DUST Search - What does the CPM actually do for the community?

Iron Wolf Saber wrote:

Unfortunately all NDA stuff still.

But to help out CPM 0 has been doing this mostly

CPM White Papers wrote:

CPM OPERATION AND FUNCTION
The CPM is responsible for 3 major roles within the DUST 514 development process:

a. Input into High Level Planning and Roadmaps:

The CPM will be involved in high level planning and have input into potential release roadmaps for DUST
514. The CPM in particular will be invaluable in helping CCP target user GÇ£pain pointsGÇ¥ that will require
significant resources to alleviate. The CPM, as an external entity, will be able to provide a fresh
perspective on what can be done to improve the player experience in DUST 514. The infrequent nature
of this sort of planning necessitates that this will be a sporadic activity. When planning is set to occur the
CPM will meet with the Executive Producer and other relevant parties to determine the best method for
them to contribute to the process.

b. Feedback on Team Features:
As teams develop features for a release, they are highly encouraged to share gameplay relevant features
with the CPM (using the Private CPM/CCP Forum) to get early, focus-group style feedback. The CPM is
uniquely positioned to provide timely and concise feedback, while still understanding that the proposed
features may change entirely or be cut from a release. The CPM will typically deliver their feedback to
teams within 48 hours, and a continuing dialogue will help ensure that features are as polished and
GÇ£player-proofedGÇ¥ as possible.

c. Community Advocacy:
The CPM will have an ongoing role of collecting general feedback from the community and high profile
players. Their dual role as council members and players allows them a much greater ability to gather the
best opinions and ideas of the player base from sources beyond the official DUST 514 forum. Their
advocacy can take the form of official programs, analysis of the CPM council forums, and just general
player opinion picked up in the course of day-to-day play

And if you're wondering why most of the CPM has been quite lately is because of this.

