those are just the things I can think of and yes some are borked up and yes there are some vehicles or maps missing but overall we have made progress. To think otherwise is an appeal to tradition. You may not be happy with the progress or agree with what was released or how but you cannot honestly say that there has been no progress. As for CCP and their customer service, they do listen and do what they can to use our suggestions and feedback. CCP does reply to tickets and deal with them appropriately. Don't let frustration with how you think the game should be developed cloud what has happened and the progress we have made. Call me whatever you like but progress has been made and the progress made was player influenced feedback through the CPM and from CCP reading the forums. Your list just shows us how bad a game dust was to start. To me if a super fat guy loses 20 pounds he makes progress but is still fat. [CCP]FoxFour> STFU beers[CCP]FoxFour> Erm [CCP]FoxFour> I mean[CCP]FoxFour> shit [CCP]FoxFour> you were defending me
Altina McAlterson Pure Innocence. EoN. 919	Posted - 2014.03.11 20:34:00 - [30] - Quote lrian Locust wrote: I just think it's strange that CCP can't or won't fix minor details that cause big problems (such as the recent tank speed fix). Such simple changes (10% vs 100% speed increase) should be ninja-nerfed immediately. It messes up the game to an extent that it's frustrating and will cause (newer) players to stop. Something else I find frustrating is that CCP tries to balance with huge steps. We've seen the effect on swarm launchers (huge triple nerf last update), and we'll see it again with damage mods (which will be yet another nerf for swarm launchers). Finally, I fail to see reason in some of the events. They tend to reward protostomping, as if it isn't bad enough. Some people here say it's to quickly gain data, but data gained under different circumstances will be pretty useless. CCP has to pay Sony to release hotfixes/patches over PSN. There was talks of a special deal with Sony due to DUST's unique development cycle but I'm not sure of the result. CCP tends to go a little overboard anyway as they have frequently done in EVE and having to pay Sony just makes it worse. Running a blaster tank in ambush is like bringing Anthrax to a pillow fight.

The Robot Devil Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1915	Posted - 2014.03.11 20:34:00 - [31] - Quote Buster Friently wrote: Mad Syringe wrote: The only problem with this game and CCP is that they think it's OK to make promises without delivering anything similar to those promises anytime soon. This is called setting expectations, and it is something that CCP, in general, and the Dust team, in particular, are TERRIBLE at. You can't blame the community for expecting CCP to actually deliver what they promise. Honestly, they could use a rule as simple, for starters, as "don't talk up features that won't be ready until after the next fanfest - we'll talk about them at the nearest fanfest", but they don't. Thus, they continue to talk up everything, and deliver next to nothing and look incompetent in the meantime. Use the current stage of rage about patch notes and use that to judge what this place would be like if they didn't talk about future visions or things they want to push out. "You people voted for Hubert Humphrey, and you killed Jesus." Raoul Duke
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1915	Posted - 2014.03.11 20:36:00 - [32] - Quote Free Beers wrote: The Robot Devil wrote: No progress? Things may be borked up with the weapons or what ever your current problems are but the game has gotten better and things have been added and some of those things were player ideas or came from feedback from the players. 5 minutes minimum just to log on. 5 minutes to load contacts just to make a squad. Resets every third game and 5 more minutes to log on. More suits More weapons More maps PC FW Corps ISK transfers Fitting glitches that needed resets that took 5 minutes to log on. Horribly crippling lag in every game mode. Horrible hit direction. The sounds are different but overall better. Bland but looks better. Better visual effects. Better UI Squad Finder Better leader boards Over all better performance Those are just the things I can think of and yes some are borked up and yes there are some vehicles or maps missing but overall we have made progress. To think otherwise is an appeal to tradition. You may not be happy with the progress or agree with what was released or how but you cannot honestly say that there has been no progress. As for CCP and their customer service, they do listen and do what they can to use our suggestions and feedback. CCP does reply to tickets and deal with them appropriately. Don't let frustration with how you think the game should be developed cloud what has happened and the progress we have made. Call me whatever you like but progress has been made and the progress made was player influenced feedback through the CPM and from CCP reading the forums. Your list just shows us how bad a game dust was to start. To me if a super fat guy loses 20 pounds he makes progress but is still fat. Yes, it is called progress. You can't be thin if you don't lose the first 20 pounds. My point was that progress has been made. "You people voted for Hubert Humphrey, and you killed Jesus." Raoul Duke
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 351	Posted - 2014.03.11 21:08:00 - [33] - Quote Buster Friently wrote: Sam Tektzby wrote: Im just interested in one thing. How our community see the CCP globaly, their progress, achievments through DUST 514. And their care for customer. By my side of view i really admire their visionary work on concepts/ideas and their customer service. What i hate is no responce by devs, their secrecy and overal feel "like they don care"/"they are lost"/"they dont listen to us". What progress? That was question. By CCP there is still progress and i just want to know hot community see that. Progress or not, it seem like im on same note like most od answers here. Support - Tactician/Support Deteis - Orator BHD since MAG
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 351	Posted - 2014.03.11 21:11:00 - [34] - Quote RKKR wrote: Sam Tektzby wrote: Im just interested in one thing. How our community see the CCP globaly, their progress, achievments through DUST 514. And their care for customer. By my side of view i really admire their visionary work on concepts/ideas and their customer service. What i hate is no responce by devs, their secrecy and overal feel "like they don care"/"they are lost"/"they dont listen to us". Open your eyes. Visionairy? Ideas? Is that why they change everything all the time? Customer service + your last sentence = . People on customer service are great, devs are honestly..hmm i have words for it but it can mean ban for me boyo About what i told, vision and design is quite awesome. Another thing is devs again and their responce/work on how that make real. But that another story. I just wanted to know if im not alone, who thinks this game is just sunked potential right now. Ad that potential was great. I bet if they leave that for CCP Iceland it will be, somehow, another story. I just feel it in bones. Support - Tactician/Support Deteis - Orator BHD since MAG
deepfried salad gilliam Sanguine Knights 493	Posted - 2014.03.11 21:19:00 - [35] - Quote i think their finnaly finishing up on a majority of their projects module poll stuff for alts
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 352	Posted - 2014.03.11 21:20:00 - [36] - Quote deepfried salad gilliam wrote: i think their finnaly finishing up on a majority of their projects What a diplomatic sentence Really strategicaly stand Support - Tactician/Support Deteis - Orator BHD since MAG
Leonid Tybalt Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 313	Posted - 2014.03.11 21:27:00 - [37] - Quote I'll sum up ccp's progress in one single word: Glacial...
