DUST Search - Combat rifle still insanely OP

stlcarlos989 wrote:

Crimson Cerberes wrote:

Jack McReady wrote:

Auris Lionesse wrote:

yes combat rifle is op, it sucks they had to nerf the rr when the combat rifle is the problem

not sure if troll or just scrub.

RR is currently the king of weapons. DPS on par with other rifles, highest range on big empty maps with chokes points with only few players.

SCR is on second place because it can do something other weapons cannot. a squad of SCR charged shots can instagib a handful of other suits in direct combat and you are suddenly at a big advantage before direct combat even started.

get gud then you can maybe get a gimplse at pro play on PC and you will see.

So thats why PC is dominated by combat rifles then eh?

Your posting is horrible and you should feel horrible.

Maybe because everyone Armor tanks and the CR does 110% damage vs Armor, If shield tanking was were it used to be before they increased aim assist and armor got double the HP and half the speed penalty the duvolle and SCR would be the weapon of choice.

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Crimson Cerberes Hammer Of Light Vanguard of the Phoenix 417	Posted - 2014.03.07 06:09:00 - [1] - Quote Even after the nerf, it will still be doing 20+% more DPS than the AR did pre-nerf. It will still be doing more damage per trigger pull than the ScR did pre-nerf. It will still be doing 700 + DPS no problem when maxed out. This weapon will still be omgwtf OP after the rifle nerf.
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 1966	Posted - 2014.03.07 06:12:00 - [2] - Quote Crimson Cerberes wrote: Even after the nerf, it will still be doing 20+% more DPS than the AR did pre-nerf. It will still be doing more damage per trigger pull than the ScR did pre-nerf. It will still be doing 700 + DPS no problem when maxed out. This weapon will still be omgwtf OP after the rifle nerf. RR and CR only got nerfed relative to non-rifle guns. Still gonna be boss. ScR bought a good one, though. Gonna need Amarr assault to be viable at high level play (where people have armour for dayzzz) MD/MSMG 514 Yes, my butt is aching. I'm going to the doctor soon; hopefully he can recommend a good anaesthetic.
Viktor Hadah Jr Critical-Impact 2931	Posted - 2014.03.07 06:13:00 - [3] - Quote And i still won't care and everyone will still cry about every little thing.... Templar BPO(250Mil) EVE Pilot I feed off your tears
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 1480	Posted - 2014.03.07 06:13:00 - [4] - Quote Probably. But remember: it lost 5 points of damage per shot. That's 15 less damage per burst. 15 seems like a lot. The assault variant might still be better than the normal one or the Plasma Rifle, though. WHEN THE HELL IS THE ASSAULT RIFLE GOING TO BE RENAMED?!
STEALTH HUNTER ZERO D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 140	Posted - 2014.03.07 06:17:00 - [5] - Quote There is something to consider though. With dmg mods being nerfed as well as the CR and RR proficiency being just to armor, people are going to run shields more often so it will take both of those weapons significantly longer to tear through your shield buffer.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 2585	Posted - 2014.03.07 06:23:00 - [6] - Quote Crimson Cerberes wrote: Even after the nerf, it will still be doing 20+% more DPS than the AR did pre-nerf. It will still be doing more damage per trigger pull than the ScR did pre-nerf. It will still be doing 700 + DPS no problem when maxed out. This weapon will still be omgwtf OP after the rifle nerf. How does CCP take you guys seriously? You want another nerf on top of all his other **** CCP did to damage? weRideNDie2getha since 2010 RND's recruitment official phrase
Auris Lionesse Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance 361	Posted - 2014.03.07 06:23:00 - [7] - Quote yes combat rifle is op, it sucks they had to nerf the rr when the combat rifle is the problem
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 3361	Posted - 2014.03.07 06:33:00 - [8] - Quote I want 1.8 to get here already so I can see the actual field test runs. I wonder how the community will respond and what they will specialize in next. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Are you OUKH?
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 827	Posted - 2014.03.07 06:58:00 - [9] - Quote Auris Lionesse wrote: yes combat rifle is op, it sucks they had to nerf the rr when the combat rifle is the problem facepalm they are both better than every other weapon. Lets not play the what I use is fine only other people's toys are OP game. Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 10612	Posted - 2014.03.07 07:14:00 - [10] - Quote Auris Lionesse wrote: yes combat rifle is op, it sucks they had to nerf the rr when the combat rifle is the problem The RR was overpowered as well. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.

