I'm against the idea of our in game HAV being designed to **** up infantry..... as we often see a large blaster does unbalance gameplay hugely...however I wouldn't be against us having High Explosive rounds to eff up infantry providing it requires us to skill shot them.

Seriously fuckface. Nobody but you agrees with you. Go away.

I understand but I feel we can achieve a more balanced Anti infantry role without requiring a turret that spits our anti vehicle level projectiles froma 205 capacity magazine at a tremendous rate of fire.

A weapon that more closely resembles a modern tank turret could suffice. There are a number of ways to alter the Blaster to make it more balanced from

- Taking the Battelfield approach, and direct fire cannon with coaxial machinegun
- PS2 where I believe they have fast firing explosives turrets
- Or follow the EVE side model where blasters requiring a cycling time

I agree that in terms of infantry vs Tank combat Tanks are resistant to small arms fire....but is not a tanks primary designation the delivery of large ordinance against a specific entrenched postion or enemy vehicle? I'm not going to deny Tanks have strong anti personell capacity but that is normally in the hands of secondary crew men.

A Swarm Launcher is no longer capable of turning a corner.

Swarm Launchers require the following:

• Timing
• Positioning
• Situational Awareness
• "Gun Game" (Unless you want to be insta-killed by a rifle user)
• Ability to predict flight / movement path of vehicles

80GJ Blasters however, are hit-scan weapons, and simply pressing R1 while the reticule is red guarantees that you will get a hit. Couple that with the fact that Hardners and Armor Repairers remove the need for almost all situational awareness, and you've got yourself a plentiful helping of EZ-Mode.

In Uprising 1.7, Swarm Launchers literally require more skill than using an HAV.

inb4 You going on a baseless tangent about how Swarm Launchers are actually EZ-Mode and how HAVs are the most talent intensive thing in DUST 514

To Takahiro:

Seriously. You need to understand that HAVs will be nerfed, regardless of how much you say they shouldn't be. Your best course of action would to be negotiating a nerf, and how strong that nerf should be, instead of fervently fighting against a nerf. I can tell you right now that the more you try to convince that HAVs are balanced, they less they will believe you. You need to try and strike a middle ground, rather than doing what you are doing.

Nope. You can insta-lock and fire all 3 volleys, but that doesn't guarrantee a hit. Swarms have this nice feature called travel time that requires you to release at the right moment, or watch as all your Swarms miss.

Doesn't make much of a difference.

Yes, you need gun-game. Unless of course you'd like to be destroyed by people who have weapons with 3x your range while you have the AI ability of a Light Frame.

Perhaps you shouldn't expose your weakspot? Please refrain from using your lack of competence in a discussion. It really makes you look bad.

To who? People also said 1.6 AV was working as intended, and yet you didn't agree with that. Not really sure what makes you think that statement would hold merit. Such laughable amounts of hypocrisy.

Not really sure why someone who uses a hitscan weapon is talking about a lack of skill. Hypocrite much?