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Posted - 2014.03.07 06:24:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Minmatar are typically more speed and damage based over everything else. Also the flexible part; slot wise we got room for a fifth race if ever brought up. your point is? I and others already mentioned it several times, after full fit you give up ~15% EHP for ~7% more speed compared to other sentinels. if you consider that a gallente sentinel with a kincat is as mobile as the minmatar full tank sentinel fit but the gallente will sill have more EHP with that kincat then you can clearly see that this isnt a fair tradeoff.
Exactly, sure our suits start off with some pretty good speed and stamina but the other sentinels can easily match that with a few modules. I'm starting to wonder if Minmatar sentinels are gonna be seen as rarely as the Minmatar assault is.
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Posted - 2014.03.07 06:33:00 -
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Auris Lionesse wrote:dont play as a rust bucket then.
come to one of the grown up races.
also as customary for any talk of the heavies i must reiterate my fervent desire to see the gallente heavy have SIX eyes.
not two, SIX.
That would matter if the number of eyes somehow affected how your character sees things through their helmet
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Posted - 2014.03.07 06:51:00 -
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Auris Lionesse wrote:da GAND wrote:Auris Lionesse wrote:dont play as a rust bucket then.
come to one of the grown up races.
also as customary for any talk of the heavies i must reiterate my fervent desire to see the gallente heavy have SIX eyes.
not two, SIX. That would matter if the number of eyes somehow affected how your character sees things through their helmet in gallente ships theyre several dual 3-3 designs, whether it be turret hardpoints or random shapes. dont see why it shouldnt be carried over, gallente care about aesthetics and i really care about aesthetics lol it... it just looks better.
Ya it does look interesting, anyway I may as well replace my Minmitar Assault suit with the Minmatar Sentinel or Commando.
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Posted - 2014.03.07 15:36:00 -
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D legendary hero wrote:Supernus Gigas wrote:The Minmatar Sentinel currently will have 435 Armor and 390 Shields for a total of 825 EHP. That makes it the lowest EHP Sentinel. Also, I thought the Minmatar were more shield based, why does the Minmatar Sentinel have more Armor than Shields then?
But wait! It can move faster than the others!
All the other Sentinels have a Walk Speed of 3.85m/s and a Sprint Speed of 5.39m/s(Walk Speed * 1.4 = Sprint Speed).
The Minmatar Sentinel will have a Walk Speed of 4.05m/s and a Sprint Speed of 5.67m/s.
That really doesn't seem like it makes up for it's lesser EHP.
You can pretty much get the same Sprint Speed as a Minmatar Sentinel in any other Sentinel suit with a basic KinCat and you'll also have more base EHP.
Hell, with the Gallente Sentinel you could slap on a Couple Complex KinCats and some Armor Reps, and you've got a fit that runs faster than a Minmatar Sentinel has great self repping capabilities and more EHP.
HELL! You could do this in an Amarr Sentinel! Two Complex KinCats and a Complex Armor Repper. 135 more EHP, Can run faster and have self armor repping.
The tiny extra speed the Minmatar Sentinel has really does not make up for having less EHP than the other Sentinels, not to mention the Gallente Sentinel and the Amarr Sentinel have the capability to run faster and survive longer.
Sure you could put two KinCats on the Minmatar Sentinel, but that's all your low slots, no room for anything else down there, no reppers, nothing.
I think giving the Minmatar Sentinel an extra low slot so it has an even slot layout of 3/3 would make up for the lesser EHP in my opinion.
It's just a bit sad that two other Sentinels can fill the speed tanking role better than the Minmatar Sentinel can.
EDIT: All this being said, it's not stopping me from going to Prototype Minmatar Sentinel as soon as I can. It's ability to fill a Melee Death Monster role is very appealing to me. I just feel that the Minmatar Sentinel just isn't in line with the others. thats why i made this thread because minmatar suits are too weak.
Thnx been looking for that thread for awhile, saw it not too long ago and couldn't find it again.
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Posted - 2014.03.08 17:07:00 -
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Nelo Angel0 wrote:Joel II X wrote:BAD FURRY wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Minmatar are typically more speed and damage based over everything else. Also the flexible part; slot wise we got room for a fifth race if ever brought up. Quote: Also the flexible part.  The Jove? 9999 HP? 20m/s speed? 0 delay recharge? +100% all dropsuit stats +100% all vehicle stats this bonus apllies to all races. SP to unlock ???,???,??? -trolol- . ther would only be one suit you can buy xD
Lol there are Jove ships in EVE but not sure how Jove suits would fit into this game.
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Posted - 2014.03.08 20:27:00 -
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Auris Lionesse wrote:Well there could be some society of conscious thought suits if you want Jove.
We still need the other npc suits, like soe, blood raiders, angel cartel, guristas, and serpentis
Probably many many years away from now, CCP just starting to get the major faction suits sorted out.
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Posted - 2014.03.08 20:48:00 -
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Supernus Gigas wrote:While Jovians are cool and all, this thread is discussing the Minmatar Sentinel. While I can't force you to stay on topic, if you don't; I will hunt you down in game and Melee you to death. I also greatly revised the OP to better get my point across.
You won't find me in game, I don't plan to be online for awhile. Maybe in a few weeks if 1.8 drops this month.
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Posted - 2014.03.08 22:33:00 -
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God Hates Lags wrote:That's not the worst of it. Proto assaults can easily fit in access of 900 health on their suits all while remaining comparatively faster. The most hp a min sentinel could reasonably expect to tank would be 900. This makes them both slower than an assault and weaker in terms of HP. If not for bonuses I'd say the min sentinel was straight up outclassed, but as it is the sentinel's resistances such to begin with.
 I didn't think about that lol, s*** Minmatar sentinel stats need to be changed or buffed up a bit
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