Chesyre Armundsen Thanes Of Dust 461	Posted - 2014.03.11 21:37:00 - [38] - Quote I think things are moving nicely and am looking forward to the future of DUST Mihi gravato Deus - "Let God lay the burden on me!"
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 353	Posted - 2014.03.11 21:45:00 - [39] - Quote Chesyre Armundsen wrote: I think things are moving nicely and am looking forward to the future of DUST Sorry i cant agree here. Reason is unfullfiled promises. I want see Dust future brighly aswell, but right now there is storm on horizont and sadly CCP dont provide us with umbrela or raincoats. Support - Tactician/Support Deteis - Orator BHD since MAG
thesupertman Better Hide R Die 162	Posted - 2014.03.11 21:46:00 - [40] - Quote CCP is the one of the fastest developers out there! This game need more vehicles! dangCCPyou'reslowpickupthepace

Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 353	Posted - 2014.03.11 21:49:00 - [41] - Quote Leonid Tybalt wrote: I'll sum up ccp's progress in one single word: Glacial... Oki how i told before, i dont clearly understand it. But i try to tell my feels in similar meaning. If there is glacial i want to see what will be behind it, but i dont want end like +ûtzi. Support - Tactician/Support Deteis - Orator BHD since MAG
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 353	Posted - 2014.03.11 21:50:00 - [42] - Quote thesupertman wrote: CCP is the one of the fastest developers out there! Hmmm nope boyo If that was sarcasm sorry, im basicaly like dr. Sheldon Cooper if there is sarcasm thingy meant ps.:its nice to see another BHD survivor here Support - Tactician/Support Deteis - Orator BHD since MAG
Stefan Stahl Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 451	Posted - 2014.03.11 21:54:00 - [43] - Quote Somehow this game has been a 3/10 ever since the closed beta, for different reasons in each stage. Weird actually.
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 353	Posted - 2014.03.11 22:00:00 - [44] - Quote Stefan Stahl wrote: Somehow this game has been a 3/10 ever since the closed beta, for different reasons in each stage. Weird actually. Maybe thats that progress, bt honestly we can be negative like this. There is some good thingies, but what is sad, hese thingies are overal hidden in shadow of major setbacks. What really making me sad. Support - Tactician/Support Deteis - Orator BHD since MAG
CYRAX SERVIUS Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1158	Posted - 2014.03.11 22:06:00 - [45] - Quote Popcorn anybody? CEO Whiskey squad leader Invictus Maneo~"I Remain Unvanquished"~
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 354	Posted - 2014.03.11 22:11:00 - [46] - Quote CYRAX SERVIUS wrote: Popcorn anybody? Nope thanx i have here few years old rioja and thats not good with popcorn Support - Tactician/Support Deteis - Orator BHD since MAG
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8111	Posted - 2014.03.11 22:16:00 - [47] - Quote If I am looking objectively I can see the huge leaps and bounds the game has had in many of its aspects, mainly graphic and map design. These areas of dust are lovely. Also the abundance of content, even if not fully fleshed out just yet. However there are some aspects were have seen changed in massive ways and I cannot really say I am happy about, but I can appreciate the work that went into the changes to those aspects. Vehicle balance, while not to my preference, and I preferred the 1.6 models where even underpowered the skilled tankers flourished. In many ways dust has advanced from what it was in its earlier builds.....however I am looking forwards to future builds which come closer to what we saw in 2009. " ..- -.- --. I wish I remembered morse code so I wasn't typing random letters" - Malleus Malificorum
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 354	Posted - 2014.03.11 22:17:00 - [48] - Quote True Adamance wrote: If I am looking objectively I can see the huge leaps and bounds the game has had in many of its aspects, mainly graphic and map design. These areas of dust are lovely. Also the abundance of content, even if not fully fleshed out just yet. However there are some aspects were have seen changed in massive ways and I cannot really say I am happy about, but I can appreciate the work that went into the changes to those aspects. Vehicle balance, while not to my preference, and I preferred the 1.6 models where even underpowered the skilled tankers flourished. In many ways dust has advanced from what it was in its earlier builds.....however I am looking forwards to future builds which come closer to what we saw in 2009. The other thing is what it lostfrom that builds before. Support - Tactician/Support Deteis - Orator BHD since MAG
BAD FURRY SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 643	Posted - 2014.03.11 22:21:00 - [49] - Quote Altina McAlterson wrote: This and This Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
HYENAKILLER X Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 664	Posted - 2014.03.11 22:21:00 - [50] - Quote Vehicles and scotty regarding fw is the only problem. Im not from new eden. I dont need back up, political power or support. I, unlike you dont fear nuetral territory.

Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 356	Posted - 2014.03.11 22:21:00 - [51] - Quote This Ryan was awesome XD Support - Tactician/Support Deteis - Orator BHD since MAG
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 356	Posted - 2014.03.11 22:23:00 - [52] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: Vehicles and scotty regarding fw is the only problem. Nope, there is many more by my side of view like no repsec, no pilot suits, no MAVs and everything else what was lost in time. Support - Tactician/Support Deteis - Orator BHD since MAG
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1388	Posted - 2014.03.11 22:24:00 - [53] - Quote Sam Tektzby wrote: Im just interested in one thing. How our community see the CCP globaly, their progress, achievments through DUST 514. And their care for customer. By my side of view i really admire their visionary work on concepts/ideas and their customer service. What i hate is no responce by devs, their secrecy and overal feel "like they don care"/"they are lost"/"they dont listen to us". I sent in a support ticket a MONTH ago and still no response. Anywho in a few months its not going to matter much since I plan to be playing Infamous SS, Planetside 2, Destiny, Watch Dogs, Dark Souls, etc and a bit later The Witcher 3, Borderlands 3, Hey CCP get a PS4 client Planetside 2 in June on PS4 Dust Deserters Alliance
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 356	Posted - 2014.03.11 22:27:00 - [54] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Sam Tektzby wrote: Im just interested in one thing. How our community see the CCP globaly, their progress, achievments through DUST 514. And their care for customer. By my side of view i really admire their visionary work on concepts/ideas and their customer service. What i hate is no responce by devs, their secrecy and overal feel "like they don care"/"they are lost"/"they dont listen to us". I sent in a support ticket a MONTH ago and still no response. Anywho in a few months its not going to matter much since I plan to be playing Infamous SS, Planetside 2, Destiny, Watch Dogs, Dark Souls, etc and a bit later The Witcher 3, Borderlands 3, I sent them issue with flat and they tried to solve that, we still working on that. I sent them ticket about respec too and they told me they can tell anything till 1.8 or later. Thats basicaly whole story now, but i still see GM scottsman ad his support people like good boyos. Sadly i thing really less about devs. Support - Tactician/Support Deteis - Orator BHD since MAG
Aeon Amadi Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 5183	Posted - 2014.03.11 22:29:00 - [55] - Quote CCP's Method of Balancing Useful Links //forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=133588 //forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=134182
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 357	Posted - 2014.03.11 22:30:00 - [56] - Quote Yup i see something similar Support - Tactician/Support Deteis - Orator BHD since MAG
Kigurosaka Laaksonen DUST University Ivy League 582	Posted - 2014.03.11 22:48:00 - [57] - Quote It's alright. I could be worse, I guess. Meh. Y'know. Whatever. DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/ EVE Buddy Invite - Too damn long. Ask me for it.
Draco Cerberus BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 827	Posted - 2014.03.11 22:49:00 - [58] - Quote I started this thread in January, and recently resurrected it due to the 1.8 upcoming release [Request] Bring out the real game, the one we wanted when we watched the trailers and believe there are alot of things in this thread that encompass what many in the community are feeling, have a read if you haven't already. LogiGod earns his pips
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 359	Posted - 2014.03.11 23:27:00 - [59] - Quote Draco Cerberus wrote: I started this thread in January, and recently resurrected it due to the 1.8 upcoming release [Request] Bring out the real game, the one we wanted when we watched the trailers and believe there are alot of things in this thread that encompass what many in the community are feeling, have a read if you haven't already. NIce touch Support - Tactician/Support Deteis - Orator BHD since MAG
Baal Roo Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 3035	Posted - 2014.03.11 23:41:00 - [60] - Quote The game has improved in some areas since the original closed beta, and in other ways it has catapulted backwards. In the end, I'd say it was a wash overall in terms of progress, and that the current build is probably the least enjoyable build yet for me personally. As far as customer service is concerned, I've been burnt by CCP a few too many times with their false promises and bait & switch tactics on their real world currency goods to give them anything other than a big fat F-. The only reason I haven't started playing Eve: Online has been their overall terrible customer service here in Dust 514.

Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 361	Posted - 2014.03.11 23:44:00 - [61] - Quote Baal Roo wrote: The game has improved in some areas since the original closed beta, and in other ways it has catapulted backwards. In the end, I'd say it was a wash overall in terms of progress, and that the current build is probably the least enjoyable build yet for me personally. As far as customer service is concerned, I've been burnt by CCP a few too many times with their false promises and bait & switch tactics on their real world currency goods to give them anything other than a big fat F-. The only reason I haven't started playing Eve: Online has been their overall terrible customer service here in Dust 514. I meant customer service like boyos and gals on phone, not real listenig to community. Phone boyos and gals around CCP scotsman are fine, but developing and their listening to community is somehow f.cuuked up. I dont know why, i never had this issue before. But right now i see that like one of the BIGGEST issues here. Support - Tactician/Support Deteis - Orator BHD since MAG
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8119	Posted - 2014.03.11 23:50:00 - [62] - Quote Sam Tektzby wrote: True Adamance wrote: If I am looking objectively I can see the huge leaps and bounds the game has had in many of its aspects, mainly graphic and map design. These areas of dust are lovely. Also the abundance of content, even if not fully fleshed out just yet. However there are some aspects were have seen changed in massive ways and I cannot really say I am happy about, but I can appreciate the work that went into the changes to those aspects. Vehicle balance, while not to my preference, and I preferred the 1.6 models where even underpowered the skilled tankers flourished. In many ways dust has advanced from what it was in its earlier builds.....however I am looking forwards to future builds which come closer to what we saw in 2009. The other thing is what it lostfrom that builds before. Indeed earlier builds in some regards had what I can only describe as weight. In previous builds your merc felt tangibly present and immersed in the battle around him. " ..- -.- --. I wish I remembered morse code so I wasn't typing random letters" - Malleus Malificorum
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 361	Posted - 2014.03.11 23:52:00 - [63] - Quote Exactly, now its just running and dying. Its like CoD just run, kill something..oh wait we can put her droplink, but after few sec..run kill and hoyo boyo..die. I just want better game, feel that feel like on chromo, when you was scared by any movement around. Now its just run2point or run2die, nothng else. Support - Tactician/Support Deteis - Orator BHD since MAG
Naviticus OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 51	Posted - 2014.03.12 00:11:00 - [64] - Quote From a friends perspective on why he doesn't play as much anymore "Dust just isn't progressing at the scale I had hoped. Stagnant game-breaking issues that I used to joke about now just frustrate me because they've gone so long without being fixed. The issues that have been keeping me away: --"New" content-is often just bullshit copy-paste of previous content. (Example: Commando Suits -- which are just heavy suits with some values changed and a paint job... If CCP's style is going to be like that, then there should be TONS of new content rolling out constantly. It doesn't take more than a couple hours to paint a skin and change some numeric values in an excel spreadsheet, and it certainly doesn't constitute a "major update" --Dwindling playerbase/New player experience - I've attempted to recruit so many old BF players to Dust over the year or so I've been playing. The new player experience is absolute ** and none of my friends (read: Zero out of about fifteen) have stuck with it for more than a week or two. This is a microcosm for the entire Dust experience which leaves new players hanging out to dry after only one or two games in academy. No tutorial, no PVE and an extremely short academy = horrible New player experience & stagnating playerbase. --Bugs/**** Coding - This is what happens when you outsource your coders. One of the best examples with a long history is the RDV code for vehicle deployments. I've been playing about a year and the vehicle deployment code has been re-written (or more likely, tweaked) dozens of times. Every time they get it wrong. Sometimes it gets a little bit better, sometimes it gets a little bit worse. The end result is that after a year of trying to fix something, they have been unable to do so. This, and other similar examples, make me incredibly apprehensive about investing time in this game in hope of a "long-term" plan. --Janky Gameplay & Other Games - For how simple Dust 514 is, it should run flawlessly on a PS3. Simple textures, box-shaped low-poly buildings, etc. This game should be soaring at 60+ FPS even with 16 on 16. Instead we see massive framerate issues, server lag spikes and a near necessity to equip your PS3 with a SSD to support the game. As an example, check out BF3 gameplay or Crysis gameplay - Both of these are much more visually impressive, yet run much smoother than Dust. I attribute this to a spider-web of bad code that may get you from Point A to Point B, but you're going to have to hit R,F,L,M and Q on your way there.... The reality is that without a ground-up rebuild with a better coding team and on a better engine, I don't see Dust competing with other options. Let's be honest, the Unreal engine is garbage."
Buster Friently Rosen Association 2011	Posted - 2014.03.12 15:31:00 - [65] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: Buster Friently wrote: Mad Syringe wrote: The only problem with this game and CCP is that they think it's OK to make promises without delivering anything similar to those promises anytime soon. This is called setting expectations, and it is something that CCP, in general, and the Dust team, in particular, are TERRIBLE at. You can't blame the community for expecting CCP to actually deliver what they promise. Honestly, they could use a rule as simple, for starters, as "don't talk up features that won't be ready until after the next fanfest - we'll talk about them at the nearest fanfest", but they don't. Thus, they continue to talk up everything, and deliver next to nothing and look incompetent in the meantime. Use the current stage of rage about patch notes and use that to judge what this place would be like if they didn't talk about future visions or things they want to push out. I didn't say "Don't talk about the future". I said, don't talk about distant things that the team will have further opportunities to discuss. The real problem is, if they only talked about what they would be able to deliver in the coming year, they'd have virtually nothing to talk about.
Buster Friently Rosen Association 2011	Posted - 2014.03.12 15:32:00 - [66] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: No progress? Things may be borked up with the weapons or what ever your current problems are but the game has gotten better and things have been added and some of those things were player ideas or came from feedback from the players. 5 minutes minimum just to log on. 5 minutes to load contacts just to make a squad. Resets every third game and 5 more minutes to log on. More suits More weapons More maps PC FW Corps ISK transfers Fitting glitches that needed resets that took 5 minutes to log on. Horribly crippling lag in every game mode. Horrible hit direction. The sounds are different but overall better. Bland but looks better. Better visual effects. Better UI Squad Finder Better leader boards Over all better performance Those are just the things I can think of and yes some are borked up and yes there are some vehicles or maps missing but overall we have made progress. To think otherwise is an appeal to tradition. You may not be happy with the progress or agree with what was released or how but you cannot honestly say that there has been no progress. As for CCP and their customer service, they do listen and do what they can to use our suggestions and feedback. CCP does reply to tickets and deal with them appropriately. Don't let frustration with how you think the game should be developed cloud what has happened and the progress we have made. Call me whatever you like but progress has been made and the progress made was player influenced feedback through the CPM and from CCP reading the forums. As an example, this amount of progress is about what POE, another free game (different genre) deliver in one patch, not fully a year's worth of development.
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 3097	Posted - 2014.03.12 15:36:00 - [67] - Quote They have a great idea and intent, but **** execution. It's like those products on infomercials; great idea, right price, made in China with second rate materials and no care for quality. I GÖú Kittens.
