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Tebu Gan
Dem Durrty Boyz
Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.04 19:52:00 -
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Awry Barux wrote:Tanks as they stand right now (anti-infantry, operable by a single merc) can never, ever be balanced in a pure TDM game mode. They fill the exact same role as an assault suit: roll around the map, gunning people down one at a time with an oversized AR. In a game mode with objectives inaccessible to tanks, their near-invincibility and 900 DPS AR turret can maybe be considered to be balanced and exist in a real separate role. But when the only goal is to kill X clones, the current style of tanks is always going to either be massively OP or paper-thin UP. As it stands right now, they're just a big suit I put on over my little suit with 10x the HP, 2x the damage, and 90% resist to most weapons on the field.
As an example: I just got out of an ambush where I spent a solid minute or two playing cat and mouse against a Soma, running in circles around pillars, etc. The fact that he was in a tank made it impossible for me to kill him. He simply chased me around and around searching for the kill, just like an assault player, because that's all tanks are good for.
Change their role or get them the hell out of ambush.
From a SP invested tanker:
Agreed, I've never thought that tanks really had a place in ambush to begin with. Especially now that it requires more than one AV to take one out.
Maybe on the bigger maps allow them, but not on the small ones. Hoping they will be fixing blasters, and milta tank spam fore long.
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Tebu Gan
Dem Durrty Boyz
Renegade Alliance
640
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Posted - 2014.03.04 20:01:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Awry Barux wrote:Tanks as they stand right now (anti-infantry, operable by a single merc) can never, ever be balanced in a pure TDM game mode. They fill the exact same role as an assault suit: roll around the map, gunning people down one at a time with an oversized AR. In a game mode with objectives inaccessible to tanks, their near-invincibility and 900 DPS AR turret can maybe be considered to be balanced and exist in a real separate role. But when the only goal is to kill X clones, the current style of tanks is always going to either be massively OP or paper-thin UP. As it stands right now, they're just a big suit I put on over my little suit with 10x the HP, 2x the damage, and 90% resist to most weapons on the field.
As an example: I just got out of an ambush where I spent a solid minute or two playing cat and mouse against a Soma, running in circles around pillars, etc. The fact that he was in a tank made it impossible for me to kill him. He simply chased me around and around searching for the kill, just like an assault player, because that's all tanks are good for.
Change their role or get them the hell out of ambush. Another one complaining about ambush. Why do you bother? Just go to Call of Duty already. They tried balancing tanks around ambush, and we still came out on top. The problem isn't with us, or the tank. It's with you, and your lack of a care to do anything against them.
MAN, I've seen a lot of "CRAP" from you. Have you ever tried to AV? Still blaming it on the AV when there are GLARING problems with tank and AV interaction.
I've been doing so with swarms and forge guns. Killed a few tanks on my own, MLT, and one gunnlogi with the help of another tank. Being that I understand tanks above and beyond most AV, I can safely say there are problems with the AV roles in relation to tanks.
The biggest problem with going the AV route, since tankers REQUIRE it take teamwork to kill them, are the rewards. The only way to gain WP is by actually KILLING the tank. Many times I was very discouraged from even attempting to mess with a tanks because I KNOW I won't be killing him. Why bother?
Go AV before you talk **** about how stupid they are, it's clear you have no idea what you are talking about.
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Tebu Gan
Dem Durrty Boyz
Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.04 20:02:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:And not only that, CCP already did their AV / vehicle balance pass, which infantry basically forced them to do. Why are you not happy with the work you forced CCP to do?
By your logic, TANKS are forcing CCP to do another vehicle/AV balance at this very moment.
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