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Aeon Amadi
Edimmu Warfighters
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.03.08 09:28:00 -
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http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/65845/1/5.png
(RPM / 60) x (Damage) = DPS
GEK-38 Assault Rifle:
-----> 12.5 * 31.5 = 393.75
BK-42 Assault Combat Rifle:
-----> 20 * 20 = 400
Duvolle Assault Rifle:
-----> 12.5 * 33 = 412.5
Six Kin Assault Combat Rifle:
-----> 20 * 21 = 420
What is the Assault Rifle getting that makes it usable, let alone worthwhile..?
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
4946
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Posted - 2014.03.08 09:30:00 -
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Does CCP really even need a reason?
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darkiller240
WarRavens
League of Infamy
534
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Posted - 2014.03.08 09:38:00 -
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Recoil
"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
1991
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Posted - 2014.03.08 09:42:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Does CCP really even need a reason?
All I do is ruin every gun you spec.
I don't need a reason.
Assault ak.0 w/ScR+ScP 4LYFE
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Aeon Amadi
Edimmu Warfighters
Gallente Federation
5160
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Posted - 2014.03.08 10:02:00 -
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darkiller240 wrote:Recoil
And the Assault Scrambler Rifle is absolved, despite not having any muzzle climb at all O.o?
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Varoth Drac
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.03.08 10:11:00 -
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Probably because increased ttk will reduce the effectiveness of the ACR compared to the AR due to the small clip size, thus balance (maybe).
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
General Tso's Alliance
7207
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Posted - 2014.03.08 10:13:00 -
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Varoth Drac wrote:Probably because increased ttk will reduce the effectiveness of the ACR compared to the AR due to the small clip size, thus balance (maybe).
No idea about the AScR.
But should be more than made up for by:
The reduced CPU/PG requirements
Increased range
Tighter hipfire
Better hipfire (high fire rate weapons hip fire better)
Faster reload
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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Aeon Amadi
Edimmu Warfighters
Gallente Federation
5160
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Posted - 2014.03.08 10:23:00 -
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Varoth Drac wrote:Probably because increased ttk will reduce the effectiveness of the ACR compared to the AR due to the small clip size, thus balance (maybe).
No idea about the AScR.
Food for thought, level 5 Minmatar Assault will have an 85 round magazine on the Assault Combat Rifle.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
General Tso's Alliance
7207
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Posted - 2014.03.08 10:40:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Varoth Drac wrote:Probably because increased ttk will reduce the effectiveness of the ACR compared to the AR due to the small clip size, thus balance (maybe).
No idea about the AScR. Food for thought, level 5 Minmatar Assault will have an 85 round magazine on the Assault Combat Rifle.
But the level 5 Gallente Assault will have!... Slightly tighter hipfire?
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
1746
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Posted - 2014.03.08 11:05:00 -
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I hope they have buffed the AR rof, but if they don't show nothing probably it's the same -_-
1.8 it's so secret that nobody know what will be in it, even after patch notes...
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Sgt Buttscratch
KILL-EM-QUICK
1943
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Posted - 2014.03.08 14:07:00 -
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The reason comes down to the fact that CCP do not undersatnd competitive FPS, nor do they test anything in competitive environments.
That is why the shotgun only hits within half of the given reticle, thats why snipers damage is terrible, scouts take A LOT more fall damage than any other class, heavies have equal turn speed to scouts and on and on and on.
CCP need a test server that allows players toplay on the "other contracts" area that lets us test their changes, we are better at testing than they are, hence the fact thats all that has even been done by us since closed beta.
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Vapor Forseti
THE-TITANS
167
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Posted - 2014.03.08 14:10:00 -
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They can still redeem themselves. They can conjure up the AAR (Assault Assault Rifle) that can truly out-DPS the ACR.
But seriously though, did CCP really have to go and beat down a dead horse even more? 
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Aeon Amadi
Edimmu Warfighters
Gallente Federation
5164
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Posted - 2014.03.08 19:21:00 -
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Vapor Forseti wrote:They can still redeem themselves. They can conjure up the AAR (Assault Assault Rifle) that can truly out-DPS the ACR. But seriously though, did CCP really have to go and beat down a dead horse even more?
Boy that'd be the day. When the weapon itself is over-powered BY ITSELF due to power creep.
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Awry Barux
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
1519
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Posted - 2014.03.08 19:26:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/65845/1/5.png
(RPM / 60) x (Damage) = DPS
GEK-38 Assault Rifle:
-----> 12.5 * 31.5 = 393.75
BK-42 Assault Combat Rifle:
-----> 20 * 20 = 400
Duvolle Assault Rifle:
-----> 12.5 * 33 = 412.5
Six Kin Assault Combat Rifle:
-----> 20 * 21 = 420
What is the Assault Rifle getting that makes it usable, let alone worthwhile..?
Much more damage per clip. BK-42 ACR = 1360 damage per clip. GEK = 1890 damage per clip. That's the difference between consistently killing a Sentinel in one clip and not.
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Aeon Amadi
Edimmu Warfighters
Gallente Federation
5164
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Posted - 2014.03.08 19:34:00 -
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Awry Barux wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/65845/1/5.png
(RPM / 60) x (Damage) = DPS
GEK-38 Assault Rifle:
-----> 12.5 * 31.5 = 393.75
BK-42 Assault Combat Rifle:
-----> 20 * 20 = 400
Duvolle Assault Rifle:
-----> 12.5 * 33 = 412.5
Six Kin Assault Combat Rifle:
-----> 20 * 21 = 420
What is the Assault Rifle getting that makes it usable, let alone worthwhile..? Much more damage per clip. BK-42 ACR = 1360 damage per clip. GEK = 1890 damage per clip. That's the difference between consistently killing a Sentinel in one clip and not.
Whereas an HMG has a much higher DPS than either of them, and the consideration (as mentioned above) that a Minmatar Assault can potentially have an 85 round magazine bringing it's damage per clip to 1,700. I'm sorry but having more damage per magazine in the clip is sort of offset as well by the fact that the Assault Scrambler Rifle has a damage per clip of 2,457.
EDIT: Oh look at that the ASCR has a DPS of 401.48, higher than the AR and the ACR... Great...
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