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Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 5394	Posted - 2014.03.07 04:26:00 - [31] - Quote Scout Registry wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Nothing tbh It took them the best part of 10months to even get a voting system down and that was a priority tbh Now that there 1 and only job is done which happened to finish near fanfest it means we can get a new lot in who may actually do somthing but then again they may just be like CPM0 and deliver just that, 0 Members of CPM0 went to bat for Scouts; an act which won't be forgotten. Yes, but it was also the Secretary (IWS) who saved the scouts lolPLC [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 1927	Posted - 2014.03.07 04:30:00 - [32] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: Honestly I have one question to the CPM. To the CPM - Did you or did you not know about the upcoming changes to weapons / proficiency (1.8 stuff) etc in detail before the player base found out? If you did, then what the hell did you say to CCP , if anything? If you did not then what is the point of the CPM? lol Well, Whats wrong with the numbers? Only thing I see wrong is the MagSec, and the same lolAV issue. Plus, NDA. Because you Wanted to be Something your Not.
ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 364	Posted - 2014.03.07 04:57:00 - [33] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: Honestly I have one question to the CPM. To the CPM - Did you or did you not know about the upcoming changes to weapons / proficiency (1.8 stuff) etc in detail before the player base found out? If you did, then what the hell did you say to CCP , if anything? If you did not then what is the point of the CPM? lol Do you mean the change to proficiency only increasing on one damage type? Because, the community knew that was the direction CCP was planning on going, or at least I thought we all know that... for quite awhile in fact. xSivartx is my Heavy. There are many like him, but he is my own... So, other Logi's back off, those are my Warpoints!
Aaroniero d'Lioncourt 445	Posted - 2014.03.07 05:22:00 - [34] - Quote Looking what i've read here and throughout the year, it's safe to say that the Dust 514 community do think the CPM are useless. Since the CPM represents the community and our voice. Will you pass this message along to CCP then? #Dud514
Auris Lionesse Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance 361	Posted - 2014.03.07 05:57:00 - [35] - Quote David Spd wrote: Auris Lionesse wrote: Passing along the worst community ideas and opinions to Ccp. When Ccp asks should we make this more mmo like to reflect eves complexity and depth they say no the mouthbreathers want more twitch based lobby shooter. Funny, that is all consoles have ever been. You want good RPG inspired games go to the platform without thousands of limitations. CCP could have EASILY made an RPG heavy shooter on a platform that could have substantially supported it, but didn't. They somehow saw value in making a free to play game on a ten year old piece of hardware that was well established in lobby shooters. Don't blame "mouth-breathers" for playing the game; blame CCP for choosing them as their core audience. Ive been blaming them since i started posting here lol, listening to them has turned this game into pandora's box. years ago they had a good idea that theyre seemingly throwing away to cater to cod kittens, when theyve spent years doing what they do with eve and saying tough luck to anyone who didnt like it, its ludicrous they suddenly want to appeal to the legions of 14 yearolds who want to be l33t. ccp is good at mmos, they should be playing to their strengths, not dumbing the game down.
Rinzler XVIII Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 192	Posted - 2014.03.07 14:07:00 - [36] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Unfortunately all NDA stuff still. But to help out CPM 0 has been doing this mostly CPM White Papers wrote: CPM OPERATION AND FUNCTION The CPM is responsible for 3 major roles within the DUST 514 development process: a. Input into High Level Planning and Roadmaps: The CPM will be involved in high level planning and have input into potential release roadmaps for DUST 514. The CPM in particular will be invaluable in helping CCP target user GÇ£pain pointsGÇ¥ that will require significant resources to alleviate. The CPM, as an external entity, will be able to provide a fresh perspective on what can be done to improve the player experience in DUST 514. The infrequent nature of this sort of planning necessitates that this will be a sporadic activity. When planning is set to occur the CPM will meet with the Executive Producer and other relevant parties to determine the best method for them to contribute to the process. b. Feedback on Team Features: As teams develop features for a release, they are highly encouraged to share gameplay relevant features with the CPM (using the Private CPM/CCP Forum) to get early, focus-group style feedback. The CPM is uniquely positioned to provide timely and concise feedback, while still understanding that the proposed features may change entirely or be cut from a release. The CPM will typically deliver their feedback to teams within 48 hours, and a continuing dialogue will help ensure that features are as polished and GÇ£player-proofedGÇ¥ as possible. c. Community Advocacy: The CPM will have an ongoing role of collecting general feedback from the community and high profile players. Their dual role as council members and players allows them a much greater ability to gather the best opinions and ideas of the player base from sources beyond the official DUST 514 forum. Their advocacy can take the form of official programs, analysis of the CPM council forums, and just general player opinion picked up in the course of day-to-day play And if you're wondering why most of the CPM has been quite lately is because of this. A) We have no roadmap and CCP didn;t do most of the things on the last roadmap .. B) OP Weapons, failed vehicle balance, failed balance in general, bad maps, no development on NPE, no development on gamemodes,matchmaking, no fixes of current gamemodes eg PC District locking/FW LP rewards .. C) Seeing as there have been countless posts about the issues mentioned in point B yet they still haven't been adressed by CCP clearly indicates that the CPMs aren't grasping the opinions, thoughts, ideas of the community as a whole otherwise we wouldn't be in the situation we are in !! Actions speak louder than words so quite frankly I don;t give a rats arse about what you claim to have been doing behind the scenes as you have nothing to back up that you've actually been doing it. The current CPMs are just a bunch of yes men/women and your weakness is a key reason why this games development has been so slow and why there are alot of problems with it that should've been sorted months ago !!! I'm sick and tired of listening to your crap, if the NDA prevents you from giving any information whatsoever or even discussing potential changes with the community then .. get the NDA changed .. you need to start fighting for the community instead of brownosing CCP We need CPMS with balls who wont just pander to CCPs every whim liek the current CPM .. this is what happens when you have a body that isn;t elected .. your accountable to CCP and CCP alone and you cannot have a system like that in place when your supposed to be working on behalf of the players !!! Players should have the ability to remove CPMs who they believe aren;t doing a good job on their behalf that way CPM will always be looking to make sure that everything they do is generally wanted by the playerbase
Rinzler XVIII Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 192	Posted - 2014.03.07 14:09:00 - [37] - Quote Scout Registry wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Nothing tbh It took them the best part of 10months to even get a voting system down and that was a priority tbh Now that there 1 and only job is done which happened to finish near fanfest it means we can get a new lot in who may actually do somthing but then again they may just be like CPM0 and deliver just that, 0 Members of CPM0 went to bat for Scouts; an act which won't be forgotten. How long have scouts been UP for now ? How long have CPMs been in their positions ? And your seriously praising them for finally getting round to fixing something that was clearly broken ? LMAO
John Psi Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance 409	Posted - 2014.03.07 14:15:00 - [38] - Quote BAD FURRY wrote: you could have saved alot of us from have to read all that and just tell us " think of CCP as Russia at the Olympics and the CPM as the bear " loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool ))))))))))))))))))))))) ...sorry for bad English =)
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 1627	Posted - 2014.03.07 14:23:00 - [39] - Quote THE JEDI COUNCIL HAS DONE MUCH OF WHAT MANY JUST HAVE NOT SEEN! For they follow the true path. just like jacen solo. A great jedi. The path dude you didn't read the rest of the books about jacen... what do you mean? sorry dude shut up.
One Eyed King Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 477	Posted - 2014.03.07 21:21:00 - [40] - Quote Rinzler XVIII wrote: Scout Registry wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Nothing tbh It took them the best part of 10months to even get a voting system down and that was a priority tbh Now that there 1 and only job is done which happened to finish near fanfest it means we can get a new lot in who may actually do somthing but then again they may just be like CPM0 and deliver just that, 0 Members of CPM0 went to bat for Scouts; an act which won't be forgotten. How long have scouts been UP for now ? How long have CPMs been in their positions ? And your seriously praising them for finally getting round to fixing something that was clearly broken ? LMAO If not for IWS, we could easily have been looking at scouts without a grenade slot, or only 1 eq slot. You can't blame the CPM for all CCPs decisions. They give us a voice, but they are not in charge. Looking for the scout hangout?

