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Yoshi tauro Maphia Clan Corporation 1	Posted - 2014.03.06 15:27:00 - [1] - Quote because a logi should have a higher "scan distance" an assault?
Bojo The Mighty L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 3404	Posted - 2014.03.06 15:29:00 - [2] - Quote And? They've had a lower precision than assaults all this time and you choose just now to complain about scan features. It only makes sense to give Logis the better range while they're at it. I tried Redline Railgunning
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 3129	Posted - 2014.03.06 15:42:00 - [3] - Quote Scanning is a support role. Scouts and Logistics are there to tell the grunts where to point their big guns. // Lance Commander // Matari Logistics / Scout / Pilot // @ReesNoturana
Buster Friently Rosen Association 1912	Posted - 2014.03.06 15:53:00 - [4] - Quote Yoshi tauro wrote: why a logi should have a higher "scan distance" an assault? Yes, they're logistics. They should be more about additional capabilities than pure combat. I get the distinct impression that people (who play assault) seem to think that assault=better than everything else or it's not balanced.
Beren Hurin Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 2138	Posted - 2014.03.06 15:59:00 - [5] - Quote Yoshi tauro wrote: why a logi should have a higher "scan distance" an assault? Because if they choose to play off this strength rather than brick tank you can get squishy logis running around staying behind cover detecting stuff at 65m at <35 dB. In addition they could hack points more quickly than assaults and have equipment to back up a squad. A logi playing off these new strengths to support rather than be a brick slayer would be more of a contributor than a brickslayer logi.
Yoshi tauro Maphia Clan Corporation 1	Posted - 2014.03.06 16:37:00 - [6] - Quote from my point of view scout: long distance assalt: middle logi: low (use scanner equip)
Buster Friently Rosen Association 1912	Posted - 2014.03.06 16:43:00 - [7] - Quote Yoshi tauro wrote: from my point of view scout: long distance assalt: middle logi: low (use scanner equip) You have it almost right, except that it should be: scout: long distance logi: medium (support fit) assault: low (combat only fit)
Lucifalic Nos Nothi 380	Posted - 2014.03.06 16:49:00 - [8] - Quote Wow... Just when I thought scouts would have there role back they add this. With slot layout, massive CPU pg supplies, and reduction to equipment bonus and now an increased scan distance and precision. Once again a logi can do a scouts role better then a scout with way more hp. Only thing scouts have is a small base speed advantage and a sidearm. Here since Closed beta. Scout for life.
voidfaction Void of Faction 172	Posted - 2014.03.06 18:04:00 - [9] - Quote Lucifalic wrote: Wow... Just when I thought scouts would have there role back they add this. With slot layout, massive CPU pg supplies, and reduction to equipment bonus and now an increased scan distance and precision. Once again a logi can do a scouts role better then a scout with way more hp. Only thing scouts have is a small base speed advantage and a sidearm. I guess they will be taking the scout role from the scouts that don't use mods to enhance there bonuses. logi wont be close to my gallente scout range, dampening, cloak, and speed and have more ehp then me. If they have more hp then they will have to sacrifice more of what they are already lacking in comparison then i have. so they got better precison. they have always had the ability to have better precision than scouts. caldari scout will be the precision king in 1.8
Beren Hurin Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 2142	Posted - 2014.03.06 18:18:00 - [10] - Quote voidfaction wrote: Lucifalic wrote: Wow... Just when I thought scouts would have there role back they add this. With slot layout, massive CPU pg supplies, and reduction to equipment bonus and now an increased scan distance and precision. Once again a logi can do a scouts role better then a scout with way more hp. Only thing scouts have is a small base speed advantage and a sidearm. I guess they will be taking the scout role from the scouts that don't use mods to enhance there bonuses. logi wont be close to my gallente scout range, dampening, cloak, and speed and have more ehp then me. If they have more hp then they will have to sacrifice more of what they are already lacking in comparison then i have. so they got better precison. they have always had the ability to have better precision than scouts. caldari scout will be the precision king in 1.8 Yeah, max skills: Cal/Gal scout with 2 PRO scan amps = passive 75m, other scouts are 60m, logis are 45m.
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2544	Posted - 2014.03.06 18:20:00 - [11] - Quote I'm just happy that assaults got better scan stats in 1.8 "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Beren Hurin Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 2142	Posted - 2014.03.06 18:27:00 - [12] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: I'm just happy that assaults got better scan stats in 1.8 OOh i missed that. They go from 55 to 50 don't they.
voidfaction Void of Faction 172	Posted - 2014.03.06 18:29:00 - [13] - Quote Beren Hurin wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: I'm just happy that assaults got better scan stats in 1.8 OOh i missed that. They go from 55 to 50 don't they. I missed that too. [edit] I guess assaults are on there way to taking a scouts role too.
Sana Rayya WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 946	Posted - 2014.03.06 18:35:00 - [14] - Quote I pity any logi that tries to use passive scanning to any great extent in 1.8; they're an almost guaranteed OHK with my shotty if they do ;) Here's what scan precision/range will look like at proto if all slots are devoted to precision/range amps: Gal Scout - 26.77dB, 107.17m Amarr Scout - 26.77 dB, 85.73m Min Scout - 23.71dB, 76.05m Cal Scout - 16.78dB, 75.64m Gal Logi - 23.71dB, 67.37m Cal Logi - 21.9dB, 64.3m So while their precision can be on par with non-Caldari scouts, they don't have as much range nor do they have the innate dampening that scouts will have.
Beren Hurin Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 2142	Posted - 2014.03.06 18:36:00 - [15] - Quote voidfaction wrote: Beren Hurin wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: I'm just happy that assaults got better scan stats in 1.8 OOh i missed that. They go from 55 to 50 don't they. I missed that too. [edit] I guess assaults are on there way to taking a scouts role too. no-way. Look above to see how easy it is for scouts to have a huge scan range. Assaults start with half the range as scouts, so absolutely no. In terms of scanning assaults take a seat well behind logis.
voidfaction Void of Faction 172	Posted - 2014.03.06 18:40:00 - [16] - Quote Yoshi tauro wrote: why a logi should have a higher "scan distance" an assault? Maybe a logi needs to see threats from farther away before they run in to revive a downed team mate? maybe they need it to help watch there back while hacking objectives? maybe they need it because they are the ones healing the heavy and the heavy is blind? maybe they need it so they know when to drop hives for incoming attack? maybe they need it for placing uplinks away from the enemy but close enough to be useful?
voidfaction Void of Faction 172	Posted - 2014.03.06 18:47:00 - [17] - Quote Beren Hurin wrote: voidfaction wrote: Beren Hurin wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: I'm just happy that assaults got better scan stats in 1.8 OOh i missed that. They go from 55 to 50 don't they. I missed that too. [edit] I guess assaults are on there way to taking a scouts role too. no-way. Look above to see how easy it is for scouts to have a huge scan range. Assaults start with half the range as scouts, so absolutely no. In terms of scanning assaults take a seat well behind logis. sorry I didin't tag it as sarcasm. I have run gallente scout 99% of the time for over a year. I even posted above how logi is not going to be a better scout in 1.8 leading to the sarcastic comment.

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