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 369	Posted - 2014.03.12 16:14:00 - [68] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: They have a great idea and intent, but **** execution. It's like those products on infomercials; great idea, right price, made in China with second rate materials and no care for quality. Its basicaly like buy of a chinese limo. It awesome, polished and great looking, but deadly dangerous and unsafe if you crash. Support - Tactician/Support Deteis - Orator BHD since MAG
Baal Roo Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 3035	Posted - 2014.03.12 23:00:00 - [69] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: No progress? Things may be borked up with the weapons or what ever your current problems are but the game has gotten better and things have been added and some of those things were player ideas or came from feedback from the players. Alright, let's break down this list: 5 minutes minimum just to log on. 5 minutes to load contacts just to make a squad. Resets every third game and 5 more minutes to log on. Basic minor bug fixes. More suits More weapons Glorified new skins with minor stat tweaks, no real impact on basic gameplay. More maps Well, that's a decent addition, I'll agree that all new maps are welcome even if we've gotten very few of them. PC So broken less than 2% of the player base plays in it. FW Just Instant Battle skirmishes with it's own queue. Corps This was added what, an entire year ago ISK transfers Touche Fitting glitches that needed resets that took 5 minutes to log on. Horribly crippling lag in every game mode. Horrible hit direction. More basic bug fixes. The sounds are different but overall better. Bland but looks better. Better visual effects. Better UI All minor updates with little to no impact on the gameplay. Squad Finder A solid improvement. Better leader boards Cosmetic, no effect on gameplay. Over all better performance Behind the scenes stuff, important but not the sort of thing that keeps player around and draws new players in. Quote: Those are just the things I can think of and yes some are borked up and yes there are some vehicles or maps missing but overall we have made progress. To think otherwise is an appeal to tradition. You may not be happy with the progress or agree with what was released or how but you cannot honestly say that there has been no progress. As for CCP and their customer service, they do listen and do what they can to use our suggestions and feedback. CCP does reply to tickets and deal with them appropriately. Don't let frustration with how you think the game should be developed cloud what has happened and the progress we have made. Call me whatever you like but progress has been made and the progress made was player influenced feedback through the CPM and from CCP reading the forums. If that's the best list you've got for what they've done over the last year, I don't see how you can't agree that they've made relatively little progress. It really is a pathetic list of improvements for a game that is as devoid of basic content as this.
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 1772	Posted - 2014.03.12 23:14:00 - [70] - Quote In life, and in game development, the quality of your journey is determined by the quality of your decisions - based on past experience with CCP in the development of DUST, that is the heart of what worries me. Still in for the duration. I support SP rollover.

Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 387	Posted - 2014.03.12 23:24:00 - [71] - Quote Its understandable how they are lost, its their first fps. They missleading info around like how massive it is and how stuff is awesome is different think. Overall after two years i think foundations of this game arent still solid. And thats mean, for myself, if foundation isnt stable and solid my stay is basicaly same. Its quite wierd because i never left game or thing about it before. Support - Tactician/Support Deteis - Orator BHD since MAG
Rusty Shallows 1088	Posted - 2014.03.12 23:46:00 - [72] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: They've got a lot of work to do. But, overall, they seem to be getting a little bit closer to the right path. Just a little bit. Agreed. Facing the right direction. Now if they could take two steps forward and one back instead of the opposite. There is nothing more frustrating than see someone themselves in the foot after being told the firearm is loaded. Here, have some candy and a Like. :-) Forums > Game
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 394	Posted - 2014.03.12 23:50:00 - [73] - Quote Rusty Shallows wrote: Patrick57 wrote: They've got a lot of work to do. But, overall, they seem to be getting a little bit closer to the right path. Just a little bit. Agreed. Facing the right direction. Now if they could take two steps forward and one back instead of the opposite. There is nothing more frustrating than see someone themselves in the foot after being told the firearm is loaded. Facing, but in my eyes we facng too long and CCP looking too long around for that proper direction. Support - Tactician/Support Deteis - Orator BHD since MAG
KayDidYue Mercenaries On Duty 42	Posted - 2014.03.13 00:00:00 - [74] - Quote Sam Tektzby wrote: Im just interested in one thing. How our community see the CCP globaly, their progress, achievments through DUST 514. And their care for customer. By my side of view i really admire their visionary work on concepts/ideas and their customer service. What i hate is no responce by devs, their secrecy and overal feel "like they don care"/"they are lost"/"they dont listen to us". You are kidding about the customer service right? They sometimes take forever, and generally they refer to their policy on most things, so you are out of anything that could be considered satisfactory in many areas. They don't want people to know any facts, even if directly asked, which means they can play with the numbers any way they want on a lot of stuff; in other words we are at their mercy. As far as their "visionary work on concepts/ideas" I do like the concept of what they told us in the beginning, but a lot of it is nowhere in sight. Their progress is slow, which is ok by me, as I would rather them get the bugs fixed before they add new stuff - which they don't really do, but I have come to except this. There achievements I would rate a B-, or maybe even as low as a C. The reason for this is that I purchase things, then they change them - be it ISK or AUR. Even though they have given refunds (on some things) when changes are done, I still think that the OP-ness of new things, then the nerfing of them can sometimes be frustrating; but again, I have to except it if I want to play the game, and I do like playing, even though there are many aspects that can be frustrating. The most positive part is that some of the options they have added make the game more enjoyable. I do have hope for them, and I do understand the problems that they can face - being a programmer myself. The community wants things too fast sometimes, and if they rush, it can create problems. My trigger is steady, my finger is ready. If I see some red, I'll shoot it dead. If it's revived, it won't survive.
