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Glass Zeraki
The Phoenix Federation Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.03.09 00:16:00 -
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Listen up CCP.
I've been playing Dust for...idk 9 months or so. During this time, I've used 1 (one) kind of suit: the Gallente Assault suit. As long as I've been playing, I've used the Assault Rifle at least 90% of the time. Zero (0) SP into vehicles.
Now, as you can imagine, I've had good and bad experiences using that fit for so long. Especially through each FOTM.
I went through the deathstorm that is being new in Dust. I went through the OP Flaylock days. I went through watching Slayer Logi's beat me at my own role. Been through the "balanced" weapons like the ScR having the same DPS as me and more range. I'm currently fighting through the 3 month tankspam that is 1.7....and I've been proto-stomped so many times I've lost count.
And through it all, I've never changed fits. And I could count the number of times I've used proto in a pub match on my hands. No, I've used STD gear most of the time. If it's a tough match I'll use ADV. Never used the FOTM. I have a number of reasons for this, can't mention them all but:
One, because I want Dust to succeed, and stomping new players through the ground makes them leave and most don't come back. That's a problem for a game like Dust, believe it or not. Two, because using FOTM doesn't make you a good player. You're just using 'Easy Mode'. I want to win without using easy mode. And I've done it several times. However I have to fight hard to beat them, and I'm often left with defeat. I've kept myself going by telling myself CCP would eventually fix the problems and I would be able to say I never used Proto or FOTM.
But CCP hasn't fixed it. They continue to change things in a way that makes one thing better than another. After reading the recent dev blog on 1.8, I have come to a decision. I will no longer use my Gallente Assault suit or any light weapon, whether we get a respec or not.
I will be going FOTM Gallente Heavy. I'll be going FOTM in general. I'm going to find whatever method is OP and spam the f*** out of it. LAV Heavy? I'll spam it. Why? Because trying to preserve this game's player base isn't working, and I'm tired of losing. So I'm going to join the ranks of the FOTM and Proto users trying to destroy it. I also say if there's a way around the PC locking 'fix' coming next week, then keep them all locked and farm ISK. Maybe when CCP see's their game crumbling they'll actually DO something.
So, in closing, it's not our fault that CCP (CCP Shanghai specifically) doesn't know how to balance this game. We shouldn't punish ourselves for their mistakes.
Come Uprising 1.8, if you're not a Heavy and you're within 20 meters of me....god help you.
Sub-Director of The Phoenix Federation. Shut up or I'll mute you.
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Zombie Hammer
ISK Monsters
0
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Posted - 2014.03.09 00:20:00 -
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Derrith Erador
Kameira Lodge
1220
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Posted - 2014.03.09 00:22:00 -
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I've been an Amarrican assault for as long as I can remember. I've also been an ADS pilot for as long as I can remember, but I honestly my Eryx. I just recently went into fat boi, but way before the hot fix for HMG, and after the forge spread nerf. I still rock it with my gear. I also drop the bass.
beatin' slaves and whippin' knaves All in a days work for an Amarrican!
Now a level 1 forum warrior.
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SILVERBACK 02
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
520
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Posted - 2014.03.09 00:22:00 -
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you wernt there at CALDARI PRIME.... the things iv seen you cant even begin to imagine.
level 0 forum warrior
weapon of choice:
MARK V PYTHON.
-STB sky marshall
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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
963
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Posted - 2014.03.09 00:23:00 -
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lol, nice post
'D1CK by name'
'D1CK by nature'
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Kira Lannister
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
2339
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Posted - 2014.03.09 00:44:00 -
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So your saying you want to try new things? More effective things?
Tell me moar.
"The Ancient Templars will guard fearlessly the people, the land and the heavens of the empire."
Book of Exiles 1:3
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Glass Zeraki
The Phoenix Federation Proficiency V.
24
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Posted - 2014.03.09 01:35:00 -
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Kira Lannister wrote: So your saying you want to try new things? More effective things?
Tell me moar.
I'm telling CCP that I'm going to try and destroy their playerbase by being over powered to newberries.
Sub-Director of The Phoenix Federation. Shut up or I'll mute you.
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Platinum Raptor
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.03.09 02:17:00 -
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Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
866
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Posted - 2014.03.09 02:56:00 -
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I can't believe you've stick with one build for that long. I couldn't do it, not because of KDR or chasing the FotB, but because the only variety Dust provides is that which you make for itself. So I just gotta run different things, even if I'm not skilled into them. I love that Dren stuff!