Varoth Drac The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 17	Posted - 2014.03.07 22:40:00 - [41] - Quote Well today I joined Jenza's squad, her having just returned from a CCP meeting. She was very positive about upcoming additions to the game, though obviously couldn't give details. We chatted a bit about various issues/state of the game (Jenza proved that proto swarms still work!) and she mentioned the Valkyrie meet-up going on tonight, though sadly I can't attend. It was a fun few games and it does feel like there is somewhat of a link between CCP and players via the CPM. Hopefully I will get to squad up with the CMP again sometime. I know this isn't really much of an indication of what the CPM does, but somewhat relevant.
Buster Friently Rosen Association 1999	Posted - 2014.03.07 23:32:00 - [42] - Quote Varoth Drac wrote: Well today I joined Jenza's squad, her having just returned from a CCP meeting. She was very positive about upcoming additions to the game, though obviously couldn't give details. We chatted a bit about various issues/state of the game (Jenza proved that proto swarms still work!) and she mentioned the Valkyrie meet-up going on tonight, though sadly I can't attend. It was a fun few games and it does feel like there is somewhat of a link between CCP and players via the CPM. Hopefully I will get to squad up with the CMP again sometime. I know this isn't really much of an indication of what the CPM does, but somewhat relevant. So you're saying the CPM does the same thing as CCP - promise the sky and deliver warmed over derivative work?
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 299	Posted - 2014.03.07 23:36:00 - [43] - Quote I saw many horizonts on this game, but its still long away XD Support - Tactician/Support Deteis - Orator BHD since MAG


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