Your Absolut End SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 412	Posted - 2014.03.13 00:03:00 - [75] - Quote Naviticus wrote: From a friends perspective on why he doesn't play as much anymore "Dust just isn't progressing at the scale I had hoped. Stagnant game-breaking issues that I used to joke about now just frustrate me because they've gone so long without being fixed. The issues that have been keeping me away: --"New" content-is often just bullshit copy-paste of previous content. (Example: Commando Suits -- which are just heavy suits with some values changed and a paint job... If CCP's style is going to be like that, then there should be TONS of new content rolling out constantly. It doesn't take more than a couple hours to paint a skin and change some numeric values in an excel spreadsheet, and it certainly doesn't constitute a "major update" --Dwindling playerbase/New player experience - I've attempted to recruit so many old BF players to Dust over the year or so I've been playing. The new player experience is absolute ** and none of my friends (read: Zero out of about fifteen) have stuck with it for more than a week or two. This is a microcosm for the entire Dust experience which leaves new players hanging out to dry after only one or two games in academy. No tutorial, no PVE and an extremely short academy = horrible New player experience & stagnating playerbase. --Bugs/** Coding - This is what happens when you outsource your coders. One of the best examples with a long history is the RDV code for vehicle deployments. I've been playing about a year and the vehicle deployment code has been re-written (or more likely, tweaked) dozens of times. Every time they get it wrong. Sometimes it gets a little bit better, sometimes it gets a little bit worse. The end result is that after a year of trying to fix something, they have been unable to do so. This, and other similar examples, make me incredibly apprehensive about investing time in this game in hope of a "long-term" plan. --Janky Gameplay & Other Games - For how simple Dust 514 is, it should run flawlessly on a PS3. Simple textures, box-shaped low-poly buildings, etc. This game should be soaring at 60+ FPS even with 16 on 16. Instead we see massive framerate issues, server lag spikes and a near necessity to equip your PS3 with a SSD to support the game. As an example, check out BF3 gameplay or Crysis gameplay - Both of these are much more visually impressive, yet run much smoother than Dust. I attribute this to a spider-web of bad code that may get you from Point A to Point B, but you're going to have to hit R,F,L,M and Q on your way there.... The reality is that without a ground-up rebuild with a better coding team and on a better engine, I don't see Dust competing with other options. Let's be honest, the Unreal engine is garbage." Pretty much this. Communication is somply nonexistant eventho it's one of CCPs biggest marketing factors. The time it takes to actually archieve something in this game is horrible. Biggest point why people stick around is the meta game which is pretty much just some chat rooms, but nobody wold stay for the actual game if it wasn't for the people and friends you can find within this game. It's alot of hyping and broken promises from what this game lives, and the biggest problem is the unused potential this game has. Alot of people hope for one day dust will be awesome, but lets keep it real, the day Dust fonally evolves to this wonderful butterfly, there will be countless other games which already did much bigger steps and evolved way further if you take in account at which pacemstuff evolves currently, (yay finally after 1 year of release we get all racial weapons and suits, might just take one more year till we see all racial vehicles ) Don't wanna be a bitter vet but CCP is just plain great at disappointing people and ignoring other game developers. It worked with Eve, but those were different times on a different platform, I'm really not sure where this is gonna go but it doesnt really feels like its going anywhere soon another one bites the Dust... Born as Kameira, die as Kameira, my life for the Empress!**
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 395	Posted - 2014.03.13 00:08:00 - [76] - Quote KayDidYue wrote: Sam Tektzby wrote: Im just interested in one thing. How our community see the CCP globaly, their progress, achievments through DUST 514. And their care for customer. By my side of view i really admire their visionary work on concepts/ideas and their customer service. What i hate is no responce by devs, their secrecy and overal feel "like they don care"/"they are lost"/"they dont listen to us". You are kidding about the customer service right? They sometimes take forever, and generally they refer to their policy on most things, so you are out of anything that could be considered satisfactory in many areas. They don't want people to know any facts, even if directly asked, which means they can play with the numbers any way they want on a lot of stuff; in other words we are at their mercy. As far as their "visionary work on concepts/ideas" I do like the concept of what they told us in the beginning, but a lot of it is nowhere in sight. Their progress is slow, which is ok by me, as I would rather them get the bugs fixed before they add new stuff - which they don't really do, but I have come to except this. There achievements I would rate a B-, or maybe even as low as a C. The reason for this is that I purchase things, then they change them - be it ISK or AUR. Even though they have given refunds (on some things) when changes are done, I still think that the OP-ness of new things, then the nerfing of them can sometimes be frustrating; but again, I have to except it if I want to play the game, and I do like playing, even though there are many aspects that can be frustrating. Nope i mean it. I never had problem with GM scotsman and his team. They help me everytime and it never takes longer than week. Concetp on beginig was awesome, after years we are flater and flater. Boyo how i loved that canyons before, towers, haking animation all that. Sadly they start doingi it another way. But thats about the execution. Not about concept or vision. Support - Tactician/Support Deteis - Orator BHD since MAG
Leanna Boghin Ametat Security Amarr Empire 24	Posted - 2014.03.13 00:08:00 - [77] - Quote I can agree with what OP said however their customer service is crap their unwillingness to listen to their player base is beyond disgusting. And their over all ability to maintain and keep balanced game play seems at this point absolutely impossible. In short im surprised CCP is still in business and im wondering if this is how they run Eve Online. If so then there are more suckers in the world than i originally thought
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 395	Posted - 2014.03.13 00:10:00 - [78] - Quote Leanna Boghin wrote: I can agree with what OP said however their customer service is crap their unwillingness to listen to their player base is beyond disgusting. And their over all ability to maintain and keep balanced game play seems at this point absolutely impossible. In short im surprised CCP is still in business and im wondering if this is how they run Eve Online. If so then there are more suckers in the world than i originally thought I talking about people on phone, if you have issues. Not their listening to player base, where i can agree its terible. Support - Tactician/Support Deteis - Orator BHD since MAG
lrian Locust Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 369	Posted - 2014.03.13 13:13:00 - [79] - Quote Free Beers wrote: lrian Locust wrote: Finally, I fail to see reason in some of the events. They tend to reward protostomping, as if it isn't bad enough. Some people here say it's to quickly gain data, but data gained under different circumstances will be pretty useless. You miss understand CCP cmdrwang the dev that doesn't have to listen to us (his words) is in charge of events in dust. His only charge is to get people to log in and nothing more. there is very little ccp can offer in regards to rewards in dust and this is of their own doing. More win for ccp I disagree. If players get frustrated from being protostomped, or tired of the grind, they'll leave the event. Chances are they'll stop playing Dust, or show less interest in following events. That's a loss. Not just for CCP, but for all players. CCP should focus on events being fun and original. Judging by the excitement, the next event has hit the mark.