Good on ya for caring about NPE and health of the game, I do too, but I also think its pretty much out of your hands. Play what you think is fun and you'll be happier than chasing the OP fit probably.
Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
1998
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Posted - 2014.03.09 03:00:00 -
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lol you bad.
Everyone knows FoTM is light weapon Gal heavies.
Assault ak.0 w/ScR+ScP 4LYFE
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Awry Barux
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
1536
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Posted - 2014.03.09 03:14:00 -
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Zahle Undt wrote:I can't believe you've stick with one build for that long. I couldn't do it, not because of KDR or chasing the FotB, but because the only variety Dust provides is that which you make for itself. So I just gotta run different things, even if I'm not skilled into them. I love that Dren stuff!
Good on ya for caring about NPE and health of the game, I do too, but I also think its pretty much out of your hands. Play what you think is fun and you'll be happier than chasing the OP fit probably.
Yup. Nothing breaks up the boredom like pure BPO shotgun scouting, or 90% BPO HMG heavy.
Respec in 1.8 due to huge battlefield role shift for MinLogi!
All my posts are respec posts (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ LockmeBro!
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deepfried salad gilliam
Sanguine Knights
482
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Posted - 2014.03.09 03:16:00 -
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nope the new fotm is gonna be mimnatar assault with complex sidearm dmg mods and 2 flaylocks
Proud Christian
Free stuff for the next account you make:)
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Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn
3377
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Posted - 2014.03.09 03:46:00 -
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Been here since last year, March. I'm still rolling with Dust. It's come a long way. We got new dropsuits coming kid, what? New Cal SMGs?
Oh and its always good to have two classes you're skilled into. Plus skilled into some extra "perks" for battlefield changes.
Yea, let me see a CalSen...March is going to be interesting indeed
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Are you OUKH?
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
4994
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Posted - 2014.03.09 04:17:00 -
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I'm right here with you brother. I've been using the Gallente Assault since the last infantry respec one year ago.
I've been through it all and I've just had enough being killed by FoTM scrubs.
I'm going Gallente Heavy and Minmitar HMG.
+1 My fellow dispelled Gallente Brother.
1st Official Role Playing Gallente Asshole -Title Awarded by True Adamance
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calvin b
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
1608
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Posted - 2014.03.09 04:31:00 -
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Glass Zeraki wrote:Listen up CCP.
I've been playing Dust for...idk 9 months or so. During this time, I've used 1 (one) kind of suit: the Gallente Assault suit. As long as I've been playing, I've used the Assault Rifle at least 90% of the time. Zero (0) SP into vehicles.
Now, as you can imagine, I've had good and bad experiences using that fit for so long. Especially through each FOTM.
I went through the deathstorm that is being new in Dust. I went through the OP Flaylock days. I went through watching Slayer Logi's beat me at my own role. Been through the "balanced" weapons like the ScR having the same DPS as me and more range. I'm currently fighting through the 3 month tankspam that is 1.7....and I've been proto-stomped so many times I've lost count.
And through it all, I've never changed fits. And I could count the number of times I've used proto in a pub match on my hands. No, I've used STD gear most of the time. If it's a tough match I'll use ADV. Never used the FOTM. I have a number of reasons for this, can't mention them all but:
One, because I want Dust to succeed, and stomping new players through the ground makes them leave and most don't come back. That's a problem for a game like Dust, believe it or not. Two, because using FOTM doesn't make you a good player. You're just using 'Easy Mode'. I want to win without using easy mode. And I've done it several times. However I have to fight hard to beat them, and I'm often left with defeat. I've kept myself going by telling myself CCP would eventually fix the problems and I would be able to say I never used Proto or FOTM.
But CCP hasn't fixed it. They continue to change things in a way that makes one thing better than another. After reading the recent dev blog on 1.8, I have come to a decision. I will no longer use my Gallente Assault suit or any light weapon, whether we get a respec or not.
I will be going FOTM Gallente Heavy. I'll be going FOTM in general. I'm going to find whatever method is OP and spam the f*** out of it. LAV Heavy? I'll spam it. Why? Because trying to preserve this game's player base isn't working, and I'm tired of losing. So I'm going to join the ranks of the FOTM and Proto users trying to destroy it. I also say if there's a way around the PC locking 'fix' coming next week, then keep them all locked and farm ISK. Maybe when CCP see's their game crumbling they'll actually DO something.