Tectonic Fusion 1191	Posted - 2014.03.07 07:44:00 - [11] - Quote Auris Lionesse wrote: yes combat rifle is op, it sucks they had to nerf the rr when the combat rifle is the problem My scout suit (250ish ehp) dies in .0001 seconds to the rr... Solo Player Squad status: Locked
Happy Violentime OMFGZOMBIESRUN 247	Posted - 2014.03.07 08:35:00 - [12] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: Auris Lionesse wrote: yes combat rifle is op, it sucks they had to nerf the rr when the combat rifle is the problem My scout suit (250ish ehp) dies in .0001 seconds to the rr... My cal assault with 500+ shield dies to a scrambler in the same time. What's your point? With 250 EHP everything kills you quickly.
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 1141	Posted - 2014.03.07 08:41:00 - [13] - Quote Auris Lionesse wrote: yes combat rifle is op, it sucks they had to nerf the rr when the combat rifle is the problem not sure if troll or just scrub. RR is currently the king of weapons. DPS on par with other rifles, highest range on big empty maps with chokes points with only few players. SCR is on second place because it can do something other weapons cannot. a squad of SCR charged shots can instagib a handful of other suits in direct combat and you are suddenly at a big advantage before direct combat even started. get gud then you can maybe get a gimplse at pro play on PC and you will see.
Broonfondle Majikthies Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day 926	Posted - 2014.03.07 08:43:00 - [14] - Quote Try putting on more shields. I say wait till we see the new optimisation changes in action. Combined with the lack of incentive to stack complex damage mods. "...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
STEALTH HUNTER ZERO D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 140	Posted - 2014.03.07 08:43:00 - [15] - Quote Happy Violentime wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: Auris Lionesse wrote: yes combat rifle is op, it sucks they had to nerf the rr when the combat rifle is the problem My scout suit (250ish ehp) dies in .0001 seconds to the rr... My cal assault with 500+ shield dies to a scrambler in the same time. What's your point? With 250 EHP everything kills you quickly. What he means, the problem with RR against scouts is that your even screwed up close most of the time since it has so much dmg per shot that even if they miss a few it only takes landing 4 or 5 to kill most scouts.
Crimson Cerberes Hammer Of Light Vanguard of the Phoenix 418	Posted - 2014.03.07 08:49:00 - [16] - Quote Jack McReady wrote: Auris Lionesse wrote: yes combat rifle is op, it sucks they had to nerf the rr when the combat rifle is the problem not sure if troll or just scrub. RR is currently the king of weapons. DPS on par with other rifles, highest range on big empty maps with chokes points with only few players. SCR is on second place because it can do something other weapons cannot. a squad of SCR charged shots can instagib a handful of other suits in direct combat and you are suddenly at a big advantage before direct combat even started. get gud then you can maybe get a gimplse at pro play on PC and you will see. So thats why PC is dominated by combat rifles then eh? Your posting is horrible and you should feel horrible.
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 1141	Posted - 2014.03.07 08:50:00 - [17] - Quote Crimson Cerberes wrote: Jack McReady wrote: Auris Lionesse wrote: yes combat rifle is op, it sucks they had to nerf the rr when the combat rifle is the problem not sure if troll or just scrub. RR is currently the king of weapons. DPS on par with other rifles, highest range on big empty maps with chokes points with only few players. SCR is on second place because it can do something other weapons cannot. a squad of SCR charged shots can instagib a handful of other suits in direct combat and you are suddenly at a big advantage before direct combat even started. get gud then you can maybe get a gimplse at pro play on PC and you will see. So thats why PC is dominated by combat rifles then eh? so you never seen PC?
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 3362	Posted - 2014.03.07 08:57:00 - [18] - Quote I look at it like this, if you're willing to call RR out for being "OP", then lets not stop there. Lets talk about the CR and the SCR. That's the problem I had with the "RR is OP" threads and posts. When I face CR and SCR, I know what I'm up against and have to eliminate any carelessness because one bad move or miscalculated step, I'm done. With the RR, because of how it fires and its rate, I have certain "breaks" that allow me to react better to a RR firing upon me than a CR. I know I must make sure my shots land true on a CR user. With a RR, I have some leeway. That's my deal about the situation. If you calling out RR, lets talk about the other two weapons that can have you in a very bad situation more so than the RR. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Are you OUKH?
DozersMouse XIII Ultramarine Corp 151	Posted - 2014.03.07 09:20:00 - [19] - Quote walks in and dips toast in tears Bacon pancakes makin' bacon pancakes Take some bacon and I'll put it a pancake Bacon pancakes thats what it's gonna make
STEALTH HUNTER ZERO D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 140	Posted - 2014.03.07 09:24:00 - [20] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: I look at it like this, if you're willing to call RR out for being "OP", then lets not stop there. Lets talk about the CR and the SCR. That's the problem I had with the "RR is OP" threads and posts. When I face CR and SCR, I know what I'm up against and have to eliminate any carelessness because one bad move or miscalculated step, I'm done. With the RR, because of how it fires and its rate, I have certain "breaks" that allow me to react better to a RR firing upon me than a CR. I know I must make sure my shots land true on a CR user. With a RR, I have some leeway. That's my deal about the situation. If you calling out RR, lets talk about the other two weapons that can have you in a very bad situation more so than the RR. Yep, they all deserve what they got and if some still need adjusting after 1.8 then lets wait til then to do it.

