DUST Search - Message To The DUST 514 Conventional Rifle Users

Atiim wrote:

Delta 749 wrote:

Theres a difference between being decent all around but overshadowed by niche weapons and having what was decent all around beaten with a stick so its crippled
Rather than nerfing them over and over they should have buffed those niche weapons to make them truly more effective in their niches
Im talking huge head shot bonuses on sniper rifles, back stab bonuses with knives, and so on

-Hand

The niche weapons (for the most part) were already effective in their niche.

I could buff Mass Drivers to where the Breach would 1HK you, but that still wouldn't change the fact that my Combat Rifle would wipe half your squad in one clip now would it?

I could buff Sniper Rifles to the point where the Tactical had the power of a Thale's, but that still wouldn't stop my Rail Rifle from being a Long Range Shotgun with the CQC effectiveness of an actual Shotgun now would it?

The Rifles had to be nerfed. When you have a plentiful source of weapons and the only ones people use are four of them, you know there's a problem with your game.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but CCP made the right swing with their nerfbat.


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Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 1925	Posted - 2014.03.07 02:26:00 - [1] - Quote Atiim wrote: Delta 749 wrote: Theres a difference between being decent all around but overshadowed by niche weapons and having what was decent all around beaten with a stick so its crippled Rather than nerfing them over and over they should have buffed those niche weapons to make them truly more effective in their niches Im talking huge head shot bonuses on sniper rifles, back stab bonuses with knives, and so on -Hand The niche weapons (for the most part) were already effective in their niche. I could buff Mass Drivers to where the Breach would 1HK you, but that still wouldn't change the fact that my Combat Rifle would wipe half your squad in one clip now would it? I could buff Sniper Rifles to the point where the Tactical had the power of a Thale's, but that still wouldn't stop my Rail Rifle from being a Long Range Shotgun with the CQC effectiveness of an actual Shotgun now would it? The Rifles had to be nerfed. When you have a plentiful source of weapons and the only ones people use are four of them, you know there's a problem with your game. I can't believe I'm saying this, but CCP made the right swing with their nerfbat. Perhaps. But again, It remains to be seen. I just hope they readjust the MagSec. Otherwise, I'm fine with the current, and new balance. RR's weren't all that much more powerful then the others, IMO. Were they superior? Yes, but not OP waffles Superior. Was the AR kinda useless? A little. But its not completely terribad. It was still a good gun. IDK. Maybe this was needed, but again, perhaps the niches needed to be niche. The MD needed to rock peoples camera like before, disorient them. The Shotty needed to recycle faster, and the breach shotty need a few more bullets. The NK needs a backstab bonus. The Sniper needs a huge headshot Multiplier. Those are necessary for niche weapons to be niche, and not "A rifle, only good in X range", which is a issue several weapons (Not the MD or Shotty, mind you,) suffered from. The lack of truly different things. The SR is really just was a really long range AR, with 3 shots a clip and a scope. It lacked a fundamentally different style. Just shoot the guys and kill them. Headshots are better, but your probably not going to need them. The NK are just REALLY short ranged ARs, that deal 600 damage in one hit, they lacked the different style, the sneaking style that the Spy's knife has is TF2. You could bumrush the guys with a NK or sneak and backstab, it makes no difference besides the obvious fact that your likely going to be blapped by them if you bumrush. I think both needed to be done. And they need to adjust the MagSec. Badly... But besides the point. Because you Wanted to be Something your Not.