So, in closing, it's not our fault that CCP (CCP Shanghai specifically) doesn't know how to balance this game. We shouldn't punish ourselves for their mistakes.
Come Uprising 1.8, if you're not a Heavy and you're within 20 meters of me....god help you.
Laughed so hard, TY. I understand your frustration and on the other hand I do not. I player multiple roles but I use heavy mainly as of last 4 months. I have been using the LAV heavy tactic for a long time. I cant run long or far I have to have some means to get across large areas of open land. When I am given the option of straight up fighting I will go toe to toe instead of hit and run with an LAV. I agree the player base is daunting but we must preserver we must keep playing and hope a community comes from these forums and that does not speak of nerfs or FOTM but how can we make the game better today. We keep punching each other in the eye and blaming each other for the problems when they do not lie in our hands but in the Devs. They write the code, it is up to you as a player to push those boundaries, we ask for it to be fixed not OP or UP or any other alphabet BS you want to add. It is our job to push the limits and if something is wrong we calmly tell the DEVS not ask for a nerf or a shot of go F****** nuts mode. After we voiced our thoughts, others would maturely answer the question and off of those replies the Devs can judge what needs to be fixed and what doesn't, but instead here were are like a bunch of savages tearing one apart due to a few different ideas.
A heavy before 1.8
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Tectonic Fusion
1230
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Posted - 2014.03.09 04:48:00 -
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lol
Solo Player
Squad status: Locked
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Mac Dac
Wraith Shadow Guards D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
481
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Posted - 2014.03.09 05:19:00 -
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i feel ya OP.
honer is stomped by cheap easily exploitable tactics. So much that i don't even think people won't a challenge or even a fun fight anymore, which scares me about the future of this game honestly. will the community push for a game that gives you more for winning or a game that is fun and enjoyable? will CCP ever deliver this game to the promise land we were promised so long ago or will Dust 514 become a hollowed out reminder of wasted potential? These are the questions that scream through my head every time i play Dust.
"We should take care not to make intellect our god; it has, of course, strong muscles, but no personality" Albert Einste
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HYENAKILLER X
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
657
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Posted - 2014.03.09 05:28:00 -
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Glass Zeraki wrote:Listen up CCP.
I've been playing Dust for...idk 9 months or so. During this time, I've used 1 (one) kind of suit: the Gallente Assault suit. As long as I've been playing, I've used the Assault Rifle at least 90% of the time. Zero (0) SP into vehicles.
Now, as you can imagine, I've had good and bad experiences using that fit for so long. Especially through each FOTM.
I went through the deathstorm that is being new in Dust. I went through the OP Flaylock days. I went through watching Slayer Logi's beat me at my own role. Been through the "balanced" weapons like the ScR having the same DPS as me and more range. I'm currently fighting through the 3 month tankspam that is 1.7....and I've been proto-stomped so many times I've lost count.
And through it all, I've never changed fits. And I could count the number of times I've used proto in a pub match on my hands. No, I've used STD gear most of the time. If it's a tough match I'll use ADV. Never used the FOTM. I have a number of reasons for this, can't mention them all but:
One, because I want Dust to succeed, and stomping new players through the ground makes them leave and most don't come back. That's a problem for a game like Dust, believe it or not. Two, because using FOTM doesn't make you a good player. You're just using 'Easy Mode'. I want to win without using easy mode. And I've done it several times. However I have to fight hard to beat them, and I'm often left with defeat. I've kept myself going by telling myself CCP would eventually fix the problems and I would be able to say I never used Proto or FOTM.
But CCP hasn't fixed it. They continue to change things in a way that makes one thing better than another. After reading the recent dev blog on 1.8, I have come to a decision. I will no longer use my Gallente Assault suit or any light weapon, whether we get a respec or not.
I will be going FOTM Gallente Heavy. I'll be going FOTM in general. I'm going to find whatever method is OP and spam the f*** out of it. LAV Heavy? I'll spam it. Why? Because trying to preserve this game's player base isn't working, and I'm tired of losing. So I'm going to join the ranks of the FOTM and Proto users trying to destroy it. I also say if there's a way around the PC locking 'fix' coming next week, then keep them all locked and farm ISK. Maybe when CCP see's their game crumbling they'll actually DO something.