Jastad D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 592	Posted - 2014.03.07 09:25:00 - [21] - Quote Jack McReady wrote: Crimson Cerberes wrote: Jack McReady wrote: Auris Lionesse wrote: yes combat rifle is op, it sucks they had to nerf the rr when the combat rifle is the problem not sure if troll or just scrub. RR is currently the king of weapons. DPS on par with other rifles, highest range on big empty maps with chokes points with only few players. SCR is on second place because it can do something other weapons cannot. a squad of SCR charged shots can instagib a handful of other suits in direct combat and you are suddenly at a big advantage before direct combat even started. get gud then you can maybe get a gimplse at pro play on PC and you will see. So thats why PC is dominated by combat rifles then eh? so you never seen PC? Sorry but in PC the CR/ACR is dominant, RR are in few numbers and SCR even less. Proud HMG SiXKin User.
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 1141	Posted - 2014.03.07 09:30:00 - [22] - Quote Jastad wrote: Jack McReady wrote: Crimson Cerberes wrote: Jack McReady wrote: Auris Lionesse wrote: yes combat rifle is op, it sucks they had to nerf the rr when the combat rifle is the problem not sure if troll or just scrub. RR is currently the king of weapons. DPS on par with other rifles, highest range on big empty maps with chokes points with only few players. SCR is on second place because it can do something other weapons cannot. a squad of SCR charged shots can instagib a handful of other suits in direct combat and you are suddenly at a big advantage before direct combat even started. get gud then you can maybe get a gimplse at pro play on PC and you will see. So thats why PC is dominated by combat rifles then eh? so you never seen PC? Sorry but in PC the CR/ACR is dominant, RR are in few numbers and SCR even less. you would know better if the pros wouldnt lock their own districts
Jastad D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 594	Posted - 2014.03.07 11:04:00 - [23] - Quote @Jack McReady Sorry bro, i've faced many of the "PRO" and CR/ACR is still dominant. 3Mod CR/ACR melt heavy faster than any RR can do. Why? Simply 'cause RR is good in PUBS where you can "camp" 'cause you don't want to die. so you can stay far from you target and kill them, and have a good KDR In PC where win is a must CR/ACR is LOT LOT LOT better than any RR, for DMG dealt and for fitting cost. Many use RR in pubs, and keep the CR/ACR for pc. Proud HMG SiXKin User.
STEALTH HUNTER ZERO D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 140	Posted - 2014.03.07 11:09:00 - [24] - Quote Jastad wrote: @Jack McReady Sorry bro, i've faced many of the "PRO" and CR/ACR is still dominant. 3Mod CR/ACR melt heavy faster than any RR can do. Why? Simply 'cause RR is good in PUBS where you can "camp" 'cause you don't want to die. so you can stay far from you target and kill them, and have a good KDR In PC where win is a must CR/ACR is LOT LOT LOT better than any RR, for DMG dealt and for fitting cost. Many use RR in pubs, and keep the CR/ACR for pc. Idk Jastad, it's a mix of both in PC. City and cqc areas are places you'll find the most CR's, but open areas and Especially the bridge map on PC is where most run RR's. It doesn't matter, they are all getting toned down lets wait til after 1.8 to discuss what needs tweaking.
Jastad D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 595	Posted - 2014.03.07 11:13:00 - [25] - Quote STEALTH HUNTER ZERO wrote: Jastad wrote: @Jack McReady Sorry bro, i've faced many of the "PRO" and CR/ACR is still dominant. 3Mod CR/ACR melt heavy faster than any RR can do. Why? Simply 'cause RR is good in PUBS where you can "camp" 'cause you don't want to die. so you can stay far from you target and kill them, and have a good KDR In PC where win is a must CR/ACR is LOT LOT LOT better than any RR, for DMG dealt and for fitting cost. Many use RR in pubs, and keep the CR/ACR for pc. Idk Jastad, it's a mix of both in PC. City and cqc areas are places you'll find the most CR's, but open areas and Especially the bridge map on PC is where most run RR's. It doesn't matter, they are all getting toned down lets wait til after 1.8 to discuss what needs tweaking. Bro i remember all the PC we have done and on 16 people, 13/14 where running CR/ACR sure there are always 2/3 rail. We usually bring Godman with his laser. Didn't said there are ONLY CR/ACR, but they are dominant for sure. Amarr SCR user. Believe in the FORGE, young padawans C'èSoloDoloreSuCharlie