lrian Locust Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 369	Posted - 2014.03.13 13:24:00 - [80] - Quote Altina McAlterson wrote: lrian Locust wrote: I just think it's strange that CCP can't or won't fix minor details that cause big problems (such as the recent tank speed fix). Such simple changes (10% vs 100% speed increase) should be ninja-nerfed immediately. CCP has to pay Sony to release hotfixes/patches over PSN. There was talks of a special deal with Sony due to DUST's unique development cycle but I'm not sure of the result. CCP tends to go a little overboard anyway as they have frequently done in EVE and having to pay Sony just makes it worse. That's a shame and bad policy from Sony. There shouldn't be any barrier for a content provider to update their games. Games and gamers will suffer for it. Sony probably doesn't care - if someone gets frustrated with one game, they'll buy another. More money for Sony.

Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 414	Posted - 2014.03.13 15:06:00 - [81] - Quote lrian Locust wrote: Altina McAlterson wrote: lrian Locust wrote: I just think it's strange that CCP can't or won't fix minor details that cause big problems (such as the recent tank speed fix). Such simple changes (10% vs 100% speed increase) should be ninja-nerfed immediately. CCP has to pay Sony to release hotfixes/patches over PSN. There was talks of a special deal with Sony due to DUST's unique development cycle but I'm not sure of the result. CCP tends to go a little overboard anyway as they have frequently done in EVE and having to pay Sony just makes it worse. That's a shame and bad policy from Sony. There shouldn't be any barrier for a content provider to update their games. Games and gamers will suffer for it. Sony probably doesn't care - if someone gets frustrated with one game, they'll buy another. More money for Sony. Sorry, i dont buying this. Its really wierd to pay for patch release, even the sony before told, the moneytisation and support on F2P games will be only on devs. This is too wierd like busyness policy. Support - Tactician/Support Deteis - Orator BHD since MAG
Naviticus OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 74	Posted - 2014.03.13 17:46:00 - [82] - Quote even if thats the case where they would have to pay sony for the hotfix... Just think of all the aurum purchases that have ceased because we dont know where this game will head(me for one stop purchasing boosters) and all the potential revenue from new people starting this game and quitting because of game breaking glitches, bugs, weapons
DootDoot Da Short Buss 243	Posted - 2014.03.13 18:00:00 - [83] - Quote Naviticus wrote: even if thats the case where they would have to pay sony for the hotfix... Just think of all the aurum purchases that have ceased because we dont know where this game will head(me for one stop purchasing boosters) and all the potential revenue from new people starting this game and quitting because of game breaking glitches, bugs, weapons I have disposable income... Even some 50 dollar PSN cards sitting right here beside me... If this was Chromosome? or before the Terrible Aim Assist and Matchmaking patch of 1.4? i would spend those on DUST without a second thought.. looking to support the product. After the lazy patch of 1.4 with absolute TERRIBLE matchmaking and TERRIBLE AA bandaid that ruined so much of what made DUST enjoyable from the moment to moment.. I just would rather hold onto my dollars as protest... It's sad, I bought boosters full time until 1.4 came around... then the last time i did was the Omega booster October sale... and after 1.5 i lost complete faith and won't put a dollar into the game until they address the Core mechanic issues. Horrific Frame rate drops and dips. No consistency in Frame rate what so ever. Horrific matchmaking process. Horrific Hit detection. Horrific Server/client updating... Horrific Collision Mechanics.. Getting stuck on terrain 2 years later... still?... seriously? Horrific map creation... The maps in DUST are bad. Roads dead end out of no where... Ladders lead to nowhere important.. No multi level playability without a dropship.. No spots for snipers.. No separation of mechanized and infantry based units.. Maps start with a clear side having an advantage over another tactically and in proximity to objectives. Almost no multi role playability considered what so ever in map creation... Nonsensical Interactive Structure placement all over the map( A turret with a clear view of a dirt mound? really?) Physics that most developers would sneer at... That's a pretty long list of massive core fundamental things to running a FPS game... And DUST has big issues with them all and not the talent or resources it seems to address it.