So, in closing, it's not our fault that CCP (CCP Shanghai specifically) doesn't know how to balance this game. We shouldn't punish ourselves for their mistakes.
Come Uprising 1.8, if you're not a Heavy and you're within 20 meters of me....god help you. You wont go fotm. Im gal assault and already had basic proto before unlocking proto gal logi. I cant even use it. Its not my style to fight with 900 armor. If we get respecs im switching to gal proto assault because thats my true spot.
Stay true. Trust me. Lighten up on proto though. Get murderous dude. Punish these people.
Im not from new eden. I dont need back up, political power or support. I, unlike you dont fear nuetral territory.
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Xyl5
Raging Pack of Homosapiens
20
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Posted - 2014.03.09 05:29:00 -
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8/10 needs more fotm |
Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
1540
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Posted - 2014.03.09 05:32:00 -
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Try scout?
Stealth > Health |
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Glass Zeraki
The Phoenix Federation
27
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Posted - 2014.03.09 05:51:00 -
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Xyl5 wrote:8/10 needs more fotm
Lmao +1
Sub-Director of The Phoenix Federation. Shut up or I'll mute you.
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Reign Omega
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
164
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Posted - 2014.03.09 05:56:00 -
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Dat gallente passive reps and bonus to hip fire tho? May be a bad time to leave just sayin.... |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
2077
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Posted - 2014.03.09 06:09:00 -
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good honor just holds you back |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
4942
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Posted - 2014.03.09 06:58:00 -
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You became a bittervet ALOT faster then I did, took uprising 1.4 to do that. ^_^
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 4
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Proto Annihilator
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
30
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Posted - 2014.03.09 07:14:00 -
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Glass Zeraki wrote:Listen up CCP.
I've been playing Dust for...idk 9 months or so. During this time, I've used 1 (one) kind of suit: the Gallente Assault suit. As long as I've been playing, I've used the Assault Rifle at least 90% of the time. Zero (0) SP into vehicles.
Now, as you can imagine, I've had good and bad experiences using that fit for so long. Especially through each FOTM.
I went through the deathstorm that is being new in Dust. I went through the OP Flaylock days. I went through watching Slayer Logi's beat me at my own role. Been through the "balanced" weapons like the ScR having the same DPS as me and more range. I'm currently fighting through the 3 month tankspam that is 1.7....and I've been proto-stomped so many times I've lost count.
And through it all, I've never changed fits. And I could count the number of times I've used proto in a pub match on my hands. No, I've used STD gear most of the time. If it's a tough match I'll use ADV. Never used the FOTM. I have a number of reasons for this, can't mention them all but:
One, because I want Dust to succeed, and stomping new players through the ground makes them leave and most don't come back. That's a problem for a game like Dust, believe it or not. Two, because using FOTM doesn't make you a good player. You're just using 'Easy Mode'. I want to win without using easy mode. And I've done it several times. However I have to fight hard to beat them, and I'm often left with defeat. I've kept myself going by telling myself CCP would eventually fix the problems and I would be able to say I never used Proto or FOTM.
But CCP hasn't fixed it. They continue to change things in a way that makes one thing better than another. After reading the recent dev blog on 1.8, I have come to a decision. I will no longer use my Gallente Assault suit or any light weapon, whether we get a respec or not.
I will be going FOTM Gallente Heavy. I'll be going FOTM in general. I'm going to find whatever method is OP and spam the f*** out of it. LAV Heavy? I'll spam it. Why? Because trying to preserve this game's player base isn't working, and I'm tired of losing. So I'm going to join the ranks of the FOTM and Proto users trying to destroy it. I also say if there's a way around the PC locking 'fix' coming next week, then keep them all locked and farm ISK. Maybe when CCP see's their game crumbling they'll actually DO something.
So, in closing, it's not our fault that CCP (CCP Shanghai specifically) doesn't know how to balance this game. We shouldn't punish ourselves for their mistakes.
Come Uprising 1.8, if you're not a Heavy and you're within 20 meters of me....god help you.
Why would they want a balanced game? Do you honestly think the Nerf/Buff circus is about balance. They could tweak weapons daily until its roughly even.
Hot fixes. After 1.7 I had to use two complex damage mods on a dau to two shot turrets. Sometime in the first week they changed the damage so it became undoable. I had to up my fit to an IAFG.
