The Minmatar Sentinel currently will have 435 Armor and 390 Shields for a total of 825 EHP. That makes it the lowest EHP Sentinel. Also, I thought the Minmatar were more shield based, why does the Minmatar Sentinel have more Armor than Shields then?

But wait! It can move faster than the others!
All the other Sentinels have a Walk Speed of 3.85m/s and a Sprint Speed of 5.39m/s(Walk Speed * 1.4 = Sprint Speed).
The Minmatar Sentinel will have a Walk Speed of 4.05m/s and a Sprint Speed of 5.67m/s.
That really doesn't seem like it makes up for it's lesser EHP.

You can pretty much get the same Sprint Speed as a Minmatar Sentinel in any other Sentinel suit with a basic KinCat and you'll also have more base EHP.

Hell, with the Gallente Sentinel you could slap on a Couple Complex KinCats and some Armor Reps, and you've got a fit that runs faster than a Minmatar Sentinel has great self repping capabilities and more EHP.

HELL! You could do this in an Amarr Sentinel! Two Complex KinCats and a Complex Armor Repper. 135 more EHP, Can run faster and have self armor repping.

The tiny extra speed the Minmatar Sentinel has really does not make up for having less EHP than the other Sentinels, not to mention the Gallente Sentinel and the Amarr Sentinel have the capability to run faster and survive longer.

Sure you could put two KinCats on the Minmatar Sentinel, but that's all your low slots, no room for anything else down there, no reppers, nothing.

I think giving the Minmatar Sentinel an extra low slot so it has an even slot layout of 3/3 would make up for the lesser EHP in my opinion.

It's just a bit sad that two other Sentinels can fill the speed tanking role better than the Minmatar Sentinel can.

EDIT: All this being said, it's not stopping me from going to Prototype Minmatar Sentinel as soon as I can. It's ability to fill a Melee Death Monster role is very appealing to me. I just feel that the Minmatar Sentinel just isn't in line with the others.

minmatar are also, know in eve for having the best recovery stts shield wise and armor wise second only to galente.
Also, in eve minmatar ships vastly out pace all other races especially amarr.


but in dust, minmatar have the worst shield regen, no armor regen, and marginally higher speed.

in short, there is no excuse to justify such horrible stats and simply say speed.
thats like being desparately poor, and in debt and someone gives you a part-time job at mcdonalds, then tells you "now you have a job, you should be able to get food, for your family a house and a mercedez benz"...wtf

lowest base ehp.

1.6 made speed tanking worthless, and remember speed =/=ehp.

you cannot compare ehp to speed. they are too different atributes.



compare ehp to recovy because they are related. people with high ehp should have low recovery, and people with low ehp should have high recovery.

since minmatar have low ehp why is it that they have the worst recovery? they need a shorter shield delay, higher shield recharge rate and passive armor reps, albeit lower than galente. because their ehp is too low, and their "speed" doesn't help them disengage from combat fast enough to survive.


remember, ehp should be balanced against recovery
speed should be balanced against stamina

amarr have the highest stamina,
minmatar have the highest speed.

amarr are supposed ot have thhe highest ehp, minmatar the highest recovery,


galente and caldari are supposed to fall between these. but right now, its completely off.

Greatly increased is an exaggeration. It's worth a Complex KinCat? Bullshit, it's worth a Basic KinCat which already gives a nearly unnoticeable speed increase. That ~5% bonus to movement speed is paltry, and in no way makes up for the lesser eHP. Me being able to walk 5% faster is not going to help me out play any other Sentinel. Meanwhile both Amarr and Gallente can fill the speed Sentinel role better than the Minmatar can. The Minmatar Sentinel can be outclassed at it's own supposed specialty by the Amarr, the big, bulky armor taking Amarr. The Minmatar Sentinel is a joke, sadly.

It can walk ~5% faster while sacrificing ~11% eHP compared to Caldari and Gallente(the gap between Minmatar and Amarr is even wider, ~16%). Sure, KinCats give it a slightly larger bonus due to the higher base speed, but you only have two low slots.

One KinCat and an Armor Rep?
A Gallente can fit two KinCats and two Armor Reps. It can run faster, self heal, and has more eHP.

Use two KinCats? Well there goes all your low slots, but now you can run faster than that Gallente!
But, oh wait, the Gallente could run three KinCats and still have room for an Armor Rep. Again, it runs faster, has self healing and more eHP.

The Minmatar Sentinel all around sucks compared to the others, I just want it to be useful. Give it a third low slot, then it'll probably suck less, I might even go so far as to say it could actually be decent!

First off, why are you insulting me? You can disprove my math without being a hostile jack-wagon.

Secondly, here's some math(no module bonuses or biotics skill bonus, the results will still be relative without them).

Minmatar Sentinel Sprintiness: 5.67 * 1.2999(Two Complex KinCats with Stacking Penalties) = 7.37 m/s

Ammar Sentinel Sprintiness : 5.39 * 1.4112(Three Complex KinCats with Stacking Penalties) = 7.61 m/s

With three Complex KinCats the Ammar Sentinel can indeed sprint faster than the Minmatar Sentinel.

Let's make two fits, a speedy Amarr Sentinel with as much eHP as possible and a speedy Minmatar with as much eHP as possible. No skill bonuses will be applied and I will be using the Prototype tier suits.

Amarr Sentinel ak.0
Three Complex KinCats
Two Complex Shield Extenders

Sprint Speed: 7.61 m/s
eHP: 1092

Minmatar Sentinel mk.0
Two Complex KinCats
Three Complex Shield Extenders

Sprint Speed: 7.37 m/s
eHP: 1023

The Amarr Sentinel can do what the Minmatar Sentinel can do, but better. Albeit only slightly. If I am wrong, please offer your rebuttal without being a jack-wagon. Thank you.

Wow, I just realized that the Amarr Sentinel's base walk speed is 3.65, NOT 3.85. Way to go CCP, your sixes look like eights.

That being said, you are an ******* Crimson. Instead of pointing out that I was mistaken, you call me r.etarded and tell me I'm lying. What the hell is wrong with you?

EDIT: By the way, you clearly have no idea how stacking penalties work.

He's a bad player, has an entitlement complex the size of the Emperor Ship,and is also a dickhead.

You should see some of the arguments the tanking community had with him

EDITed to fix my quote.