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 937	Posted - 2014.03.07 11:18:00 - [26] - Quote All four rifle variants have been OP Hopefully 1.8 will change some of this. Can you all save up the QQ for after We get to field test the weaponry Complaining that the CR has higher DPS is pointless It is a rifle variant of SMG, high DPS is what it does 'D1CK by name' 'D1CK by nature'
Kovinis Sparagas Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 160	Posted - 2014.03.07 11:52:00 - [27] - Quote Are you talking about combat rifle as a rifle, or as a group of rifles, because they are called assault rifles (not to be confused with the assault riffle) I support BPO removal; RDV to take your vehicles back; and racial weapons on starter fits
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 3365	Posted - 2014.03.07 11:55:00 - [28] - Quote Kovinis Sparagas wrote: Are you talking about combat rifle as a rifle, or as a group of rifles, because they are called assault rifles (not to be confused with the assault riffle) He is talking about the titles of weapons that CCP has granted these weapons Combat Rifle - Minmatar Assault Rifle - Gallente (seen on milita fits) Rail Rifle - Caldari Scrambler Rifle - Amarr Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Are you OUKH?
stlcarlos989 SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1216	Posted - 2014.03.07 13:13:00 - [29] - Quote Crimson Cerberes wrote: Jack McReady wrote: Auris Lionesse wrote: yes combat rifle is op, it sucks they had to nerf the rr when the combat rifle is the problem not sure if troll or just scrub. RR is currently the king of weapons. DPS on par with other rifles, highest range on big empty maps with chokes points with only few players. SCR is on second place because it can do something other weapons cannot. a squad of SCR charged shots can instagib a handful of other suits in direct combat and you are suddenly at a big advantage before direct combat even started. get gud then you can maybe get a gimplse at pro play on PC and you will see. So thats why PC is dominated by combat rifles then eh? Your posting is horrible and you should feel horrible. Maybe because everyone Armor tanks and the CR does 110% damage vs Armor, If shield tanking was were it used to be before they increased aim assist and armor got double the HP and half the speed penalty the duvolle and SCR would be the weapon of choice. STB Director, #1 in Warpoints E3 Closed Beta Build, Water Pipe Aficionado, Cannabis Sativa Connoisseur
Jastad D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 598	Posted - 2014.03.07 13:17:00 - [30] - Quote stlcarlos989 wrote: Crimson Cerberes wrote: Jack McReady wrote: Auris Lionesse wrote: yes combat rifle is op, it sucks they had to nerf the rr when the combat rifle is the problem not sure if troll or just scrub. RR is currently the king of weapons. DPS on par with other rifles, highest range on big empty maps with chokes points with only few players. SCR is on second place because it can do something other weapons cannot. a squad of SCR charged shots can instagib a handful of other suits in direct combat and you are suddenly at a big advantage before direct combat even started. get gud then you can maybe get a gimplse at pro play on PC and you will see. So thats why PC is dominated by combat rifles then eh? Your posting is horrible and you should feel horrible. Maybe because everyone Armor tanks and the CR does 110% damage vs Armor, If shield tanking was were it used to be before they increased aim assist and armor got double the HP and half the speed penalty the duvolle and SCR would be the weapon of choice. With a 5% of Penalty? CR will kill all even if people were shield tanking due to it low fitting cost. You know People are complaining 5% a DMG mod add to few of dmg but 5% of penalty is a BIG DEAL? Oh'really? Amarr SCR user. Believe in the FORGE, young padawans C'èSoloDoloreSuCharlie



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