I don't think there should be a starter fit with a Nanite Injector. I hate to further screw over the noobs' learning, but I need to know someone who knows what they're doing is nearby. It's the same point, my time is being wasted.

In Planetside 2, you can accept or decline a revive. I like this, because I decline when I know I'm going to get shot down immediately. I care about my KDR, and reviving me just to get us both killed is messing that up.

Aside from KDR or showing that you had a less death filled round, what is the reason behind having revives not counting towards someone's death? If it didn't count, you would have the enemies kills not correspond at all with your team's deaths and vice versa. A Clone isn't already used so aside from KDR/ego bumping, is there a need to not have a death count if you are revived? Simply put, the player did die.

I do certainly think that you need to be able to decline needles or have your call for help activate the ability to be brought up. I understand the frustration of dying, trying to find the best uplink location and being revived by some blueberry who must have braved through a line of enemy fire to revive you only to have both of you die miserably. Perhaps the system should be changed that once you leave the death screen of who killed you with what and are at the spawn location, you should be dead and gone rather than when you are spawning.

Deaths are simply statistics. If you are downed and revived, where you not already downed? Yes, you didn't lose a Clone and you could throw out minor semantics on what is considered death, but it doesn't change the fact that the player was downed/killed. No, the Clone/Character isn't killed but the amount of kills and deaths is a statistic that is meant as part of the game for the Players. I, at least for now, don't see a reason to have it not count as a death considering it counts as a kill for that person.

Would kills for the player only count if the person bled out? This would mean that a needle would prevent a statistic for the other guy. Since WP effectively means SP, that would mean that a needle would also slow down someone from capping out. If kills still counted, then why wouldn't deaths count?

I don't know if changing the needle to not count as a death would necessarily change people's behaviors about bleeding out. If you are in a Prototype suit, you are most likely in a squad and are going to wait for a needle if only because losing more than one suit would put you in the Red for that battle. Why do I generally bleed out and respawn? Because it allows me to change my fittings and doesn't waste time in the event that I am brought back with 15% HP and immediately killed again. If it didn't count as a death, I still wouldn't care because I would rather of just come back with a new fitting if the scenario called for it with full life, ammo, and choosing where I can spawn. With how fast spawn pads can be, I could spend more time waiting for a revive than just choosing to spawn.

Honestly, with Spawn Pads being increased in length of spawn time, I could see needles becoming more like the scenario you wanted simply because waiting 5 seconds for a needle would be faster than trying to spawn at an uplink.

No you should still get a "death" on your scoreboard cause you have beeing outplayed by a other player. The revive is just a 2nd chance not a "i can get shot 30 times but have no death".

I've read everything in this thread. BF does x y z. But this isn't BF. I'm not focused on KDR, but what you are saying only effects KDR. The ability to deny a res, however, would be great, and fairly simple to implement I would imagine.

Some have 1,000
I'll shoot them for days waiting for a red crosshair...

Headshots dont terminate clones fyi

GO BACK TO COD/KZ/BF where KDR actually matters...