If they can adjust damage independent of patches why would the RR have to wait until 1.8 to get a Nerf? It looks like they want some things OP and some UP. |
Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
5003
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Posted - 2014.03.09 07:16:00 -
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Reign Omega wrote:Dat gallente passive reps and bonus to hip fire tho? May be a bad time to leave just sayin.... loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
1st Official Role Playing Gallente Asshole -Title Awarded by True Adamance
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J4yne C0bb
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
252
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Posted - 2014.03.09 09:15:00 -
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Glass Zeraki wrote:I'll be going FOTM in general. I'm going to find whatever method is OP and spam the f*** out of it. LAV Heavy? I'll spam it. Why? Because trying to preserve this game's player base isn't working, and I'm tired of losing. So I'm going to join the ranks of the FOTM and Proto users trying to destroy it. I also say if there's a way around the PC locking 'fix' coming next week, then keep them all locked and farm ISK. Maybe when CCP see's their game crumbling they'll actually DO something.
It's funny you bring this up, because I've been thinking the exact same thing lately. I would like a more balanced game and a larger playerbase, and play mostly in advanced fits, hoping to make it easier for mercs just starting out. have enjoyed being a constructive member of the Dust community, but I've been doing this for about a year now... and I'm beginning to think it's useless. Player retention has become a really important issue, and the NPE is grueling, and I don't feel like a lot is being done about it. You know I would give my left nut for meta-level capped matches? I would kill for a militia-only gear mode, or infantry- only Ambush.
So instead of trying to be constructive, I've been thinking: I got a 100 mil after we came out of beta last year, and I've mostly just sat on it. What if I began blowing all of it to run proto gear only from here on out, and do my best to stomp the everloving **** out of any noob that comes my way? And I mean really make this game un****ingplayable for new players, like ragequit the first match out of Academy bad, never to return.
I mean, constructive feedback is good, but maybe trying to break the game is better? If we all help show CCP how bad bittervets can make it for new players -- if we intentionally become the worst f'ing people ever (in terms of our online personas) -- maybe something will finally give?
Many of us have tried to give constructive feedback for a long time now, toughing it out in STD/ADV fits. Maybe it's time to start giving destructive feedback, and make this game as miserable as possible for everybody. Go FOTM or GTFO.
Min Logi | aka Punch R0ckgroin, Fatsuit
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
7261
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Posted - 2014.03.09 09:18:00 -
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Holy balls, this guy is like my mirror image!
I've been using the Gallente Assault with Assault rifle, been using it through the thick of it, from armor being underpowered, to the flaylock, to the logis, everything.
And now in 1.8, I'm ditching the Gallente Assault and AR, I will be using whatever is the best at the time, because I'm sick and tired of waiting for CCP to fix ****.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
DUST514514
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance
7261
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Posted - 2014.03.09 09:23:00 -
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Reign Omega wrote:Dat gallente passive reps and bonus to hip fire tho? May be a bad time to leave just sayin.... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA *Breathes* HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
You're joking right? You expect for 2hp/s to keep me using the suit?
Oh and that hip fire bonus? I can just switch to any other rifle, and I can get it for free, in addition to it being better in general, AND getting another bonus!
Amarr - Makes their death machine called the SCR shoot longer, making it absurd Minmatar - The only downside of the CR is that the clip get empty pretty quickly (Though it has a fast reload). Not anymore. Caldari - The RR still has excellent hip fire built in, even if the bonus isn't great.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
DUST514514
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Stefan Stahl
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
450
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Posted - 2014.03.09 11:32:00 -
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Zahle Undt wrote:I can't believe you've stick with one build for that long. I couldn't do it, not because of KDR or chasing the FotB, but because the only variety Dust provides is that which you make for itself. So I just gotta run different things, even if I'm not skilled into them. I love that Dren stuff! I wouldn't still be playing if I didn't have an advanced heavy suit, an advanced scout, three advanced assaults and an advanced logi-setup.
Seriously, I can't even stick with one playstyle for more than two matches. I can't imagine doing it for 9 months. When I see an HAV it needs forging, when I see people low on health they need repair, when the enemy is in an open area I need my RR-Caldari-Assault, when the fight is inside a large outpost I need my AR-Scout. Etc. etc.
Well, respect to the OP for the perseverance, but in your position I wouldn't fret about it. After a certain point diversity is a good thing. |
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