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Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 5361	Posted - 2014.03.06 19:21:00 - [1] - Quote I see a lot of you guys going around saying things such as "my rifle sucks, kitten this crap I quit" or "now it's gonna take forever to kill something" and "now our rifles are gonna suck" Have you ever stopped and thought about something? Perhaps the rifles aren't supposed to be as good as the niche weapons, so that people are encouraged to used them. Perhaps CCP intended this game to be unique, as opposed to simply a COD remake where all you see are rifles with different skins on them. Perhaps your rifles are being balanced around the amount of skill they require. Sure your Rail Rifle may not be the king of long range combat, but how about the Laser Rifle? And your Combat Rifle may not shred through armor like it used to, but why not try the Mass Driver? Please stop being so self-entitled. Your rifles weren't meant to be "the best around." They are "Jack of All Trades, Master of None" weapons. -HAND lolPLC [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 5365	Posted - 2014.03.06 19:31:00 - [2] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: Theres a difference between being decent all around but overshadowed by niche weapons and having what was decent all around beaten with a stick so its crippled Rather than nerfing them over and over they should have buffed those niche weapons to make them truly more effective in their niches Im talking huge head shot bonuses on sniper rifles, back stab bonuses with knives, and so on -Hand The niche weapons (for the most part) were already effective in their niche. I could buff Mass Drivers to where the Breach would 1HK you, but that still wouldn't change the fact that my Combat Rifle would wipe half your squad in one clip now would it? I could buff Sniper Rifles to the point where the Tactical had the power of a Thale's, but that still wouldn't stop my Rail Rifle from being a Long Range Shotgun with the CQC effectiveness of an actual Shotgun now would it? The Rifles had to be nerfed. When you have a plentiful source of weapons and the only ones people use are four of them, you know there's a problem with your game. I can't believe I'm saying this, but CCP made the right swing with their nerfbat. lolPLC [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 5365	Posted - 2014.03.06 19:33:00 - [3] - Quote Dauth Jenkins wrote: +1, try using a difficult weapon, and when you go back to the rifle, it's easy mode. Ion cannon 1.8! I wish my Scout could use 80GJ Turrets. Ion Pistols? For sure. Ion Cannons? Far too heavy. lolPLC [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 5371	Posted - 2014.03.06 19:44:00 - [4] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: Atiim using logic?!? faints P.S. - My Scrambler better still OHK just about everything P.P.S - Amarr > you P.P.P.S - #rollingold #Amarrch I'm going to make a nerf SCR thread once 1.8 drops, regardless of how UP or OP is is just so I can troll you :3 lolPLC [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 5372	Posted - 2014.03.06 19:51:00 - [5] - Quote knight of 6 wrote: you're a scout now? is this how other people feel when you suddenly "become" a class that they spent months leaning? it hurts right here *points at upper chest on a more serious note I agree with OP. CCP has a tendency to over buff and over nerf though, so only time will tell if the changes to ARs are justified. Actually, I'm an Omni-Soldier. I'm no more a Scout than I am a Logi, Assualt, Commando, Sentinel, Sniper, Tanker, or AVer Though if we want to break things down further, I'm not even a scout. I'm a Light Frame. lolPLC [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 5385	Posted - 2014.03.07 00:47:00 - [6] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: You are talking straight power buffs while Im talking situational ones that are geared to a weapons niche, big difference there The rifles really really didnt need to be nerfed, hell the point of an assault rifle type weapon is to be widely used by an army since it can cover multiple roles well and let a soldier adapt to multiple situations without having to carry more gear/swap out gear all the time Your argument is like asking a real world army why they dont have more guys using pistols shotguns and sniper rifles rather than a M4 or what have you Wouldn't change anything. If I were to give the Mass Driver a smokescreen effect that lasted on the screen for 3/4/5s (STD/ADV/PRO), would it change the fact that my Combat Rifle can near insta-kill anything that's not a Heavy? If I were to give the Sniper Rifle a tagging ability, would it change the fact that my Rail Rifle has is practically a Fully-Automatic Sniper Rifle // Shotgun hybrid? Even in there own respective sense, the rifles were OP. Imagine something with the ganking power of a CreoDron Shotgun, a 40-70m range, and a 40-70 round magazine. How balanced does that sound to you? This is New Eden. In New Eden, you must sacrifice one thing for another. Anything that's "Jack of All Trades" is considerably worse, or contains numerous drawbacks that bring them in-line with the other options. Name one major, long term drawback that *any* of the rifles have that would make running another weapon class favorable? This isn't real life, so your final point is flawed. DUST 514 is designed to be a unique, Sci-Fi FPS/MMO. It wasn't designed as a Call of Duty clone. There needs to be more that 4 weapons that are actually worth using, and you need to be able to last more than 1-2s on the battlefield. lolPLC [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 5399	Posted - 2014.03.07 14:49:00 - [7] - Quote Lanius Pulvis wrote: Well...(sigh)...I ag(cough)...I agr(choke)...damnit, I AGREE with Atiim... That felt horrible, please don't talk sense again anytime soon. I'll try my hardest :P lolPLC [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND

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