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 414	Posted - 2014.03.13 18:03:00 - [84] - Quote Naviticus wrote: even if thats the case where they would have to pay sony for the hotfix... Just think of all the aurum purchases that have ceased because we dont know where this game will head(me for one stop purchasing boosters) and all the potential revenue from new people starting this game and quitting because of game breaking glitches, bugs, weapons Thats basicaly my story. On game i normaly put 80 eur (release + season pass), but here i just dont want put any money. Reason is there is not proper progress with one good implement there is such bunch of setbacks. I basicaly dont want spent money on something what is still betta 2.0, nothing less or more. And i dont agree with aur in game what is not unfinished and is in still neverending "taking the shape" fight. Support - Tactician/Support Deteis - Orator BHD since MAG
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 414	Posted - 2014.03.13 18:10:00 - [85] - Quote DootDoot wrote: Naviticus wrote: even if thats the case where they would have to pay sony for the hotfix... Just think of all the aurum purchases that have ceased because we dont know where this game will head(me for one stop purchasing boosters) and all the potential revenue from new people starting this game and quitting because of game breaking glitches, bugs, weapons I have disposable income... Even some 50 dollar PSN cards sitting here... If this was Chromosome? or before the Terrible Aim Assist and Matchmaking patch of 1.4? i would spend those on DUST without a second thought.. looking to support the product. After the lazy patch of 1.4 with absolute TERRIBLE matchmaking and TERRIBLE AA bandaid that ruined so much of what made DUST enjoyable from the moment to moment.. I just would rather hold onto my dollars as protest... It's sad, I bought boosters full time until 1.4 came around... then the last time i did was the Omega booster October sale... and after 1.5 i lost complete faith and won't put a dollar into the game until they address the Core mechanic issues. Horrific Frame rate drops and dips. No consistency in Frame rate what so ever. Horrific matchmaking process. Horrific Hit detection. Horrific Server/client updating... Horrific Collision Mechanics.. Getting stuck on terrain 2 years later... still?... seriously? Horrific map creation... The maps in DUST are bad. Roads dead end out of no where... Ladders lead to nowhere important.. No multi level playability without a dropship.. No spots for snipers.. No separation of mechanized and infantry based units.. Maps start with a clear side having an advantage over another tactically and in proximity to objectives. Almost no multi role playability considered what so ever in map creation... Physics that most developers would sneer at... That's a pretty long list of massive core fundamental things to running a FPS game... And DUST has big issues with them all and not the talent or resources it seems to address it. Here i agree. Flatness of maps is ridiclous. Its like they make a map directly for vehicles. After they implement some assets/buildings. And after they put ladders and platforms on that buildings. What is sometimes quite funny, because that ladder to nowhere and dead endsare quite ridiclous. Hit detection, yup thats big problem "Soil-catch" glitches and invisible wall on same places for many many mounths. These all glitches, bug etc. How i told before, still just beta. Support - Tactician/Support Deteis - Orator BHD since MAG
Draco Cerberus BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 829	Posted - 2014.03.14 00:17:00 - [86] - Quote Naviticus wrote: From a friends perspective on why he doesn't play as much anymore "Dust just isn't progressing at the scale I had hoped. Stagnant game-breaking issues that I used to joke about now just frustrate me because they've gone so long without being fixed. The issues that have been keeping me away: --"New" content-is often just bullshit copy-paste of previous content. (Example: Commando Suits -- which are just heavy suits with some values changed and a paint job... If CCP's style is going to be like that, then there should be TONS of new content rolling out constantly. It doesn't take more than a couple hours to paint a skin and change some numeric values in an excel spreadsheet, and it certainly doesn't constitute a "major update" --Dwindling playerbase/New player experience - I've attempted to recruit so many old BF players to Dust over the year or so I've been playing. The new player experience is absolute ** and none of my friends (read: Zero out of about fifteen) have stuck with it for more than a week or two. This is a microcosm for the entire Dust experience which leaves new players hanging out to dry after only one or two games in academy. No tutorial, no PVE and an extremely short academy = horrible New player experience & stagnating playerbase. --Bugs/**** Coding - This is what happens when you outsource your coders. One of the best examples with a long history is the RDV code for vehicle deployments. I've been playing about a year and the vehicle deployment code has been re-written (or more likely, tweaked) dozens of times. Every time they get it wrong. Sometimes it gets a little bit better, sometimes it gets a little bit worse. The end result is that after a year of trying to fix something, they have been unable to do so. This, and other similar examples, make me incredibly apprehensive about investing time in this game in hope of a "long-term" plan. --Janky Gameplay & Other Games - For how simple Dust 514 is, it should run flawlessly on a PS3. Simple textures, box-shaped low-poly buildings, etc. This game should be soaring at 60+ FPS even with 16 on 16. Instead we see massive framerate issues, server lag spikes and a near necessity to equip your PS3 with a SSD to support the game. As an example, check out BF3 gameplay or Crysis gameplay - Both of these are much more visually impressive, yet run much smoother than Dust. I attribute this to a spider-web of bad code that may get you from Point A to Point B, but you're going to have to hit R,F,L,M and Q on your way there.... The reality is that without a ground-up rebuild with a better coding team and on a better engine, I don't see Dust competing with other options. Let's be honest, the Unreal engine is garbage." I completely agree. The latest Eve patch clearly crippled Dust, leaving players frustrated for days. Clearly there are issues. Time for a rewrite....maybe into open world gameplay to help it fit and make sense in the New Eden universe. How can a closed world game fit into an open world universe? It makes no sense and everyone suffers for it, from New Players to Vets, looking to have fun but only finding grind grind grind. LogiGod earns his pips


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