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Crimson ShieId
Psygod9
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Posted - 2014.03.06 21:09:00 -
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It's actually not that hard to make a decent scout fitting with the new stats. Even the advanced minmatar scout can be made good, but you've got to have your core skills maxed out, and of course, one low slot will need to be given up for an enhanced powergrid upgrade, but other than that, I just used that fitting tool to make an advanced suit that's as good as my current proto suit (short of a kincat) and is almost half the cost. It is doable, you just have to sacrifice a single low slot and you're set. So yes, Nova Knives are going to be even more awesome than they are now, and scouts are going to be the bane of all things. 
Nova Knives are OP! Nerf em before you lose all your proto suits!
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Crimson ShieId
Psygod9
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Posted - 2014.03.06 22:51:00 -
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Gonna make this clear. I'm not disagreeing with you that the Minmatar scouts are a bit lower on the fitting range than the other suits. They could benefit from a small boost, as could any suit, but look at it this way. You're trying to fit everything. The scouts have, for a very long time, been very hard to fit without giving something up. That's the way they work. If you want to fit something, you might have to give something up, because if you can fit everything you could possibly want, the suit becomes a bit, well... too good. Caldari logi for an example.
Try this fit though, and keep in mind I just hit max skills for everything, so some of the numbers will likely be off for particular people...
1.8
Scout M/1 Series
2x Complex Shield Extenders
Complex Precision Enhancer
Complex Range Amplifier
Enhanced Profile Dampener
Combat Rifle
Ishukone Nova Knives
Ishukone Cloak Field
This fit will allow you to stay both under the radar of everything but Gallente logis with proto scanners while also taking full advantage of the Nova Knives. You won't be the most versatile suit on the battlefield, being regulated to pure anti-infantry, but you'll see your enemies before they can see you. The suit's estimated cost is only 56.995 ISK as well, so it's both effective and affordable.
Kinetic Catalyzers are good, but they're not required for a good scout. Speed won't matter if you're getting scanned. The suits can function quite well, even without the extra powergrid.
Nova Knives are OP! Nerf em before you lose all your proto suits!
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Crimson ShieId
Psygod9
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Posted - 2014.03.06 23:53:00 -
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*Shrugs* You could swap out one of the shield extenders for another precision enhancer and put a kinetic catalyzer in place of the dampener if you wanted, thus giving you the ability to add flux grenades as well. You get a bit more speed and less health, but I don't really see the need in most cases. The cloak helps with the scout's current biggest weakness, that being getting across large expanses without getting shot. Speed in smaller maps or areas with more confined spaces isn't as necessary, so you just use the scout according to its' strengths and avoid the weaknesses, or set the fit up differently to work with those weaknesses.
Quick question, well, two actually. One, do you have your proto scouts yet? And two, if not, are you just getting into scouts or planning on such for 1.8? Just curious. :)
Nova Knives are OP! Nerf em before you lose all your proto suits!
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Crimson ShieId
Psygod9
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Posted - 2014.03.07 01:38:00 -
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Ah, I see where you're coming from. Takes ages to get to proto level. I doubt CCP is going to buff the suits anymore than they already have though, they don't seem to be too good at just tweaking little things in suits to make them more viable. I'd honestly just recommend one of the other suits if they give respecs for dropsuit command and such. The Minmatars just likely aren't going to be your cup of tea if you only want to run advanced, most of the minmatar gear seems to be at this point, more of something you use because you like it, not because it's the best there is to offer.
I recommend looking up Cyrus Li Moody though, and perhaps Jolly Roger on youtube. They both run scouts (Cyrus runs primarily Minmatar while Jolly uses Gallente, both advanced in most games) and they use them to great effect. Running with two Kincats is good, but it's definitely not necessary in most cases. It can help, but that tiny speed buff isn't worth what you'll likely be giving up. Either way, give it a chance, see what kind of fits you can work with and perhaps you'll like the roll (Nova Knives are a blast once you get used to them) 
Oh, and if you don't want to get to proto on the suits, once the player market comes out, I know there will be a lot of Aurum proto suits on the market. You could save up some Isk and get those so you wouldn't need to invest in the final dropsuit levels.
Nova Knives are OP! Nerf em before you lose all your proto suits!
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Crimson ShieId
Psygod9
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Posted - 2014.03.07 03:30:00 -
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Well, either way, I wish you the best of luck with finding a good fitting. I really do recommend trying a passive scanning scout though. You'd be amazed how much it helps and you might just jump off the Kincat ship upon realizing such. ^_^
Nova Knives are OP! Nerf em before you lose all your proto suits!
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